Phil Heath Talks About Too Much Protein

[musclecenter]

[DroppingPlates]

Knowledgeable person  only naive gym rats take his words seriously

[hipolito mejia]

I'd love to see him being interviewed on main stream tv with that philosophy .....

[DroppingPlates]

I'd love to see him being interviewed on main stream tv with that philosophy .....

You don't no shit about nutrition, so STFU obese schmoe

[NotSure]

If his nose gets any wider it will eclipse his shoulders.

Given the recent death of Nasser, one must wonder what Phil "thinks" about too much AAS, GH and insulin.  Probably not much. 

"Ohh no! Nasser died! He was young and still using steroids?! Cognitive alarm! Alarm! Alarm!... Cognitive dissonance initiated! Wait... its been 3 hours i need some protein. Prior knowledge forgotten and filed away in subconscious for next pang of pain from kidneys/liver." Learning fails to take place. The conversation was never had. His life will fail steadily and then suddenly.

[ukjeff]

"Everyones different"
Nope, we all have kidneys, and too much protein isn't good for your kidneys, without functioning kidneys you die.

Stupid twat.

[dj181]

"Everyones different"
Nope, we all have kidneys, and too much protein isn't good for your kidneys, without functioning kidneys you die.

Stupid twat.

how much protein is too much, in your opinion?

[ukjeff]

You can gain muscle on 1 gram per pound of bodyweight
Anything over 2gms per pound is too much

[DroppingPlates]

how much protein is too much, in your opinion?

There's no exact answer on this, like x grams per 1 pound/kilo of body weight. The color of your urine is an indication, but nothing more than that.

[dj181]

There's no exact answer on this, like x grams per 1 pound/kilo of body weight. The color of your urine is an indication, but nothing more than that.

so science has no answer about how much is too much?

i remember being taught at university that the brain needs a minimum of 100 carb grams per day for proper functioning

[ukjeff]

i remember being taught at university that the brain needs a minimum of 100 carb grams per day for proper functioning

Maybe thats why people on zero carb diets are fucking stupid.

[SF1900]

Heath, or any bodybuilder for that matter, is the last person I would listen to for nutritional advice. Nutrition is a science. I will get my science from the scientists.

[DroppingPlates]

Maybe thats why people on zero carb diets are fucking stupid.

Truth

[anabolichalo]

Heath, or any bodybuilder for that matter, is the last person I would listen to for nutritional advice. Nutrition is a science. I will get my science from the scientists.

i read a book on sports nutrition by a scientist

and the chapter on bodybuilding was telling you guys to eat way more carbs and way less protein

he said that bodybuilders are the most misinformed group of people in all of sports

1.5grams of protein per kilogram of bodyweight

and probably counts protein from non-animal sources


so what do you think

[anabolichalo]

Truth

this is one ugly mother fucker

with pearly whites

[ukjeff]

i read a book on sports nutrition by a scientist

and the chapter on bodybuilding was telling you guys to eat way more carbs and way less protein

he said that bodybuilders are the most misinformed group of people in all of sports

1.5grams of protein per kilogram of bodyweight

and probably counts protein from non-animal sources


so what do you think

Sounds a sensible approach to me.

[HTexan]

seriously tho, even one knows too much protein fucks with kidney function.

[anabolichalo]

Sounds a sensible approach to me.

this is the book



sample diets look pretty generic

with bagels

orange juice

etc

[DroppingPlates]

so science has no answer about how much is too much?

i remember being taught at university that the brain needs a minimum of 100 carb grams per day for proper functioning

First of all, protein need is prob the most discussed topic in muscleland. It not only depends on lifestyle and individual factors like weight, sex, activities, being natural or chemical enhanced, your training and so on..., but also on how you define the result of too much protein? (kidney conditioning/creatinine levels, anabolic state, etc?). The nutrient-fysiology relation remains a very complex one.

[ukjeff]

If you can put on muscle eating a gram per pound of bodyweight why eat anymore?

Its just a waste of time and you just shit it down the bog.

[DroppingPlates]

this is the book



sample diets look pretty generic

with bagels

orange juice

etc

Bagels & orange juice...  has that 'scientist' any knowledge of the glycaemic index and the effect on insulin levels?

[dj181]

If you can put on muscle eating a gram per pound of bodyweight why eat anymore?

Its just a waste of time and you just shit it down the bog.

good point, and i like to get my protein from food and not supps, so eating 1 gram per pound can be quite a fucking hassle, especially when dieting and you need to be careful not to consume too many cals

i've seen many reputable sources that say that 1.4 grams per kilo is enough

[ukjeff]

so eating 1 gram per pound can be quite a fucking hassle, especially when dieting and you need to be careful not to consume too many cals

If onetimehard reads this he will tear you another arsehole.   

Seriously, Im not and never have been a big protein eater, I eat more carbs generally and feel better on a high carb diet.
Protein-wise its chicken and steak for me with a few shakes thrown in, I am losing my faith in shakes at the moment due to the amount of shit they add to them.

Probably better off with a few eggs mixed with milk.

[SF1900]

i read a book on sports nutrition by a scientist

and the chapter on bodybuilding was telling you guys to eat way more carbs and way less protein

he said that bodybuilders are the most misinformed group of people in all of sports

1.5grams of protein per kilogram of bodyweight

and probably counts protein from non-animal sources


so what do you think

 

To be honest, I am not the most informed person about this stuff. I train and try to eat a balanced diet. I dont think that one needs to consume ALL that protein to build muscle. Then again, it depends how much muscle we are talking about. I guess its all relative.

Either way, if I had a choice to either listen to Heath or a scientists about nutrition, Ill go with the scientist.

[dj181]

If onetimehard reads this he will tear you another arsehole.   

Seriously, Im not and never have been a big protein eater, I eat more carbs generally and feel better on a high carb diet.
Protein-wise its chicken and steak for me with a few shakes thrown in, I am losing my faith in shakes at the moment due to the amount of shit they add to them.

Probably better off with a few eggs mixed with milk.

well man, Mentzer and AJ (Arthur Jones) say one only needs .36 grams per pound of bodyweight