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Re: History and religion are bullshit.
« Reply #25 on: March 18, 2013, 11:23:48 AM »
Here's a Euro counterweight style.  A hell of a thing to look out over the wall of your castle and see.


The Chinese invented them first tho and got people pulling on it to fire instead of using a massive counterweight.  That made them a lot faster, which counts big if an enemy is coming at you instead of just sitting behind a wall.  They also used lots of little rocks instead of one large projectile since they were interested in killing men on the field rather than knocking down fortifications.
Very interesting Tape so seems the Chinese invented this to keep people from coming over the wall.

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Re: History and religion are bullshit.
« Reply #26 on: March 18, 2013, 11:28:40 AM »
Very interesting Tape so seems the Chinese invented this to keep people from coming over the wall.
Thats the whole point. Nobody really knows who invented what and when. The best things we have are vague references (by biased historians) and over the top, self biographies by self serving people (Julius Caesar).

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Re: History and religion are bullshit.
« Reply #27 on: March 18, 2013, 11:31:46 AM »
Thats the whole point. Nobody really knows who invented what and when. The best things we have are vague references (by biased historians) and over the top, self biographies by self serving people (Julius Caesar).
Good point. The ides of March a very disturbing month in the Zodiac Julius was murdered in March. Most any girl I meet born in March is kinda disturbed.

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Re: History and religion are bullshit.
« Reply #28 on: March 18, 2013, 11:35:40 AM »
My ideas on Religion is this- DO all the GOOD you can, without going overboard and loosing your focus (we are not the government- look after your friends and family).
***AS FOR HOLIDAYS- Like St.Patrick's Day, etc... enjoy!  Have that "Green Beer", wear a green shirt... don't sweat the technique!!!!
Save all the biblical denunciations, etc... for the gimmicks like Security1 (Jon Harridan, etc etc)  We're TIRED of all the devout Priests getting caught molesting children and all the scandals of those that say we are "going astray".  Instead, I am SPIRITUAL in my own way... :)

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Re: History and religion are bullshit.
« Reply #29 on: March 18, 2013, 11:41:49 AM »
As I sit watching the origin of St. Patrick's day, I can't help but wonder how stupid people have become. So whatever some monk did in the 5th century, has evolved into leprechauns, green beer, etc... How is that any different from Jesus? We celebrate Jesus with Christmas and Easter. Presents and chocolate bunnies?  Columbus day?  I guarantee that fucker wasn't the first outsider to discover America. I would venture to say that only 20% of what we know about history is true. Yet, most people blindly follow tradition like lemmings. I guess we will all know the truth when we die.
The origins get started as such but the festivals and celebration get altered to be set for the mood of the style of the era, I don't see how that makes the origin BS or fake or a lie, yes history is written by the winners therefore it is compromised at the beginning but nothing gets altered through time like everyone seems to think, it was either BS right from the beginning or it was not, nothing changes

Now history as the major events are concerned are not BS and are right 80% of the time as far as details are concerned yes you are right, they are only right maybe 20% of the time. FFY Christmas and St. Patrick"s day have nothing to do with modern religion.

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Re: History and religion are bullshit.
« Reply #30 on: March 18, 2013, 11:42:32 AM »
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Re: History and religion are bullshit.
« Reply #31 on: March 18, 2013, 11:44:19 AM »
My ideas on Religion is this- DO all the GOOD you can, without going overboard and loosing your focus (we are not the government- look after your friends and family).
***AS FOR HOLIDAYS- Like St.Patrick's Day, etc... enjoy!  Have that "Green Beer", wear a green shirt... don't sweat the technique!!!!
Save all the biblical denunciations, etc... for the gimmicks like Security1 (Jon Harridan, etc etc)  We're TIRED of all the devout Priests getting caught molesting children and all the scandals of those that say we are "going astray".  Instead, I am SPIRITUAL in my own way... :)
seriously, out of all of that drivel, I get exactly what you mean. Religion should be left to each person's interpretation. Religion is not Walmart.

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Re: History and religion are bullshit.
« Reply #32 on: March 18, 2013, 11:48:47 AM »
The origins get started as such but the festivals and celebration get altered to be set for the mood of the style of the era, I don't see how that makes the origin BS or fake or a lie, yes history is written by the winners therefore it is compromised at the beginning but nothing gets altered through time like everyone seems to think, it was either BS right from the beginning or it was not, nothing changes

Now history as the major events are concerned are not BS and are right 80% of the time as far as details are concerned yes you are right, they are only right maybe 20% of the time. FFY Christmas and St. Patrick"s day have nothing to do with modern religion.
I agree, history (current) is mostly correct. There is almost no way it couldnt be, in todays information age. I just question people who blindly go on heresy from thousands of years ago. We have no clue what really happened. "To the victor go the spoils"....and the storylines :-\

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Re: History and religion are bullshit.
« Reply #33 on: March 18, 2013, 11:49:28 AM »
seriously, out of all of that drivel, I get exactly what you mean. Religion should be left to each person's interpretation. Religion is not Walmart.

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That was the meaning, but my way of illuminating it... ;)

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Re: History and religion are bullshit.
« Reply #34 on: March 18, 2013, 11:50:26 AM »
Yes... all distraction and diversion.  

Main-stream media is also 95% propaganda.  The 'powers that be' maintain their power and dominance by divide and conquering the masses using religion, race, sex, politics and class warfare.

Keep enlightening your fellow brethren.



a big reason why i don't watch tv.

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Re: History and religion are bullshit.
« Reply #35 on: March 18, 2013, 11:53:24 AM »
I agree, history (current) is mostly correct. There is almost no way it couldnt be, in todays information age. I just question people who blindly go on heresy from thousands of years ago. We have no clue what really happened. "To the victor go the spoils"....and the storylines :-\
Yes you are right, once the story teller starts getting into details, your safe to call BS.

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Re: History and religion are bullshit.
« Reply #36 on: March 18, 2013, 12:37:24 PM »
some famous quote goes "the victors write the history books"

so who really know what really happened when. way i feel, if it doesn't directly affect then who gives a fuck

Not necessarily! Or we wouldn't have the Bible. All of the New Testament and big chunk of the Old Testament were written, while Israel was in bondage, particularly by the Babylonians, the Medes/Persians, and the Romans.

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Re: History and religion are bullshit.
« Reply #37 on: March 18, 2013, 12:40:30 PM »
Not necessarily! Or we wouldn't have the Bible. All of the New Testament and big chunk of the Old Testament were written, while Israel was in bondage, particularly by the Babylonians, the Medes/Persians, and the Romans.

and look at the doubt those accounts have been subjected over the years - should have kept a hard copy
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Re: History and religion are bullshit.
« Reply #38 on: March 18, 2013, 12:55:08 PM »
The bible has been re-written, and texts have been omitted. How do we really know that the dead sea scrolls were't a hoax?

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Re: History and religion are bullshit.
« Reply #39 on: March 18, 2013, 01:23:25 PM »
The bible has been re-written, and texts have been omitted. How do we really know that the dead sea scrolls were't a hoax?

and how different it might have been for Mr Moses if he had taken his tablets before he came down the hil
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Re: History and religion are bullshit.
« Reply #40 on: March 18, 2013, 01:58:40 PM »
history describes past strategies of survival that worked and failed.

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Re: History and religion are bullshit.
« Reply #41 on: March 18, 2013, 02:03:37 PM »
Still have that watch? That should be in a museum.

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Re: History and religion are bullshit.
« Reply #42 on: March 19, 2013, 01:40:41 PM »
and look at the doubt those accounts have been subjected over the years - should have kept a hard copy
No doubt at all;

Sennacherib , King of Assyria conquered Israel = proved

Babylonia conquered Assyria = proved

Nebuchadnezzar and The Babylonian exile = proved

King Cyrus of Persia conquered Babylon = proved

Greek rule = proved

Roman rule = proved

The setting of the entire Biblical Narrative has been proved, The wars, The battles, The Kings, even famines and pestilences that took place have been verified, and over 100 Biblical cities have been discovered through archaeology including Babylon, Nineveh and the 2 most important Sodom and Gomorrah and most since 1850

The Bible is the most historically reliable and historically accurate manuscript on the planet