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« on: March 17, 2013, 01:48:20 AM »

US assault weapons ban heading for defeat in the Senate

President Barack Obama's bid to renew a ban on military-style assault weapons narrowly won the backing of the Senate Judiciary Committee on Thursday and headed to the full Senate, where it appears certain to fail.


A ban on weapons like the rifle used at Newtown looks likely to fail in the Senate.
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On a party line vote of 10-8, the Democratic-led panel approved a bill to renew a ban similar to one that expired in 2004. The measure would also limit high-capacity ammunition clips to 10 bullets.

Military-style assault weapons have been the weapon of choice in a number of recent US mass shootings, including one at a elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut, that killed 20 children and six adults on Dec. 14.
Polls show a majority of Americans back the ban.

WHAT??!  No way the majority of Americans support this!!!   Shocked

But most Senate Republicans and a number of Democrats from rural states oppose it, arguing it would violate the constitutional right to bear arms. Many fear that backing the legislation could cost them re-election.

Mr Obama's call to renew the ban is a centrepiece of his effort to curb US gun violence in the wake of Newtown.

The President thanked the committee for approving the bill, saying in a statement that the weapons "are designed for the battlefield and have no place on our streets, in our schools or threatening our law enforcement officers."

Assistant Senate Minority Leader John Cornyn of Texas, one of eight committee Republicans, opposed the bill, saying: "This is a flawed piece of legislation that jeopardizes the self-defense and constitutional rights of law-abiding Texans, while doing nothing to address the tragic problem of gun violence."

The bill, offered by Senator Dianne Feinstein of California, would ban the sale, import and manufacture of 157 specific types of military-style, semi-automatic assault weapons. It would exempt 2,258 types of rifles and shotguns that are considered "legitimate hunting and sporting" firearms. The prohibition would take effect immediately if the bill becomes law.

Mrs Feinstein said the exemption should provide the American people with more than enough weapons to defend themselves.

"Do they need a bazooka?" she asked at the hearing. "I don't think so."

Before the full Senate votes on the bill, likely next month, senators are certain to face fierce lobbying efforts from gun-rights groups and those who favor tougher gun laws, including mayors, parents and clergy.

Mr Obama's Democrats control the Senate, 55-45. Yet 60 votes may be needed to clear a possible Republican procedural roadblock to a vote on the measure.

"I don't think the bill will get more than 50 votes," Senator Charles Grassley, the top Republican on the Judiciary Committee, told Reuters.

Chairman Patrick Leahy, a gun enthusiast who target shoots on his Vermont farm, joined nine fellow Democrats in voting for Feinstein's bill. But he said he wasn't completely comfortable it.

"I have told her I have some concerns about some aspects of it, but I feel this is a matter of such importance that it should be voted by the whole Senate, not just by this committee," Mr Leahy said.

The assault weapons ban bill is the fourth gun measure approved by the committee in the past two weeks, all on party line or largely party line votes.

The others would expand criminal background checks on gun buyers, make it a federal crime to buy a gun on behalf of someone who is prohibited from owning one, and provide $40 million a year in federal matching funds for each of the next 10 years to improve school security.

The only one that seems likely to win approval by the Senate and be sent to the Republican-led House of Representatives for consideration is the measure to enhance school security. The one to expand background checks may also survive if Democrats can reach a compromise on it with Republicans.
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« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2013, 05:55:23 AM »

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« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2014, 10:21:22 AM »

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« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2014, 10:24:38 AM »

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« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2014, 10:27:05 AM »


"renew a ban similar to one that expired in 2004."

So this wasn't even new legislation.  Just similar to one that already existed previously.

 Roll Eyes

Good job idiot.  So far, you haven't produced any links new legislation that Obama created to take peoples guns. 

No surprise.  More whining and bullshit from you.
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« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2014, 10:30:58 AM »

"renew a ban similar to one that expired in 2004."

So this wasn't even new legislation.  Just similar to one that already existed previously.

 Roll Eyes

Good job idiot.  So far, you haven't produced any links new legislation that Obama created to take peoples guns. 

No surprise.  More whining and bullshit from you.


LMFAO - you lost get the fuck over it.  Suck it up buttercup you clown.  you were made to look like an ass again
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« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2014, 10:33:02 AM »


LMFAO - you lost get the fuck over it.  Suck it up buttercup you clown.  you were made to look like an ass again

And the delusions continue.  Is it painful being so stupid?  Serious question there.
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« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2014, 10:33:43 AM »

so after nothing happened in the house, and nothing happened in the exec order...

a small group of far-left dems decided to play with some Brady-style bill that they already know will fail.  Feinstein and Grassley, 2 of the most liberal the world has ever known, are trying to drum up fundraising in their districts with a bill they already admit is just an exercise in "making a point".



Yeah, sorry, but that's not "obama coming for our guns".  
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« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2014, 10:34:42 AM »

so after nothing happened in the house, and nothing happened in the exec order...

a small group of far-left dems decided to play with some Brady-style bill that they already know will fail.  Feinstein and Grassley, 2 of the most liberal the world has ever known, are trying to drum up fundraising in their districts with a bill they already admit is just an exercise in "making a point".



Yeah, sorry, but that's not "obama coming for our guns".  


Because the rats you voted for feared for their relection seeing how ridiculous and unpopular the Obama proposals were.


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« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2014, 10:35:21 AM »

so after nothing happened in the house, and nothing happened in the exec order...

a small group of far-left dems decided to play with some Brady-style bill that they already know will fail.  Feinstein and Grassley, 2 of the most liberal the world has ever known, are trying to drum up fundraising in their districts with a bill they already admit is just an exercise in "making a point".



Yeah, sorry, but that's not "obama coming for our guns".  

To him it is.  Really now... you have to leave him something to whine and cry about.
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« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2014, 10:36:37 AM »


Because the rats you voted for feared for their relection seeing how ridiculous and unpopular the Obama proposals were.


I voted for Grassley and Fineswine?   Um, nope.   Doesn't really work like that.   Aside from the fact I dislike them, I'd have to live in their state to do so. 
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« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2014, 10:38:13 AM »


I voted for Grassley and Fineswine?   Um, nope.   Doesn't really work like that.   Aside from the fact I dislike them, I'd have to live in their state to do so. 

You are wasting your time with common sense.  It isn't going to penetrate the fog of stupidity he surrounds himself with. 
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« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2014, 10:45:56 AM »

You are wasting your time with common sense.  It isn't going to penetrate the fog of stupidity he surrounds himself with. 

shut up, liberal.   You and your buddies elected stalin and moussolini into office, and we all see what happened!
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« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2014, 11:10:30 AM »

I love how these two can honestly sit here and pretend that Obama did not make a major push for gun control in 2013...the delusion  is baffling
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« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2014, 11:17:11 AM »

I love how these two can honestly sit here and pretend that Obama did not make a major push for gun control in 2013...the delusion  is baffling

Its a cult of personality - they worship him as their messiah
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« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2014, 11:25:32 AM »

I love how you two retards can sit here and claim this, but offer no proof.

It's delusional.  No surprise.
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« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2014, 11:27:59 AM »

Mr Obama's call to renew the ban is a centrepiece of his effort to curb US gun violence in the wake of Newtown.

The President thanked the committee for approving the bill, saying in a statement that the weapons "are designed for the battlefield and have no place on our streets, in our schools or threatening our law enforcement officers."
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« Reply #17 on: April 24, 2014, 11:28:56 AM »

^^ sounds like talk.  Where's the action? 

You really are stupid aren't you?
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« Reply #18 on: April 24, 2014, 11:30:03 AM »

On a party line vote of 10-8, the Democratic-led panel approved a bill to renew a ban similar to one that expired in 2004. The measure would also limit high-capacity ammunition clips to 10 bullets.
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« Reply #19 on: April 24, 2014, 11:33:13 AM »

On a party line vote of 10-8, the Democratic-led panel approved a bill to renew a ban similar to one that expired in 2004. The measure would also limit high-capacity ammunition clips to 10 bullets.


No new legislation huh?

You really are stupid.   We all knew it, but here you are... proving it over and over again.
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« Reply #20 on: April 24, 2014, 11:38:25 AM »

No new legislation huh?

You really are stupid.   We all knew it, but here you are... proving it over and over again.

It is new legislation asshole - the law of the land right now is no AWB and to get another requires A FUCKING NEW LAW 

Keep grasping at straws you limp wristed little weak impotent fag
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« Reply #21 on: April 24, 2014, 12:07:20 PM »

No new legislation huh?

You really are stupid.   We all knew it, but here you are... proving it over and over again.

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« Reply #22 on: April 24, 2014, 12:10:33 PM »

This must be their coping mechanism for dealing with the epic defeat their side took last year.

'It never happened'
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« Reply #23 on: April 26, 2014, 08:57:09 AM »

"Military Style" Roll Eyes

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« Reply #24 on: April 26, 2014, 10:14:48 AM »

No new legislation huh?

You really are stupid.   We all knew it, but here you are... proving it over and over again.

HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!

You are a damn retard. You are consuming way too much oxygen.
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