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Re: Phil Heath Talks About Too Much Protein
« Reply #50 on: March 24, 2013, 01:37:20 PM »
I can't judge a book by its cover  ;)
When I read a book/article/scientific paper, I'm looking for logic arguments and want to know more about the 'agenda' of the author(s). For example, does he/she works for the industry or a publicly-funded university?
To me, Walter Willett is one of the few trustworthy nutrition scientists. He criticizes the food & supp industry and the over-consumption of certain nutrients.



(there's a translated version of his book)


I enjoyed that video. Did I hear him say that a calorie is not a calorie there in the end? :)

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Re: Phil Heath Talks About Too Much Protein
« Reply #51 on: March 24, 2013, 01:44:53 PM »

this looks photoshopped

a regular guy with the arms of a top pro

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Re: Phil Heath Talks About Too Much Protein
« Reply #52 on: March 24, 2013, 01:45:20 PM »
In this day and age drugs, not genetics, not willpower, not tenacity, not training and eating "right", make the bodybuilder.

Phil heath thinks it's ignorant to believe he uses steroids.


SLAM: What do you say to people who accuse you of using steroids?

PH: When they ask me that, I ask, Why dude, you think I need to? I think that’s just common ignorance. Usually, people that do that are insecure already so they think that’s the only way I got like that. And what people have to focus on is, ‘What is he doing to get himself like that?’ They don’t wanna ask. If it was that easy, everybody would be good. So it has to be more than that. And we’ve all see multiple athletes. Are you seriously gonna discount that I get up at 4:30 every morning and go do 45 minutes of cardio. They don’t realize I eat seven or eight times a day of healthy food. Most people couldn’t tell me the macros that are in every meal they take throughout the day. Because the average person doesn’t do it. They’re not gonna know how healthy fats work and guess what? I get paid to do this. Has anyone ever known someone that could just look at a weight and grow? No. Sure, I’m genetically gifted, but what if someone genetically gifted like me, took that talent and became educated about nutrition and given the money and resources to do it? You’d look like me too. My job is to weight lift. I train with best equipment. I get more treatment on my body than the average football player. Acupuncture four days a week, massage one to two days a week, I get chiropractic work, I get decompression people don’t even know what the hell that is, which is elongating the spinal cord and vertebrae. They don’t educate themselves on the process. I have an infrared sauna at my house to eliminate toxins and hyperbaric chamber in my house. Just all the things I mentioned.

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Re: Phil Heath Talks About Too Much Protein
« Reply #53 on: March 24, 2013, 01:48:40 PM »
Phil heath thinks it's ignorant to believe he uses steroids.


SLAM: What do you say to people who accuse you of using steroids?

PH: When they ask me that, I ask, Why dude, you think I need to? I think that’s just common ignorance. Usually, people that do that are insecure already so they think that’s the only way I got like that. And what people have to focus on is, ‘What is he doing to get himself like that?’ They don’t wanna ask. If it was that easy, everybody would be good. So it has to be more than that. And we’ve all see multiple athletes. Are you seriously gonna discount that I get up at 4:30 every morning and go do 45 minutes of cardio. They don’t realize I eat seven or eight times a day of healthy food. Most people couldn’t tell me the macros that are in every meal they take throughout the day. Because the average person doesn’t do it. They’re not gonna know how healthy fats work and guess what? I get paid to do this. Has anyone ever known someone that could just look at a weight and grow? No. Sure, I’m genetically gifted, but what if someone genetically gifted like me, took that talent and became educated about nutrition and given the money and resources to do it? You’d look like me too. My job is to weight lift. I train with best equipment. I get more treatment on my body than the average football player. Acupuncture four days a week, massage one to two days a week, I get chiropractic work, I get decompression people don’t even know what the hell that is, which is elongating the spinal cord and vertebrae. They don’t educate themselves on the process. I have an infrared sauna at my house to eliminate toxins and hyperbaric chamber in my house. Just all the things I mentioned.

From what I read, Heath thinks people are ignorant for thinking steroids are the sole/primary reason he looks the way he does.

They discount all the other stuff he does (as do many on this forum). They think they're simply a syringe away from a Sandow.

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Re: Phil Heath Talks About Too Much Protein
« Reply #54 on: March 24, 2013, 01:49:25 PM »
LOL^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


get up at 4:30 to do cardio, sleep the rest of the day


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Re: Phil Heath Talks About Too Much Protein
« Reply #55 on: March 24, 2013, 01:51:13 PM »
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They discount all the other stuff he does (as do many on this forum). They think they're simply a syringe away from a Sandow.
TBH all the Mr Os are a syringe away from a Sandow.

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Re: Phil Heath Talks About Too Much Protein
« Reply #56 on: March 24, 2013, 01:52:19 PM »
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I get decompression people don’t even know what the hell that is, which is elongating the spinal cord and vertebrae.
Shame it doesn't work on the scapula.

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Re: Phil Heath Talks About Too Much Protein
« Reply #57 on: March 24, 2013, 01:52:51 PM »
From what I read, Heath thinks people are ignorant for thinking steroids are the sole/primary reason he looks the way he does.

They discount all the other stuff he does (as do many on this forum). They think they're simply a syringe away from a Sandow.

no people do not say steroids are the only reason they are what they are

this is how the bbers twist the question

same old story

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Re: Phil Heath Talks About Too Much Protein
« Reply #58 on: March 24, 2013, 01:59:05 PM »
i dont know, he is very highly educated on nutrition????.............

not sure what to think of any of this to be honest


i also read this book, and it was pretty much the same



The covers look like they are from the nineties lol. Sure they're recent?

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Re: Phil Heath Talks About Too Much Protein
« Reply #59 on: March 24, 2013, 01:59:54 PM »
i got that susan kleiner book "power eating" many years ago.  

mostly it encourages you to make peanut butter + milk shakes and drink them all day.

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Re: Phil Heath Talks About Too Much Protein
« Reply #60 on: March 24, 2013, 02:00:48 PM »
The covers look like they are from the nineties lol. Sure they're recent?
you think there have been spectacular advancements in nutritional science since then?

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Re: Phil Heath Talks About Too Much Protein
« Reply #61 on: March 24, 2013, 02:04:03 PM »
you think there have been spectacular advancements in nutritional science since then?

i'm still convinced that it's just basically calories in vs. calories out, but the thing that's driving me kinda nuts is how much protein is really needed ???

i had a pretty smart and experienced guy tell me that one only needs 100 protein grams per day while dieting in order to not lose fat

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Re: Phil Heath Talks About Too Much Protein
« Reply #62 on: March 24, 2013, 02:06:46 PM »
you think there have been spectacular advancements in nutritional science since then?

Naw, I think the cavemen had it right and then everything was overcomplicated.

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Re: Phil Heath Talks About Too Much Protein
« Reply #63 on: March 24, 2013, 02:07:41 PM »
Naw, I think the cavemen had it right and then everything was overcomplicated.
heh..... but they died at 30

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Re: Phil Heath Talks About Too Much Protein
« Reply #64 on: March 24, 2013, 03:29:27 PM »
don't know. But generally speaking, Phil should know that he could himself die easily before 50 like Nasser. He won't be laughing in the coffin.

You don't see that many pro bodybuilders dropping dead, but there's a lot of them with organs related problems..... But is just like the steroids they take, they won't mention it.

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Re: Phil Heath Talks About Too Much Protein
« Reply #65 on: March 24, 2013, 03:51:57 PM »
LOL^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


get up at 4:30 to do cardio, sleep the rest of the day



So true...This Phil guy thinks getting up at 4:30am and walking on a treadmill at 3.0 like most of the middle aged old ladies is doing cardio. lol

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Re: Phil Heath Talks About Too Much Protein
« Reply #66 on: March 24, 2013, 03:55:18 PM »
You don't see that many pro bodybuilders dropping dead, but there's a lot of them with organs related problems..... But is just like the steroids they take, they won't mention it.

The ones that stay heavy after organ problems and cancer are the real mentally ill fella's...They just can't handle being skinny/thin because their life revolved around being big. I believe it was Nassar who said he'd rather be dead than small.

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Re: Phil Heath Talks About Too Much Protein
« Reply #67 on: March 24, 2013, 04:07:52 PM »
He has to say that because he is in the industry with sponsors of selling protein supplements. You can never take a sponsored man's information seriously.

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Re: Phil Heath Talks About Too Much Protein
« Reply #68 on: March 24, 2013, 04:22:15 PM »
Bagels & orange juice...  ::) has that 'scientist' any knowledge of the glycaemic index and the effect on insulin levels?

Glycemic index is irrelevant unless you're diabetic.

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Re: Phil Heath Talks About Too Much Protein
« Reply #69 on: March 24, 2013, 04:34:24 PM »
Glycemic index is irrelevant unless you're diabetic.

Tell that to this kid ::)



Some figures...


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Re: Phil Heath Talks About Too Much Protein
« Reply #70 on: March 24, 2013, 09:57:33 PM »
diabetics dont rreally use the glycemic index either to manage their condition

i think the whole thing is outdated or something

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Re: Phil Heath Talks About Too Much Protein
« Reply #71 on: March 24, 2013, 10:13:09 PM »
I think having one or two lower protein days a week might not be a bad idea.

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Re: Phil Heath Talks About Too Much Protein
« Reply #72 on: March 24, 2013, 11:41:46 PM »
The reason theres a big push on protein is because its hard to eat 400mgs of protein a day, easy though to drink it.

Hence buy all this shite powder.

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Re: Phil Heath Talks About Too Much Protein
« Reply #73 on: March 24, 2013, 11:48:57 PM »
400 grams per day? shit man! it's a real pain in the ass to even get 200 grams per day only from food sources (especially when on a diet)

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Re: Phil Heath Talks About Too Much Protein
« Reply #74 on: March 25, 2013, 12:28:43 AM »
my bodyweight is 84kg(185 lbs), and take about 100-120 grams protein per day only.
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