...I just looked at that Gunter pic. It's obvious that they photoshopped his knee's veiny mess away, even to a rank amateur! That veiny crap is gross, but Gunter looked good at the O. To tell the truth I think he looked better at the night show for some reason, as the pics from prejudging show he's still a bit thick in the waist...not as bad as usual, but still noticeable.