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Re: Phil Heath Talks About Too Much Protein
« Reply #25 on: March 24, 2013, 10:32:08 AM »
Bagels & orange juice...  ::) has that 'scientist' any knowledge of the glycaemic index and the effect on insulin levels?
i dont know, he is very highly educated on nutrition????.............

not sure what to think of any of this to be honest


i also read this book, and it was pretty much the same


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Re: Phil Heath Talks About Too Much Protein
« Reply #26 on: March 24, 2013, 10:34:16 AM »
As long as you stay under 200g of protein, but optimally lower. Then you still have a chance to be healthy and have good mind.

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Re: Phil Heath Talks About Too Much Protein
« Reply #27 on: March 24, 2013, 10:38:39 AM »
such a douch

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Re: Phil Heath Talks About Too Much Protein
« Reply #28 on: March 24, 2013, 10:40:55 AM »
 

To be honest, I am not the most informed person about this stuff. I train and try to eat a balanced diet. I dont think that one needs to consume ALL that protein to build muscle. Then again, it depends how much muscle we are talking about. I guess its all relative.

Either way, if I had a choice to either listen to Heath or a scientists about nutrition, Ill go with the scientist.
This is correct high protein usage is not necessary mostly driven by merchants trying to sell products and hard on the kidneys. Yea relative to your bodyweight, I say 1 gram enough per pound of bodyweight.

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Re: Phil Heath Talks About Too Much Protein
« Reply #29 on: March 24, 2013, 10:41:11 AM »
such a douch
seems friendly but would fuck your wife when you're not looking

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Re: Phil Heath Talks About Too Much Protein
« Reply #30 on: March 24, 2013, 10:42:30 AM »
I WISH YOU PEOPLE WOULD SPECIFY IF YOU COUNT PROTEIN FROM NON ANIMAL SOURCES

A LOT OF BODYBUILDERS ONLY COUNT PROTEIN FROM ANIMAL SOURCES

SO WHEN THEY SAY THEY ARE EATING 300 GRAMS OF PROTEIN

THEY ARE ACTUALLY EATING LIKE 450-500

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Re: Phil Heath Talks About Too Much Protein
« Reply #31 on: March 24, 2013, 10:48:24 AM »
i dont know, he is very highly educated on nutrition????.............

not sure what to think of any of this to be honest


i also read this book, and it was pretty much the same



I can't judge a book by its cover  ;)
When I read a book/article/scientific paper, I'm looking for logic arguments and want to know more about the 'agenda' of the author(s). For example, does he/she works for the industry or a publicly-funded university?
To me, Walter Willett is one of the few trustworthy nutrition scientists. He criticizes the food & supp industry and the over-consumption of certain nutrients.



(there's a translated version of his book)

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Re: Phil Heath Talks About Too Much Protein
« Reply #32 on: March 24, 2013, 10:49:47 AM »
i dont think these authors work for the carbohydrate farming business


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Re: Phil Heath Talks About Too Much Protein
« Reply #33 on: March 24, 2013, 10:51:57 AM »
awkward timining with Phil Heath making fun of dead bodybuilders. As if this isn't a real problem.  ::)

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Re: Phil Heath Talks About Too Much Protein
« Reply #34 on: March 24, 2013, 10:58:53 AM »
awkward timining with Phil Heath making fun of dead bodybuilders. As if this isn't a real problem.  ::)
very awkward

when was this video shot

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Re: Phil Heath Talks About Too Much Protein
« Reply #35 on: March 24, 2013, 11:02:35 AM »
I hate the "different strokes for different folks" morons. End of the day there are differences between us, but we are all essentially the same. You can adjust things based on one's needs, sure, but taking in the amounts the pros take in is literally stupid.

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Re: Phil Heath Talks About Too Much Protein
« Reply #36 on: March 24, 2013, 11:04:17 AM »
I hate the "different strokes for different folks" morons. End of the day there are differences between us, but we are all essentially the same. You can adjust things based on one's needs, sure, but taking in the amounts the pros take in is literally stupid.
it's taking the easy way out of a discussion you dont want to participate in

i do this when morons ask me things

like mike mentzer said

"if we were all different medical science wouldnt be able to exist"


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Re: Phil Heath Talks About Too Much Protein
« Reply #37 on: March 24, 2013, 11:07:41 AM »
very awkward

when was this video shot

don't know. But generally speaking, Phil should know that he could himself die easily before 50 like Nasser. He won't be laughing in the coffin.

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Re: Phil Heath Talks About Too Much Protein
« Reply #38 on: March 24, 2013, 11:12:26 AM »
it's taking the easy way out of a discussion you dont want to participate in

i do this when morons ask me things

like mike mentzer said

"if we were all different medical science wouldnt be able to exist"


 ::)

Mike was right. It's appreciating the fact that we all have our subtle differences, but it's across a spectrum that will always be populated largely by the "average man", thus they are the one's you factor in to your studies first and then tweak things based on the extremes at either end of the spectrum.

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Re: Phil Heath Talks About Too Much Protein
« Reply #39 on: March 24, 2013, 11:14:44 AM »
Mike was right. It's appreciating the fact that we all have our subtle differences, but it's across a spectrum that will always be populated largely by the "average man", thus they are the one's you factor in to your studies first and then tweak things based on the extremes at either end of the spectrum.
yes i agree with the mentzer quote

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Re: Phil Heath Talks About Too Much Protein
« Reply #40 on: March 24, 2013, 11:18:00 AM »

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Re: Phil Heath Talks About Too Much Protein
« Reply #41 on: March 24, 2013, 11:41:45 AM »

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Re: Phil Heath Talks About Too Much Protein
« Reply #42 on: March 24, 2013, 11:41:54 AM »
I take a whey protein supplement but I do wonder if I'm wasting money. The magazines need to push the protein requirement. Just look at all the protein powder ads. I use to take one in the morning with breakfast and one after working out. Now it's just once after the workout.

Is it really one gram a day? While not bodybuilders but insane athletes, Kenyan marathoners train on grains, vegetables, fruit and only on special occasions meat. I doubt they get 50 grams of protein yet they can run 20 miles a day training at insane paces.

When ever I read what looks like a legit study on protein requirements using protein in and protein used it's always along the same thing Mentzer and Jones pushed back in the day.

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Re: Phil Heath Talks About Too Much Protein
« Reply #43 on: March 24, 2013, 12:00:51 PM »
You don't no shit about nutrition, so STFU obese schmoe
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I said I would like to see him talk, not me.


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Re: Phil Heath Talks About Too Much Protein
« Reply #44 on: March 24, 2013, 12:05:20 PM »
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I said I would like to see him talk, not me.


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Re: Phil Heath Talks About Too Much Protein
« Reply #45 on: March 24, 2013, 12:21:38 PM »
its an embarrassment how in this sport the top guy sites on a garbage stage next to some window blinds hahaha, show some respect

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Re: Phil Heath Talks About Too Much Protein
« Reply #46 on: March 24, 2013, 12:26:59 PM »
I'm so tired of people saying that standard A-frame chair has more width than the reigning Mr Olympia.   I'm just so sick of it.

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Re: Phil Heath Talks About Too Much Protein
« Reply #47 on: March 24, 2013, 12:28:55 PM »

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Re: Phil Heath Talks About Too Much Protein
« Reply #48 on: March 24, 2013, 12:40:56 PM »
Maybe thats why people on zero carb diets are fucking stupid.

Touché

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Re: Phil Heath Talks About Too Much Protein
« Reply #49 on: March 24, 2013, 01:25:48 PM »