The ole "shredded david" v "permabulked goliath" debate......most of us know who won that battle.
Sure the perma is typically stronger than the shredder, but not always the case. Plus, women care nothing about strength....the average, untrained skinny fat is often much stronger than the average female gym rat.
Even if the perma and shredder both train exactly the same, with the exact same intensity the shredder will most likely take home a chick and the perma will most likely take home some chips.
In the end it matters not how much the perma squats or benches or curls because the shredder has stage-worthy abs enough to place in the open division of the local Poopsville BB Classic and can run a tough mudder course in under 3 hours.