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Transgendered MMA fighter comes out
« on: March 06, 2013, 02:29:26 PM »

The GetBig Nation is rejoicing:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/06/fallon-fox-transgender-mma-fighter-_n_2819315.html

Mixed martial arts (MMA) fighter Fallon Fox opens up about being transgender in a new interview with Outsports' Cyd Zeigler, but admits she has some long-standing reservations about coming forward.

"For years I've known at some point it's very likely the shoe would drop," Fox is quoted in the interview as saying. "Maybe someone would guess that I'm trans. Maybe they would know me from my life before I transitioned. I've been waiting for that phone call to happen. And Saturday night, it happened."

Part of her reluctance to come out has had a lot to do with concerns over who she'll be perceived by her fellow athletes, saying that people have "seen me as a woman."

"I'm technically, legally, physically and mentally female. Everything about me is female," she says, before adding, "I happen to fall into the transgender category, but I rather describe myself as a woman first, transsexual woman second."

She tells Zeigler she underwent gender reassignment surgery (along with the supplemental hormonal therapy) six years ago, several years after her father -- who was convinced she was a confused gay man -- put her in conversion therapy where, she notes, she was treated by a reparative therapist who tried to convince her that she was, in fact, gay so that he could turn her into a heterosexual man.

As Sports Illustrated points out, Fox is currently scheduled to fight again for the Championship Fighting Alliance 10 in Coral Gables, Fla. on April 20, but her license approval is now under investigation with Florida's Dept. of Business and Professional Regulation now that she's come out as transgender.

Fox's revelation follows that of mixed martial artist Liz Carmouche, a former Marine who fought in the history-making, first female match-up of the Ultimate Fighting Championship on Feb. 23.

"It's going to be difficult for people to adjust at first, but that's change," Fox told HuffPost Gay Voices blogger Phillip B. Crook of the barriers to women and the LGBT community in both sports and the U.S. military.

In July 2012, Lana Wachowski ("The Matrix") became the first major Hollywood director to publicly come out as transgender while promoting "Cloud Atlas."


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Re: Transgendered MMA fighter comes out
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2013, 04:09:53 PM »
  NO Male should be allowed to fight a Female.

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Re: Transgendered MMA fighter comes out
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2013, 04:13:13 PM »
Pam Grier?

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Re: Transgendered MMA fighter comes out
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2013, 04:51:08 PM »
  NO Male should be allowed to fight a Female.

LOOKS MORE FEMALE THAN CYBORGNINE

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Re: Transgendered MMA fighter comes out
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2013, 05:46:50 PM »
this man will not fight again

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Re: Transgendered MMA fighter comes out
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2013, 08:47:48 PM »
So, the MAN became a WOMAN but chooses to be a fighter in the most masculine of pursuits.  That's a fucked up dude right there!
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« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2013, 08:53:15 PM »
  She looks like Jackie Brown   

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Re: Transgendered MMA fighter comes out
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2013, 09:23:54 PM »
So, the MAN became a WOMAN but chooses to be a fighter in the most masculine of pursuits.  That's a fucked up dude right there!

And dates a woman. Go figure.

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Re: Transgendered MMA fighter comes out
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2013, 09:36:16 PM »

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Re: Transgendered MMA fighter comes out
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2013, 09:50:55 PM »
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She tells Zeigler she underwent gender reassignment surgery (along with the supplemental hormonal therapy) six years ago, several years after her father -- who was convinced she was a confused gay man -- put her in conversion therapy where, she notes, she was treated by a reparative therapist who tried to convince her that she was, in fact, gay so that he could turn her into a heterosexual man.

Her father was definitely misguided.

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Re: Transgendered MMA fighter comes out
« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2013, 10:40:54 AM »

While I recognize her right to become and be a woman, I'm wrestling (no pun intended) with whether or not she ever should have fought in the women's division without first informing the fight commission that she is a genetic male. 

Moving forward, I would like to see her facing other genetic males in her weight class.  Or Ronda Rousey. 

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« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2013, 10:46:14 AM »
While I recognize her right to become and be a woman, I'm wrestling (no pun intended) with whether or not she ever should have fought in the women's division without first informing the fight commission that she is a genetic male. 

Moving forward, I would like to see her facing other genetic males in her weight class.  Or Ronda Rousey. 

Cristiane "guyborg" Santos is allowed to fight women. She's essentially transgender.
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Re: Transgendered MMA fighter comes out
« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2013, 10:58:54 AM »
  I don't care what people do to themselves to make them" happy " .. But sorry, if you are born a male then you are a male.. You can cut off parts and take hormones and call yourself a women if that makes you happy.. But you are a male in terms of actual gender.. She won't fight again.. I wouldnot blame other female fighters if they refused to fight her..

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Re: Transgendered MMA fighter comes out
« Reply #13 on: March 07, 2013, 01:54:47 PM »


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Re: Transgendered MMA fighter comes out
« Reply #14 on: March 07, 2013, 01:59:59 PM »

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Re: Transgendered MMA fighter comes out
« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2013, 02:06:52 PM »
  I don't care what people do to themselves to make them" happy " .. But sorry, if you are born a male then you are a male.. You can cut off parts and take hormones and call yourself a women if that makes you happy.. But you are a male in terms of actual gender.. She won't fight again.. I wouldnot blame other female fighters if they refused to fight her..


This is something I have a lot of trouble wrapping my head around. This is probably true for most of us who are fine with our birth gender. I watched a few documentaries about transgendered folks and read several books both autobiographical and fictional and yet I still just don't get it. The book Middlesex, a Pulitzer Prize-winning novel by Jeffrey Eugenides published in 2002 is very interesting with a similar subject in that the main character is a hermaphrodite. When all is said and done she/he decides against surgery which would require choosing one sex or the other.  

I imagine that this woman having been born a man has a distinct advantage when it comes to MMA fighting. I cannot imagine that most women would want to go up against her, unless they think they can prove something by doing it.

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Re: Transgendered MMA fighter comes out
« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2013, 05:01:35 PM »
Prime muscle .. I do agree.. I can't imagine what they are going through mentally.. When does one,who is gay, go to that next level and want to change their actual sex? Is this a mental disorder so to speak? I know one in my town who has had the "full Monty"in regards to the operation.. I was told by " her" that she always felt ha.t she was a women growing up.. But again, when does on cross over from just being gay to feeling that they are somehow in the wrong body sexually.? And again, is this a mental disorder ect.. May never know.. But I will say that frm the limited experience I have seeing this it appears that those i question do have "issues" that need to be resolved other than gender confusion..

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Re: Transgendered MMA fighter comes out
« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2013, 05:22:22 PM »
And dates a woman. Go figure.
A gay man (possibly) who believes that he is a woman (now is this person attracted to men?) becomes a woman and a MMA fighter, and now is a lesbian (attracted to women)?
So, would that mean that "he" was originally attracted to women in the first place, which means that he was really heterosexual?

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Re: Transgendered MMA fighter comes out
« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2013, 05:46:51 PM »
 I think he looks like Pam G.      groink and many others said that they love her    

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« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2013, 05:51:59 PM »
 I think he looks like Pam G.      groink and many others said that they love her    
70s vintage Pam Grier was, is the shit. Far, far better than Halle Berry.

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« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2013, 05:52:41 PM »
In her prime. Grier was a 10. Hell, she was bangable in Jackie Brown and she was in her 50s.
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« Reply #23 on: March 07, 2013, 06:15:29 PM »
In her prime. Grier was a 10. Hell, she was bangable in Jackie Brown and she was in her 50s.
back in the early 2000s, Pam's boyfriend ditched her for one of the Tenison Twins, who co-incidentally look like she used to look.

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