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Re: Will liberals support WarBama's new war in Syria?
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2013, 07:54:38 AM »
sounds like everyone wants another POS war here.   Is Rand Paul the last one standing to say we DONT need to arm a bunch of fcking rebels in another terror state, seeing as how well it keeps working elsewhere?

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Re: Will liberals support WarBama's new war in Syria?
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2013, 12:17:04 PM »


my point was that it seems to be a topic that both parties agree upon.  Repubs who cried about obama's egypt and libya are now cheerleading on a near identical mess in Syria.  Anti-war liberals are cheering it on because obama likes it.  Both parties were against this horrible idea, and now both parties are embracing it.  Disgusts me.

To answer the thread topic  - Yes, liberals will support arming uneducated crazy radical rebels in syrai, as they did in egypt and libya.  So will repubs.  So will the POTUS and congress, regardless of party affil.

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Re: Will liberals support WarBama's new war in Syria?
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2013, 12:27:17 PM »
no, we all wont
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Re: Will liberals support WarBama's new war in Syria?
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2013, 01:05:34 PM »
no, we all wont

But you will of course as a fellow twink w obama.

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Re: Will liberals support WarBama's new war in Syria?
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2013, 06:13:17 AM »
Well it appears the official opposition in Syria has had enough just 4 months in.


Syrian opposition leader resigns 4 months after being elected

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Re: Will liberals support WarBama's new war in Syria?
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2013, 11:49:37 AM »
How CIA-Aided Arms Shipments To Syria Keep Ending Up In Radical Hands
 
Michael Kelley|52 minutes ago|165|
 


 In a new report detailing how the CIA helps Arab states buy and transfer arms for Syrian rebels, C. J. Chivers and Eric Schmitt of The New York Times reveal a major flaw in the West's strategy to arm non-radical Syrian rebels.
 
A commander of Ahrar Al Sham — one of the largest Islamist militias in Syria — told the Times that the American intelligence officers vetting rebels to determine who should receive the weapons are doing a poor job.
 
“There are fake Free Syrian Army brigades claiming to be revolutionaries, and when they get the weapons they sell them in trade,” the commander told the Times.
 
In March Blogger Eliot Higgins (aka Brown Moses) — who originally discovered an influx of Croatian weapons in southern Syria — noticed that the Saudi-purchased weapons turning up in the hands of jihadists all over the country.
 
In some way this makes sense given that radical groups like Jabhat al-Nusra are the best and most organized rebel fighters — they are the opposition's best chance to topple Bashar al-Assad, and they are flush with cash to boot.
 
Hardliners receiving the lion's share of weapons isn't a new problem. As far back as October Middle East and U.S. officials told the Times that most of the weapons being sent from Saudi Arabia and Qatar to Syrian rebels were going to hard-line Islamic jihadists as opposed to secular-leaning rebels.
 
“The opposition groups that are receiving the most of the lethal aid are exactly the ones we don’t want to have it,” one American official familiar with the situation told the New York Times.
 
The CIA is currently part of Western effort to "influence which groups dominate in post-Assad Syria" by feeding select rebels actionable intelligence. But the persistent failure to funnel weapons to the "right" rebels, along with the increasing dominance of radical groups, make up the biggest hitch in that plan.
 

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/cia-weapons-going-to-jihadists-in-syria-2013-3#ixzz2OZx76wrs


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Re: Will liberals support WarBama's new war in Syria?
« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2013, 11:23:43 AM »


Its the Cult of Personality over all else

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Re: Will liberals support WarBama's new war in Syria?
« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2013, 04:26:24 PM »
Why the fuck are we involved?!

I'm with 3333 on this one.

Fuck Obama.

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Re: Will liberals support WarBama's new war in Syria?
« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2013, 04:33:13 PM »
Let them kill each other.

Stay out of it.

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Re: Will liberals support WarBama's new war in Syria?
« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2013, 08:27:27 PM »
U.S. training Syrian opposition forces at secret location in Jordan, officials say
Associated Press ^ | 25 March 2013 06:11 PM | AP
Posted on March 25, 2013 8:08:46 PM EDT by haffast

WASHINGTON -- The United States is training secular Syrian fighters in Jordan in a bid to bolster forces battling President Bashar Assad's regime and stem the influence of Islamist radicals among the country's persistently splintered opposition, American and foreign officials said.

The training has been conducted for several months now in an unspecified location, concentrating largely on Sunnis and tribal Bedouins who formerly served as members of the Syrian army, officials told The Associated Press. The forces aren't members of the leading rebel group, the Free Syrian Army, which Washington and others fear may be increasingly coming under the sway of extremist militia groups, including some linked to al-Qaida, they said.

The operation is being run by U.S. intelligence and is ongoing, officials said, but those in Washington stressed that the U.S. is providing only nonlethal aid at this point. Others such as Britain and France are involved, they said, though it's unclear whether any Western governments are providing materiel or other direct military support after two years of civil war that according to the United Nations already has killed more than 70,000 people.

The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they weren't authorized to speak publicly about the program.

Officially, the Obama administration has been vague on the subject of what type of military training it may be providing, while insisting that it is doing all it can - short of providing weapons to the rebels or engaging in its own military intervention - to hasten the demise of the Assad family's four-decade dictatorship.

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Re: Will liberals support WarBama's new war in Syria?
« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2013, 08:29:13 PM »
Just like Bush couldn't do wrong with a certain group of dumb fucks... Obama can do no wrong with his group of idiots.

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Re: Will liberals support WarBama's new war in Syria?
« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2013, 09:20:22 PM »
Just like Bush couldn't do wrong with a certain group of dumb fucks... Obama can do no wrong with his group of idiots.

There are many morons who seem to blindly follow certain people.

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Re: Will liberals support WarBama's new war in Syria?
« Reply #15 on: March 27, 2013, 09:21:16 PM »
The jihadist groups (specifically al-Nusrah) are the ones holding all the territory the rebels have gained. Should Assad fall, the FSA and the other secular forces have 0 chance of defeating them. al-Nusra has been winning battles against the Syrian Army so why would they struggle with the FSA in a post-Assad Syria? Either way, it will be one gigantic cluster-fuck that will make Iraq pale in comparison.




Syria: Al Nusra Front Turns Its Guns On Pro-Democracy Rebel Group, 4 Killed

TAL ABYAD, Syria — Two Syrian rebel groups – one seeking an elected civil government, the other favoring the establishment of a religious state – are battling each other in the city of Tal Abyad, on the border with Turkey, in a sign of the tensions that are likely to rule this country if the government of President Bashar Assad falls.

Four people were killed Sunday in fighting here between the Farouq Battalions, which favors elections, and Jabhat al Nusra, or the Nusra Front, which the United States has declared an al Qaida-affiliated terrorist group. Since then, Farouq has been massing men here in an example of the growing friction that’s emerged in recent months as Nusra has captured strategic infrastructure across Syria’s north and east, including oil and gas installations, grain silos and a hydroelectric dam.

Raqqa province, where Tal Abyad is, and Hasaka province, to the east, are poverty-stricken but vital to Syria’s agriculture. Hasaka and Deir el Zour province to the south are the center of the country’s oil industry.

“They want to control the border crossing here,” said Abu Mansour, a member of Farouq in Tal Abyad. Like other rebels, he uses a nom de guerre to hide his identity from the government.

The rivalry between the groups is a reminder of how divided Syria’s rebel factions are and how inaccurate it is to refer to the anti-Assad forces as if they were a single group, with a single goal. Indeed, while news stories for months often referred to rebels as the Free Syrian Army, that term is more an idea than an organization. Instead, the rebel movement comprises dozens of groups whose ideologies have only one common goal: the toppling of the Assad regime.

Farouq, which has battalions across Syria and espouses a moderate interpretation of Islam, controls border crossings with Turkey at Tal Abyad and Bab al Hawa, in northwestern Syria. Nusra has attempted to seize control of both crossing points since Farouq took them from pro-Assad forces last September.

The rivalry between the groups has become increasingly apparent as Nusra raises the volume of its calls for Islamic law. Recently, it suggested it might declare Raqqa, the largest city under rebel control, the center of an Islamic emirate. Last November, the group clashed with members of Kurdish militias after it seized the border crossing at Ras al Ayn.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/03/26/3307682/islamists-secular-rebels-battle.html


Yeah, this will end well. Hopefully Assad sacks up and chemical weapons these scumbags right to Allah.

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Re: Will liberals support WarBama's new war in Syria?
« Reply #16 on: March 27, 2013, 10:53:49 PM »

Yeah, this will end well. Hopefully Assad sacks up and chemical weapons these scumbags right to Allah.

The instant chemical weapons are introduced, will supposedly be the justification for covert ops to turn overt.

Then you might end up with a situation where US troops are fighting rebels who are armed with traditional AND chemical weapons provided to them by the west. Clusterfvck indeed!
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