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« on: March 03, 2013, 04:02:49 PM » |
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I know stingray, bobber, truebb93, shareef and myself are pretty active.
Anyone else? Curious.
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« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2013, 05:26:32 PM » |
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E-kul comes to mind.
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« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2013, 05:33:30 PM » |
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lol i didn't mean anti-muslim, there's plenty of those on here. Your name in Arabic means lion  |
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« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2013, 07:28:43 PM » |
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I know stingray, bobber, truebb93, shareef and myself are pretty active.
Anyone else? Curious.
on a bbing board? black muslims maybe, arabs have shitty bbing genetics. |
Allegedly.
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« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2013, 07:58:25 PM » |
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lol i didn't mean anti-muslim, there's plenty of those on here. Your name in Arabic means lion Yes, you probably know this because it was Caliph Ali's nickname because oh his exemplary courage and physical prowess. |
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« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2013, 09:18:47 PM » |
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Each baby born in essence is created muslim,
The Prophet (PBUH) reported that Allah said, "I created my servants in the right religion but devils made them go astray". The Prophet (PBUH) also said, "Each child is born in a state of "Fitrah", then his parents make him a Jew, Christian or a Zoroastrian, the way an animal gives birth to a normal offspring. Have you noticed any that were born mutilated?"
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« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2013, 01:18:52 AM » |
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Define 'Muslim.'
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« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2013, 02:49:48 AM » |
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Each baby born in essence is created muslim,
The Prophet (PBUH) reported that Allah said, "I created my servants in the right religion but devils made them go astray".
According the the West African religion of Ooga Booga Booga all people are born OogaBoogaBoogians. The grand Oogaboogaboogian said it and praise OggaBoogaBooga it be true! |
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« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2013, 09:22:39 AM » |
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Define 'Muslim.'
One who submits his will to God, accepts all the prophets and messengers of God and the final messenger Muhammad (peace be upon him). |
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« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2013, 08:21:49 PM » |
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Serious question, how do you look upon Sulieman the Magnificant? Is he canonized in your religion? I know that's not the term, but is he looked upon with reverence? How about Saladin?
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« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2013, 08:32:44 PM » |
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Serious question, how do you look upon Sulieman the Magnificant? Is he canonized in your religion? I know that's not the term, but is he looked upon with reverence? How about Saladin?
Do you mean prophet solomon? |
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« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2013, 08:48:50 PM » |
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I AM
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« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2013, 04:49:35 PM » |
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Yep, reverted to Islam about 3 years ago.
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« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2013, 05:51:02 PM » |
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Do you mean prophet solomon?
No, Ottoman ruler of the Osman dynasty. |
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« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2013, 02:15:45 AM » |
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One who submits his will to God, accepts all the prophets and messengers of God and the final messenger Muhammad (peace be upon him).
Since it is impossible to access a person's internal mental life directly, what external criteria do you use to determine whether someone has submitted his will or not? |
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« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2013, 10:07:30 AM » |
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Since it is impossible to access a person's internal mental life directly, what external criteria do you use to determine whether someone has submitted his will or not?
More recently, the use of MRI scans. Any frontal lobe activity is a sure sign that one has fallen into disbelief. I jest, i jest  |
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« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2013, 10:14:20 AM » |
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On a serious note, other than outright heresy and clear actions that indicate that one is not a follower of the religion there is / cannot be such an assessment. This is recognised in Islam, and in Sufi circles it is specially reinforced that external assessments of religiosity are flawed. There is a Mulla Nasrudin joke about this to the effect that his goat must be the most pious since it had the longest beard  |
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« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2013, 10:51:14 AM » |
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Since it is impossible to access a person's internal mental life directly, what external criteria do you use to determine whether someone has submitted his will or not?
In simple terms, it is the utterance and actions of one. However only God knows the true intentions and sincerity of people. We can only see the outwardly. Sufis go into mystical stuff and are deviated, going too far in their utterances of 'internal' matters. Some have good intentions. But from an orthodox perspective of islam, it is your speech AND actions while the internal is only known by God. |
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« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2013, 10:58:24 AM » |
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Some of the greatest exponents of Islam were Sufis or associated with Sufi Orders. These include Ghazali, Imam Hanafi, Ibn El Arabi, Ali Hujwiri, Jalaladin Rumi, Abdul Qadir Gilani, and more.
Just because there are cults, deviations, and other distortions doesn't mean the whole 'craft' so to speak is deviant. Remember Rumi's words "There is false gold only because there is such a thing as the Real..."
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« Reply #19 on: March 06, 2013, 03:50:42 PM » |
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Yep, reverted to Islam about 3 years ago.
mashAllah bro u got pm  Get back to me |
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« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2013, 08:32:37 AM » |
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If you could reason with a religious man.... there would be no religion.
I exist without the need for reassurance from an invisible man in the sky.
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