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Author Topic: First cycle test only and pct only ( of course)  (Read 809 times)
1MoreRound
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« on: March 22, 2013, 12:26:23 PM »

Hey Get Big

First post here and on any BB forum ... Ok here are the stats :

5' 10
10% BF when I start
In the gym: long enough to do one
Age : 29
Training spot on
Nutrition spot on
I haven't ate a Piece of food not weighed for months. Ok maybe not every piece but we get the picture.
I'll have complete direction on the nutrition side of things when I start.

Here's my questions :

1) can I pin on Fri night and Sunday a.m making these two pins the only pins of the week, I have personal reasons for this

2)I want to do a test Only cycle. From my research 500mg/week is ideal for first. What does everyone think of maybe 250ml/week to see how I react. See how I grow.
I'd like to add, I'm realistic I know I'm not going to blow up like the hulk ( or maybe I will) but I have a career in a corporate environment where I need to be under radar about this. Better yet, I'd just like to cause zero suspicion. In winter this would be easier to hide cause I wear a suit. But summer I'm In polos and stuff.

Can 250ml be good? 350ml?

Any guidance here from people with the experience will be greatly appreciated.

Thank you all for your time. 

I read the rules and I'm hoping I broke zero. If I did let me know so i can not in future.

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1MoreRound
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« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2013, 12:27:30 PM »

Hey Get Big

First post here and on any BB forum ... Ok here are the stats :

5' 10
10% BF when I start
In the gym: long enough to do one
Age : 29
Training spot on
Nutrition spot on
I haven't ate a Piece of food not weighed for months. Ok maybe not every piece but we get the picture.
I'll have complete direction on the nutrition side of things when I start.

Here's my questions :

1) can I pin on Fri night and Sunday a.m making these two pins the only pins of the week, I have personal reasons for this

2)I want to do a test Only cycle. From my research 500mg/week is ideal for first. What does everyone think of maybe 250ml/week to see how I react. See how I grow.
I'd like to add, I'm realistic I know I'm not going to blow up like the hulk ( or maybe I will) but I have a career in a corporate environment where I need to be under radar about this. Better yet, I'd just like to cause zero suspicion. In winter this would be easier to hide cause I wear a suit. But summer I'm In polos and stuff.

Can 250ml be good? 350ml?

Any guidance here from people with the experience will be greatly appreciated.

Thank you all for your time. 

I read the rules and I'm hoping I broke zero. If I did let me know so i can not in future.



Last thing can I pin once a week if circumstances call for it
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1MoreRound
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« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2013, 01:15:36 PM »

ppl say 500mg test is ideal for first time.

i wonder why.

because, 250mg of pharma test e,or cyp, or prop, whichever, is certainly more than enough for any newcomer.

absolute certainity its more than enough.

once a week 250 is good enough, do that for half a year or year straight.

not dosage is important, but consistency over extended periods.

dont worry and think too much about dosages or which drug to take.just pin one ampoula of test e weekly for a long time and train hard ,eat clean.



Thank you for you response   This is def the route I would like to take. Much appreciated!
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« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2013, 04:29:36 PM »

no problem,just do it and never look back.

dont listen to guys with alegedly complicated theories and stuff.

its all very simple.

As a matter of fact, thats exactly what I'm going to do. Right when I'm at 10% BF. shouldn't be to long by June.
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« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2013, 04:41:52 PM »

no problem,just do it and never look back.

dont listen to guys with alegedly complicated theories and stuff.

its all very simple.

What should I have on hand as far as PCT/ have on hand during  ?  I want to get it all at once while I can.  Or during a 250ml dose I should say.  I mean what would you recommend.  Iv seen different opinions. If I'm talking to much here let me know but I like and listen better through interaction. Thanks!

I had Gyno surgery in the past from natural causes ( maybe doing to much drugs as a youngster) or not.
The whole gland was taken out and My doc who does alot of pros does them for free after first time if it comes back. Just thought that info is important.
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« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2013, 10:59:54 AM »

no problem,just do it and never look back.

dont listen to guys with alegedly complicated theories and stuff.

its all very simple.

Dear Galeniko,

After 8 weeks you will not respond anymore at the same dosage so to use this for 6 months it's useless and your axis will not like it.
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« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2013, 12:47:59 PM »

Dear Galeniko,

After 8 weeks you will not respond anymore at the same dosage so to use this for 6 months it's useless and your axis will not like it.

So christi how long would you say to run 250ml per week?  10weeks?  With PCT after?
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« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2013, 03:15:27 PM »

the "short cycle with pct and keep most gains" thing sounds nice

but is probably not true

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« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2013, 05:09:01 PM »

yeah.what happens with those short cycles,pause, repeat,etc is this:

first it takes 2-3weeks till test e even fully works in the body.say then,after 8 weeks guy goes off, his axis will be shut down anyway,its shut down straight after first injection.
then he suddenly has no test anymore in the body, but the built up estrogen can freely flow now, causing estrogen imbalance.
if he waits for 8 weeks until next cycle, his axis wont be fully recovered anyway, he will experience 8 weeks of pure estrogen being,and then shut down his axis yet again with the next 8 week cycle Roll Eyes

but now, the body is full of estrogens, and he now ads estrogen converting drugs to that.....

rinse repeat.recipe for epic failure.and fuck no the gains wont last any more than gains from longer cycle would last.

its not like im talking out of my rectum on this, ive been there plenty of times.

if one wants to go on and off route, stay on 6months followed by 6months off.something like that.

2months on gear will do fuck all, and the episode after the 2months is not gonna do any good.



Galeniko,  what should I have in hand for 6 months  250 Per week. And when should I absolutely take it. Really would like to hear your opinion here. PCT also. If I'm asking to much or braking the rules Let Me Know ! Please
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« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2013, 06:58:42 PM »

very simple.1 ampoula every week for 6 months and thats it.is also very cheap.

take it always on same day, but even that dont matter,1-2days early or late wont change a thing.

pct i dont believe in.i just let myself crash with no worry whatsoever.

i did pct before,it was the same as without pct.

ok, one very reputable guy here ive asked and he says, if anything, clomid after the cycle is all one needs.

eat clean most of the time,mate, and train hard as an animal,enjoy Cool

Thanks again. I really like it.

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« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2013, 01:59:11 AM »

wouldnt 6 months on 6 months off be useless too?

after 6 months off what is left?

 Huh

and would you take "pct" after those 6 months on?

thanks
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1MoreRound
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« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2013, 08:05:06 PM »

Well I just got labs done and scored a low 230. Never did a cycle.

TRT is being advised.

Feel like my June cycle plan is out the window.

What to do now
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« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2013, 08:06:57 PM »

Also I have 2 options:

Deal with a TRT doctor that deals with body builders and doesn't care if you cruise/blast under treatment

Or one that is a wel known reputable one that keeps you in high normal levels and will fire me if I ever decide to play around.
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« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2013, 08:17:30 PM »

man,if youre at 250 natural levels, sorry for laughing, then it dont matter either way, just go for lifelong trt and call it a day Cool



What doesn't  matter either way? Lol.

Am I fucked? Can I do future cycles ?  I'm blind here kinda
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« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2013, 08:36:51 PM »

It's so strange cause my libido is more than fine and I'm making gains.
I do tend to get tired at work for no reason tho more so than lets say than last year
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« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2013, 09:07:07 PM »

Am I crazy to think of this as an advantage and having less to lose now from getting the physique I really want?.

I mean the process sucks but iv been through ten times worse.
Past back pain freaked me way more
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« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2013, 09:15:53 PM »

yeah, what i mean, you can just do future cycles, the results you get for your natty levels is what i get after very long time on gear.

doc says"like very old man" Grin

but i know what you mean, getting horny and stiffy etc will still work.

Thanks G. You da man
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