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Re: conservativism overrated
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2013, 08:34:09 AM »
Does this mean that conservatism is past its time and that liberalism is the mandate of the future?

No, it doesn't. Liberalism's continued success depends on many factors, but two in particular. First, it must paint the political alternative, conservatism, as the faction of social injustice, as anti-immigrant, anti-entitlement, anti-regulation and so on. The Obama campaign did that effectively in this election without an equally effective conservative response. One presumes that conservatives will be ready in 2016.

Second, and more important, effective state intervention of the sort liberals propose depends almost entirely on a state that is strong economically and socially. It is here that liberalism falls short in the long term. The various liberal constituencies are in fact atomized groups of individuals who are relying on government, rather than creating the economic growth or fostering the social and civic health necessary to sustain the ideal liberal state.

Whereas liberals see entitlements as the immediate response to economic injustice, many fail to realize that they alone cannot rebuild a middle class. In fact, they can have the opposite effect in the long term and insulate their recipients from upward mobility. With $16 trillion in national debt, an aging population and an already-overburdened entitlement system, the ideal liberal social welfare state can only sustain itself for so long before it collapses under its own weight. It is a lifeline attached to a slowly sinking ship.


Whereas liberals celebrate subsidized birth control and the unmooring of what they see as narrow-minded religious moral standards, they fail to realize the alternative that is right in front of them: out-of-wedlock birth rates that are at all-time highs and a destructive breakdown in the family unit.

Absent strong, active, character-forming institutions, like families, schools, and churches, single mothers and low-income households in many cases have no where else to turn but to the government. The problem is that liberals often confuse such allegiance with successful governing.

The liberal coalition of the future looks more like Greece, an advanced secular, social welfare state, than the idealized liberal glory days of FDR.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/28/opinion/bennett-liberalism

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Re: conservativism overrated
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2013, 08:35:47 AM »
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So true!!

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Re: conservativism overrated
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2013, 08:44:55 AM »
Starting at 3:09 of this video truer words have never been spoken.

Strange that it is not an old, racist white man saying it.




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Re: conservativism overrated
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2013, 09:25:09 AM »
it's getting tougher and tougher to use the word "conservative" and "liberal" these days, to be honest.

Top conservatives are playing ball on amnesty.  Top liberals are loving drones blowing up americans on US soil.

In their attempts to pander to voters, politicians on BOTH sides of the aisle are jumping to the other side so much that... lets be honest... Can you REALLY predict right now what the GOP or Dem candidate for prez in 2016 will stand for?

Chris Christie believes in 98% of Cuomo platform, and played footsie with obama instead of campaining with romney - as the most popular repub in the party, Christie could have had Romney out to tour damage and used that Sandy platform.  He shunned romney, and it could have cost him the race.

Rubio is now supporting amnesty and it appears he's taking mccain's place of agreeing with anything.  Rand Paul is loving amnesty too.  WTF????

And don't get me started on the dems.  Hilary = obama = cheney = warmonger.  Peace went out the window.  Both of these parties are blurring lines. 

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Re: conservativism overrated
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2013, 09:12:28 PM »

Rubio is now supporting amnesty and it appears he's taking mccain's place of agreeing with anything.  Rand Paul is loving amnesty too.  WTF????

And don't get me started on the dems.  Hilary = obama = cheney = warmonger.  Peace went out the window.  Both of these parties are blurring lines. 

Because both take their marching orders from the same drummer.  :'(
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