Thinking of training arms, chest and calves only....

[dj181]

this protein thing is driving me fucking nuts!!!

Christ! ima gonna find the answer even if it takes me to hell and back!!!!

right now ima gonna google up King Zane's thoughts and recommendations on it

[Mr Nobody]

this protein thing is driving me fucking nuts!!!

Christ! ima gonna find the answer even if it takes me to hell and back!!!!

right now ima gonna google up King Zane's thoughts and recommendations on it

Relax man and read this.
http://www.mikementzer.com/proteinparadox.html

[Borracho]

Barracho only thing, I am hearing Kim Jong-un may enter as well, I hear he has some big guns.

lol

Those asians got huge calves. I don't know why but I've seen plenty skinny asian dudes with amazing calves. GENES!

Yeah dj the classic bodybuilding has weight limits for height as it tries to be more proportionate. I was measured with shoes so I probably measured at 180cm or a little under and I'm supposed to weigh no more than 82 k...so I was told.

I'm better at lbs and inches...dude at the gym is helping me with that.

[Borracho]

Or maybe I can't be more than 86 kilos 

82k is like 180lbs...

Shit I can't remember this stuff in kilos lol

[Mr Nobody]

lol

Those asians got huge calves. I don't know why but I've seen plenty skinny asian dudes with amazing calves. GENES!

Yeah dj the classic bodybuilding has weight limits for height as it tries to be more proportionate. I was measured with shoes so I probably measured at 180cm or a little under and I'm supposed to weigh no more than 82 k...so I was told.

I'm better at lbs and inches...dude at the gym is helping me with that.

A genetic trait of Asians, you will never see a Asian with small calves and I bet most never work them either maybe the rice fields walking in moist soil all day which puts more resistance on calves = Ancestory genes. I got a friend with huge calves he never done a calf raise in his life. I had to bust my ass to get mine acceptable to be onstage once I got them up not so difficult to maintain.

[Borracho]

A genetic trait of Asians, you will never see a Asian with small calves and I bet most never work them either maybe the rice fields walking in moist soil all day which puts more resistance on calves = Ancestory genes. I got a friend with huge calves he never done a calf raise in his life. I had to bust my ass to get mine acceptable to be onstage once I got them up not so difficult to maintain.

Pisses me off when I see people who don't even train and got nice full calves  

[dj181]

Or maybe I can't be more than 86 kilos 

82k is like 180lbs...

Shit I can't remember this stuff in kilos lol

82kg=180

so is this the limit for fellas @ 180 cm?

[Borracho]

82kg=180

so is this the limit for fellas @ 180 cm?

IFBB rules...

http://www.ifbb.com/pdf/Men%27s%20Classic%20Bodybuilding%20Rules%20-%20updated%20July,%202011.pdf

[Mr Nobody]

Pisses me off when I see people who don't even train and got nice full calves  

At the same time most Asians struggle on arms so what does that tell you? Genes rule.

[dj181]

IFBB rules...

http://www.ifbb.com/pdf/Men%27s%20Classic%20Bodybuilding%20Rules%20-%20updated%20July,%202011.pdf

thanks brother

so max wt for me @ 180 cm would be 86 kg which is a buck 90

my ideal wt is 175-180 IMHO

[Borracho]

You're probably right if everything grows proportionate. We gotta get you there first and see if you're happy with it.

[dj181]

You're probably right if everything grows proportionate. We gotta get you there first and see if you're happy with it.

yep, you're right

i got this crazy fear that i'll grow HUGE over night and that i'll and end up looking like some buttugly toady mass monster with no pretty lines and zero aesthetics with no turning back lol

and yeah, i really do have this fear

after reading more on this protein intake guideline recommendations it looks like i'll try and get 200-225 grams per day

so now i'll have to eat lots more chicken, eggs, and cheese

[Mr Nobody]

yep, you're right

i got this crazy fear that i'll grow HUGE over night and that i'll and end up looking like some buttugly toady mass monster with no pretty lines and zero aesthetics with no turning back lol

and yeah, i really do have this fear

after reading more on this protein intake guideline recommendations it looks like i'll try and get 200-225 grams per day

so now i'll have to eat lots more chicken, eggs, and cheese

Dude what you talking about you don't have the structure to be a mass monster. Relax.

[Borracho]

yep, you're right

i got this crazy fear that i'll grow HUGE over night and that i'll and end up looking like some buttugly toady mass monster with no pretty lines and zero aesthetics with no turning back lol

and yeah, i really do have this fear

after reading more on this protein intake guideline recommendations it looks like i'll try and get 200-225 grams per day

so now i'll have to eat lots more chicken, eggs, and cheese

lol..yeah like people who come to the gym the first time saying...I don't wanna get toooo big.

Or other people like my little brother....he says "I wanna take something that will make me grow fast". And I say... well there's steroids but you still have to train and eat to grow. He's like what?? that's too much is there something easier and faster? lol

And give it a shot with the higher protein....200 sounds perfect.  

[dj181]

Dude what you talking about you don't have the structure to be a mass monster. Relax.

never claimed to be completely rational man

but i'm not shitting when i talk about this crazyass fear, as i really do have this fucked up fear

very similar to my fear that training legs will give me wide-ass child-bearing hips

and yeah, i expressed this to Mentzer on a phone consultation and he said "look at Sergio, you could fit his ass in a tea cup" and yes, Mentzer really said this to me

lol..yeah like people who come to the gym the first time saying...I don't wanna get toooo big.

Or other people like my little brother....he says "I wanna take something that will make me grow fast". And I say... well there's steroids but you still have to train and eat to grow. He's like what?? that's too much is there something easier and faster? lol

And give it a shot with the higher protein....200 sounds perfect. 

i just made out a new diet with a 10 oz chicken breast twice a day and 4 eggs at another meal plus my typical cheese breakfast, and it's put me @ 225 grams of pro per day, and @ only 1900 cals

[Borracho]

Getting "too big" will not happen over night. But I understand what you're saying...recently started seeing guys I thought were HUGE before and realizing I wasn't too far away from that size. Made me think....jeez how much bigger do you really wanna get.

Bigger is not better but also don't let that prevent you from putting on some mass now before you get older and it becomes harder and harder.

[dj181]

i hear ya man, and i'm just trying to figure out what ideal is for me, and i really think that this is

yeah, he's got better bis than me, but i got better tris than him

[dj181]

btw B we should decide what pics to use for dis contest

i say... front relaxed, rear relaxed and side relaxed all with leg showing

those will be the pics used to determine leanness and who is the leanest, and then we can send other pics for assessment purposes to determine our strengths and weaknesses (basically for judging our proportions and which muscle groups are behind and need to be brought up and which ones are ahead and can just be maintained) these "extra pics" won't be used for the competition but just be used so that we (or mostly likely i) can hear which muscles you dudes think need more focus and which ones are rather ok

also i want to show how much my chest and arms have come up in this short time frame, if they indeed have done so

i'll most likely send a close up bi shot, and close up calf shot , a close up thigh shot and a back double bi

[Borracho]

I thought this was battle was gonna be fought in jeans lol

sounds good to me man....

[dj181]

allright, cool beans

so you gonna come in "as is" or are you gonna do some "tricks of da trade"?

me? well, i'll just come in "as is"

[Mr Nobody]

A infrapatellar shot may help in the case of a tie.

[Borracho]

allright, cool beans

so you gonna come in "as is" or are you gonna do some "tricks of da trade"?

me? well, i'll just come in "as is"

Too lazy to do anything ....will most likely be flat too since I still have to diet hard if I'm gonna do this up coming contest.

Don't tan anymore either...that shit will age you and give you crocodile skin.

[Borracho]

A infrapatellar shot may help in the case of a tie.

I don't even know what that is

[Mr Nobody]

Too lazy to do anything ....will most likely be flat too since I still have to diet hard if I'm gonna do this up coming contest.

Don't tan anymore either...that shit will age you and give you crocodile skin.

Just use Protan or Clinique in the winter that's what I use and yes sun tanning will age you.

[Borracho]

Just use Protan or Clinique in the winter that's what I use and yes sun tanning will age you.

I've also heard of some new peptide ...I'm not sure if it comes in a pill or injection but it will give you a natural tan. Have you heard anything of the like?