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Author Topic: Average age of Arnold Classic competitors (1996 vs 2013 )  (Read 930 times)
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« on: March 03, 2013, 10:39:33 PM »

What does this mean ?

1996 average =  29.5

1      Kevin Levrone , 27   
2   Flex Wheeler , 30   
3   Paul Dillett    , 30   
4   Vince Taylor,40   
5   Shawn Ray, 30
6   Andreas Munzer , 31      
7   Roland Cziurlok ,28      
8   Porter Cottrell , 33   
9   Jean Pierre Fux , 27   
10   Darrem Charles , 26   
11   Gunter Schlierkamp , 26   
12   Roland Kickinger , 27


2013 average = 39.5

1. Dexter Jackson , 43
2. Ben Pakulski , 31
3. Toney Freeman , 46
4. Johnnie Jackson , 42
5. Hidetada Yamagishi ,39
6. Cedric McMillan , 35
7. Fred Smalls , 38
8. Edward Nunn , 41
9. Darrem Charles, 43
10. Fouad Abiad , 34
11. Marcus Haley , 40
12. Michael Kefalianos ,42
13. Ronny Rockel , 40
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« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2013, 10:41:57 PM »

That extra 25 lb of muscle takes a good 6-7 years to mature.
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« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2013, 10:43:12 PM »

What does this mean ?

1996 average =  29.5

1      Kevin Levrone , 27   
2   Flex Wheeler , 30   
3   Paul Dillett    , 30   
4   Vince Taylor,40   
5   Shawn Ray, 30
6   Andreas Munzer , 31      
7   Roland Cziurlok ,28      
8   Porter Cottrell , 33   
9   Jean Pierre Fux , 27   
10   Darrem Charles , 26   
11   Gunter Schlierkamp , 26   
12   Roland Kickinger , 27


2013 average = 39.5

1. Dexter Jackson , 43
2. Ben Pakulski , 31
3. Toney Freeman , 46
4. Johnnie Jackson , 42
5. Hidetada Yamagishi ,39
6. Cedric McMillan , 35
7. Fred Smalls , 38
8. Edward Nunn , 41
9. Darrem Charles, 43
10. Fouad Abiad , 34
11. Marcus Haley , 40
12. Michael Kefalianos ,42
13. Ronny Rockel , 40

It means the youngsters don't want to step onstage. How many times have we seen the winners of the Nationals, the USA, or the North American take a eyar or two off, before actually stepping onstage?


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« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2013, 10:52:59 PM »

It means the youngsters don't want to step onstage. How many times have we seen the winners of the Nationals, the USA, or the North American take a eyar or two off, before actually stepping onstage?




Who  are these youngsters ?
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« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2013, 11:07:19 PM »

It means that young people today knows better than to waste money and health to become a pro bodybuilder
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« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2013, 01:23:27 AM »

What does this mean ?

1996 average =  29.5

1      Kevin Levrone , 27   
2   Flex Wheeler , 30   
3   Paul Dillett    , 30   
4   Vince Taylor,40   
5   Shawn Ray, 30
6   Andreas Munzer , 31      
7   Roland Cziurlok ,28      
8   Porter Cottrell , 33   
9   Jean Pierre Fux , 27   
10   Darrem Charles , 26   
11   Gunter Schlierkamp , 26   
12   Roland Kickinger , 27


2013 average = 39.5

1. Dexter Jackson , 43
2. Ben Pakulski , 31
3. Toney Freeman , 46
4. Johnnie Jackson , 42
5. Hidetada Yamagishi ,39
6. Cedric McMillan , 35
7. Fred Smalls , 38
8. Edward Nunn , 41
9. Darrem Charles, 43
10. Fouad Abiad , 34
11. Marcus Haley , 40
12. Michael Kefalianos ,42
13. Ronny Rockel , 40
better crop of pros in the 90's.
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« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2013, 03:30:47 AM »

It means that young people today knows better than to waste money and health to become a pro bodybuilder

This is true.

The IFBB have a clever marketing strategy for ensuring that the future growth of their sport is secure.

Apparently, their research told them that young men are inspired to develop bellies and pretend they are living the thug life.
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« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2013, 03:45:35 AM »

Interesting. Bodybuilding always had younger people in the past, I don't know why the old men are prevalent nowadays.

I bet the Olympia has similar statistics. I think it at least partly has something to do with the "pay your dues" mentality where young unknowns always gets shafted at their first try, no matter how good they look in favor for bodybuilders the judges know, like Warren Brunch.
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« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2013, 03:59:38 AM »

Levrone 27 in 96  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2013, 04:01:12 AM »

I would like to take a more cynical look and say, that pros in the 2000's have a better understanding of how to take drugs for more years without killing themselves.
Is this completely wrong?
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« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2013, 05:00:09 AM »

I would like to take a more cynical look and say, that pros in the 2000's have a better understanding of how to take drugs for more years without killing themselves.
Is this completely wrong?
well, no...it seems as though the ones competing today either started late, or didnt look good beforehand...remember there were several that won their Pro Cards on the first try, namely Richard Jones and Phil Heath, which of all the USA and Nats and North American winners from 2000-2012, looked the best. And that is saying something about the drugs, and genetic pool of the competitors.
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« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2013, 09:17:05 AM »

They are giving out more pro cards than ever, yet no young guys are competing.  They almost need an under 30 division.  It would help change the look of what's onstage closer what we use to see.  Getting more genetically gifted guys turning pro wouldn't hurt either. 
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« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2013, 09:21:24 AM »

That extra 25 lb of muscle takes a good 6-7 years to mature.

Yep... allowing 'the size game' to dominate everything means these new pros will place 14th if they enter.  So they dont bother.

ANd that goes down to the amateur ranks too... Rarely do we see a guy win his pro card at 21 anymore.  They're all 30 when they turn pro.
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« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2013, 09:23:53 AM »

Takes a long time to get that densely developed. The young guys all needed a "break". Please.
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« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2013, 09:26:49 AM »

Who  are these youngsters ?

McCarver, Kulco, Valliant, just to name a few.

As I said, the winners of the Nationals, North American, and the USA. (Valliant won the Canadian Nationals).

Evan Centopani (2007 National champion)took a year and half off, before competing as a pro.
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« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2013, 09:28:01 AM »

It means that young people today knows better than to waste money and health to become a pro bodybuilder

They weren't doing that, who won the Nationals, USA, or North American?
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« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2013, 09:54:15 AM »

... Getting more genetically gifted guys turning pro wouldn't hurt either. 

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