is getting a pump really related to stimulating hypertrophy?

[anabolichalo]

what causes a muscle to grow from training

why are we here

[njflex]

what causes a muscle to grow from training

why are we here

u want to pump for the girls  thats what ur chasing ,,,

[Method101]

A pump makes your muscles bigger for an hour. Breaking down muscle fibres causes hypertrophy. Wether or not you have a pump has nothing to do with how much muscle fibres you have broken down.

[anabolichalo]

A pump makes your muscles bigger for an hour. Breaking down muscle tissue causes hypertrophy.

can you break down muscle tissue more effectively with striking the muscle with a barbell?

[Method101]

can you break down muscle tissue more effectively with striking the muscle with a barbell?

No you will just tear tendons and get muscle contusions.

[anabolichalo]

No you will just tear tendons and get muscle contusions.

so  how many sets are optimal? the more the better? more damage

[Method101]

so  how many sets are optimal? the more the better? more damage

Yes train until total failure If you don't get fed up.

When you have to lift lighter to continue getting your target 8 reps you have hit failure.

[anabolichalo]

Yes train until total failure If you don't get fed up.

When you have to lift lighter to continue getting your target 8 reps you have hit failure.

interesting

what is your stance on "not locking out joints to save wear and tear on the joints and keep the tension"


it allows you to work with a lot less weight

which maybe less effective

[Method101]

interesting

what is your stance on "not locking out joints to save wear and tear on the joints and keep the tension"


it allows you to work with a lot less weight

which maybe less effective

If you are natural your joints will be strong enough to take the locking out. Constant tension does not build muscle. Holding heavy shopping bags doesn't cause optimal hypertrophy, it is the contraction that breaks the fibres, if relieving the tension for a moment by locking out allows you to get a stronger contraction then lock out.

[anabolichalo]

If you are natural your joints will be strong enough to take the locking out. Constant tension does not build muscle. Holding heavy shopping bags doesn't cause hypertrophy, it is the contraction that breaks the fibres, if relieving the tension for a moment by locking out allows you to get a stronger contraction then lock out.

i always instinctively believed what you said

but bodybuilding trainers and bdybuilders claim other wise

[anabolichalo]

on gear , yes,ofc.

dont knwo why or what , but its true.

good pump, go home and eat your diet and will grow.

the main difference between natural and juiced training is precisely the insane pumps you get on gear.

so,its safe to say it has something to do with the pump.

if it didnt, naturals would all be monsters, instead of skeletons like "method101"

it's weird tho

the pump

mysteries of bb

[Method101]

i always instinctively believed what you said

but bodybuilding trainers and bdybuilders claim other wise

They always try to make retarded claims on how they have changed their training methods to justify how they gained 20lbs of mass in a single year because they can't be honest and say they upped the dosage, which is why you get a lot of bullshit like this going around.

If tension is the most important factor in hypertrophy then go do some shopping instead of training.

A pump is simply blood in the muscle delivering nutrients, it has fuck all to do with stimulating growth which comes in response to broken down fibres.

[njflex]

They always try to make retarded claims on how they have changed their training methods to justify how they gained 20lbs of mass in a single year because they can't be honest and say they upped the dosage, which is why you get a lot of bullshit like this going around.

If tension is the most important factor in hypertrophy then go do some shopping instead of training.

true...

[anabolichalo]

i think we are on to something here........


i remember a thread online about a delusional natural with broken dreams


he had squatted hardcore, had already big legs; but then  he managed to add 100lbs to his squat over a year or something like that

and his legs looked exactly the same

he was puzzled

"progressive resistance they said....squat heavier and grow bigger they said...why am i still the same"

the whole thing was weird and interesting

[Method101]

i think we are on to something here........


i remember a thread online about a delusional natural with broken dreams


he had squatted hardcore, had already big legs; but then  he managed to add 100lbs to his squat over a year or something like that

and his legs looked exactly the same

he was puzzled

"progressive resistance they said....squat heavier and grow bigger they said...why am i still the same"

the whole thing was weird and interesting

Bullshit, If you add 100lbs to your squat your leg muscles will have gotten bigger end of discussion.

[anabolichalo]

Bullshit, If you add 100lbs to your squat your leg muscles will have gotten bigger end of discussion.

that's what everybody said

he had pics to prove

[anabolichalo]

wes said the same thing on heavy lifting 

[jodsy]

the pump happens because your muscle is filling with blood because your using it...... it is a good indication your actually working the muscle......get a pump then rep till failure

[tommywishbone]

It mattered to every single NPC amateur and every single IFBB pro I every knew, and I knew 100's.

[NotSure]

It mattered to every single NPC amateur and every single IFBB pro I every knew, and I knew 100's.

TommyWishedtobeBoned is quite the connoisseur of bodybuilding cock. This man has been in many hotel beds.

[anabolichalo]

yes, simple as that.

ofc there needs to be some weight lifted, but yeah, its quite lenient on steroids.

lol at the naturals trying for years to improve their bench by 10lbs, even though itll do fuck fuck all in the end anyway

yeah

it's sad

i was one of them for so long


if not for the steroids boards online, i'd still believe all that crap 


"oh but stuart mcrobert, the author of hardgainer said you can reach 315 bench for a few reps, and if yu can do that you MUST be big...also stuart did 20 reps 405lbs deadlift naturall"

 

[tommywishbone]

TommyWishedtobeBoned is quite the connoisseur of bodybuilding cock. This man has been in many hotel beds.

  hahaha 

[jodsy]

yeah

it's sad

i was one of them for so long


if not for the steroids boards online, i'd still believe all that crap 


"oh but stuart mcrobert, the author of hardgainer said you can reach 315 bench for a few reps, and if yu can do that you MUST be big...also stuart did 20 reps 405lbs deadlift naturall"

 

strength is a bad indicator of size, strong muscles tend to be flatter.....

315 is what 3 plates that is strong for the untrained but average for a trained person.....

[anabolichalo]

so must one avoid to get too strong so that the muscles will not get flat?

serious question

ocd kicking in

[jodsy]

so must one avoid to get too strong so that the muscles will not get flat?

serious question

ocd kicking in

lifting as much as you can for a few reps (<5) flattens your muscles in my experience. The idea is to build volume and dimension into your muscles.

let me give you an example, a few years ago i could bench 3 plates for a four while i was training with the mentality of heavier is better but i stopped growing, i dropped to 2 plates and made the lift difficult for myself by slowing it down etc and started growing again..... maxing out weight wise is worthless in my opinion