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« on: March 24, 2013, 02:08:47 PM »

By Tom Rogan | The Week Sat, Mar 23, 2013

Even the politically incorrect liberal knows that taxes on the rich have gotten out of hand

For all of the Republican Party's recent introspection and ideological invigoration, conservatives can't simply look in-house to find solutions. We need to breach the bubble and listen to others. For an unlikely starter: Bill Maher.

Recently, Maher shocked his HBO show's audience (and Rachel Maddow) into silence when he declared that liberals might lose his support. Why? Punitive taxes.

"Liberals, you could actually lose me," Maher said. "It's outrageous what we're paying [in taxes]. Over 50 percent. I'm willing to pay my share, but yeah, it's ridiculous."

This is not just a rich guy whining. These comments represent a growing problem for liberals.

Faced with a choice between smaller government and an expansive government with higher taxes, Americans are increasingly choosing smaller government. It's not hard to see why.

 At the federal level, where the highest tax bracket is nearly 40 percent, the "rich" provide over 70 percent of all income tax revenue. That's a big number.

And it doesn't end there. Consider state taxes. In California, the top rate (on earnings over $1 million) is newly increased from 10.3 percent to 13.3 percent. In New York, similar tax increases have recently been entrenched. High-income residents in these states are now regularly giving more than half of their income to the government.

SEE MORE: Should New York use tax credits to woo Jimmy Fallon and The Tonight Show?

I don't like the easy conservative rhetoric surrounding Marxism. But when you pay more than half your income to the government, that's socialism.

The high-tax lobby likes to pretend that marginal rates have little impact on residency and economic activity. But they're wrong. In the 21st century, capital, especially at high income levels, is highly moveable. And economic opportunity and amenities are diversified across multiple locales. (It's not just New York that has high-end restaurants). As a result, individuals and businesses are deciding to relocate to the place of best return.

 Consider a 2012 study from the Manhattan Institute. Between 1990 and 2010, the five greatest net-loss domestic migration states were California, New York, Illinois, Michigan, and New Jersey. All high-tax, big-union Democratic states with major debt problems.

The five net-gain domestic migration states? Florida, Texas, North Carolina, Georgia, Arizona. All low-tax Republican (or Republican-leaning) states.

 Of course, not all Americans share the foundational conservative aversion to high taxes. After all, taxing the rich offers the ultimate "tax the man behind the tree" scenario. However, when the man moves out from behind the tree (i.e. relocates to Florida or Texas), everything changes. Now someone else has to pay the bill. Take California, where already-high taxes were just increased on those in the $250,000 to $300,000 income bracket. "Rich" is a subjective term and one that begets a confiscatory system without end.

The lesson for conservatives is clear. Across America, the GOP dominates state legislatures. Why? Because when the liberal governance model hits home, it isn't pleasant.

We must offer an alternative. We must show Americans that tax confiscation isn't positive and that it won't end with the rich. Math is a science to which government expenditures must ultimately reconcile. If conservatives don't rise to this challenge, we know where it'll end: With a generation buried in the grave of a bloated, economically stagnant and morally unjust welfare state.

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« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2013, 03:19:26 PM »

LOL so this retard compaigned for obama and the dems. Ranted and raved about how his election was a "mandate to raise taxes" and now he is complaining about high taxes?

what happend to being a patriotic american?

I guess that only works when its someone else your taking money away from.
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« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2013, 04:06:27 AM »

LOL so this retard compaigned for obama and the dems. Ranted and raved about how his election was a "mandate to raise taxes" and now he is complaining about high taxes?

what happend to being a patriotic american?

I guess that only works when its someone else your taking money away from.
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Question- Could Bill Maher have said ANYTHING you could agree with without bashing him? Seriously, I see this all the time between parties. No matter what Bush said, the democrats hammered him, no matter what Obama says, the Republicans hammer him. With this attitude, is there really any hope of a bi partisan government where compromise occurs and things get done? 
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« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2013, 05:08:26 AM »

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Question- Could Bill Maher have said ANYTHING you could agree with without bashing him? Seriously, I see this all the time between parties. No matter what Bush said, the democrats hammered him, no matter what Obama says, the Republicans hammer him. With this attitude, is there really any hope of a bi partisan government where compromise occurs and things get done? 
Lol, fuck no bro. Maher is one of those personalities people love to hate. There is no way that any republican would give him any sort of positive feedback (even if they agreed with what he said).

Im the same way, I agree with what he said but Maher is still a shitbag and I can't stand listening to him at all.
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« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2013, 05:48:23 AM »

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Question- Could Bill Maher have said ANYTHING you could agree with without bashing him? Seriously, I see this all the time between parties. No matter what Bush said, the democrats hammered him, no matter what Obama says, the Republicans hammer him. With this attitude, is there really any hope of a bi partisan government where compromise occurs and things get done?  

Hey Agnostic007!  I would agree with you were Maher a different person.  However, Maher loves to insult, offend and belittle conservatives, Republicans and Christians.  Now he is agreeing with them only because he is rich and doesn't want the government to touch his money.
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« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2013, 05:51:33 AM »

LOL so this retard compaigned for obama and the dems. Ranted and raved about how his election was a "mandate to raise taxes" and now he is complaining about high taxes?

what happend to being a patriotic american?

I guess that only works when its someone else your taking money away from.

Eggxactly!

RICH, LIBERAL, LITTLE WHITE MAN:  "Tax the rich and give it to the poor, but don't you dare touch my f#@%ing money."   Angry

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« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2013, 05:55:16 AM »

Eggxactly!

RICH, LIBERAL, LITTLE WHITE MAN:  "Tax the rich and give it to the poor, but don't you dare touch my f#@%ing money."   Angry

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Or, as the saying goes, conservatives believe rules are for everybody; while, liberals believe rules are for everybody.......ELSE!!!
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« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2013, 10:20:22 AM »

Soundslike old bill listened to conservatives.. Not the other way around.. It's great when liberals like him and whoopi  break ranks from liberals when their money gets taken.. Lol..
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« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2013, 10:37:24 AM »

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sure if he was against big govt and over spending before it started to effect him personally I would have agreed with him and not bashed him one bit.

As it stands now this nit wit campaigned for this and now that he see's exactly how it is effecting him he has changed his tune.
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« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2013, 10:51:04 AM »

sure if he was against big govt and over spending before it started to effect him personally I would have agreed with him and not bashed him one bit.

As it stands now this nit wit campaigned for this and now that he see's exactly how it is effecting him he has changed his tune.

Exactly - Mahr, being in Cali especially, has voted for every single one of these people whose sole intent in life is to jack peoples' taxes.   He needs to STFU 
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« Reply #10 on: March 25, 2013, 11:03:08 AM »

Exactly - Mahr, being in Cali especially, has voted for every single one of these people whose sole intent in life is to jack peoples' taxes.   He needs to STFU 

This is true... It seems that he was on board with the tax more shit a year ago.

What happened Bill?

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« Reply #11 on: March 25, 2013, 11:11:54 AM »

Liberal elitists love the concept of taxes until it hits home. Just look at the shitbags in the Obama regime. They have more people who haven't paid their taxes than I can count. Hasn't stopped them from pushing for more taxes.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2013, 12:02:29 PM »

This is true... It seems that he was on board with the tax more shit a year ago.

What happened Bill?




all i have to say to Bill Maher is

"You think you paid too much taxes in 2012?  Wait until your tax preparer shows you what you're paying for 2013." 

He ain't seen nothing yet. 
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« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2013, 12:04:52 PM »

Mahr and all the other clowns cheered on obamacare, attack conservatives when we call for stopping spread of food stamps, EBT, wic, etc, attack the conservatives for not wanting green this and green that. 

Mahr and his leftist ilk can all fuck off - they voted for this and own it. 
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