Zimmerman's brother melts down on Twitter - LMFAO!!!!

[andreisdaman]

LOL you stop and think moron, He saw a young black individual at night walking around in an area that had recently had multiple break ins.

what part of wanting to see where he was going makes zimmerman racist?

youre so prejudiced its not even funny

wanting to see where he is going is one thing..thats fine...everything else was stupid..and racist...calling me a moron doesn't change that...

and your own inference that him seeing a black person in  place where there was a problem with break-ins is racist as well....I guess white guys don't commit break-ins???..also I guess there were no blacks living there huh???

you are such an internet idiot its amazing....

[tu_holmes]

wanting to see where he is going is one thing..thats fine...everything else was stupid..and racist...calling me a moron doesn't change that...

and your own inference that him seeing a black person in  place where there was a problem with break-ins is racist as well....I guess white guys don't commit break-ins???..also I guess there were no blacks living there huh???

you are such an internet idiot its amazing....

It is stupid and racist, but if the story is correct, he didn't assault him first.

[240 is Back]

fuck race. 

It is stupid and racist, but if the story is correct, he didn't assault him first.

If WHOSE story is correct?   Zimmerman's?  LOL... the man with the smoking gun is hardly capable of telling an unbiased version of events.

The evidence - 911 call - shows trayvon running away, and zimmerman with a gun chasing him.  "He's getting away" and "Asshole!" and "Punks always get away with this..."

We don't know who assaulted who first - but we do know who didn't have a gun and ran two blocks to avoid a confrontation. 

And even IF trayvon swung first - he could have been in fear for his life.  If zimmerman chases me two blocks with a gun, you can bet there isn't a conversation when he loops around building to intercept me.  I've run two blocks in the rainy night from armed fat man... i'm scared he's gonna kill me... I fire first to protect my life.

So if trayvon swung to protect himself when busy-body zimmerman comes around corner with gun ton confront him, yes, I swing.

[Soul Crusher]

When Obama was strung out of drugs, coke, chooming, booze and broke he looked like Trayvon 

fuck race. 

If WHOSE story is correct?   Zimmerman's?  LOL... the man with the smoking gun is hardly capable of telling an unbiased version of events.

The evidence - 911 call - shows trayvon running away, and zimmerman with a gun chasing him.  "He's getting away" and "Asshole!" and "Punks always get away with this..."

We don't know who assaulted who first - but we do know who didn't have a gun and ran two blocks to avoid a confrontation. 

And even IF trayvon swung first - he could have been in fear for his life.  If zimmerman chases me two blocks with a gun, you can bet there isn't a conversation when he loops around building to intercept me.  I've run two blocks in the rainy night from armed fat man... i'm scared he's gonna kill me... I fire first to protect my life.

So if trayvon swung to protect himself when busy-body zimmerman comes around corner with gun ton confront him, yes, I swing.

[tu_holmes]

fuck race. 

If WHOSE story is correct?   Zimmerman's?  LOL... the man with the smoking gun is hardly capable of telling an unbiased version of events.

The evidence - 911 call - shows trayvon running away, and zimmerman with a gun chasing him.  "He's getting away" and "Asshole!" and "Punks always get away with this..."

We don't know who assaulted who first - but we do know who didn't have a gun and ran two blocks to avoid a confrontation. 

And even IF trayvon swung first - he could have been in fear for his life.  If zimmerman chases me two blocks with a gun, you can bet there isn't a conversation when he loops around building to intercept me.  I've run two blocks in the rainy night from armed fat man... i'm scared he's gonna kill me... I fire first to protect my life.

So if trayvon swung to protect himself when busy-body zimmerman comes around corner with gun ton confront him, yes, I swing.

You are having to use "if" a lot... That's not how the system works... There will be a lot of "objection your honor... Speculation."

You don't know that he (Trayvon) saw any gun... You have ZERO evidence to that.

What you do have evidence of is that Trayvon was on top of him beating his ass.

Again... and this is the part where people refuse to act rationally and responsibly... including you here... The evidence is that Trayvon was beating him and got shot.

Murder is the charge... He did not MURDER him... He followed him and maybe scared Trayvon, but there will be NO EVIDENCE of MURDER.

If he's found guilty of MURDER, then the system has failed.

Manslaughter I would give him... no problem... but Murder seems a stretch.

[Jack T. Cross]

You are having to use "if" a lot... That's not how the system works... There will be a lot of "objection your honor... Speculation."

You don't know that he (Trayvon) saw any gun... You have ZERO evidence to that.

What you do have evidence of is that Trayvon was on top of him beating his ass.

Again... and this is the part where people refuse to act rationally and responsibly... including you here... The evidence is that Trayvon was beating him and got shot.

Murder is the charge... He did not MURDER him... He followed him and maybe scared Trayvon, but there will be NO EVIDENCE of MURDER.

If he's found guilty of MURDER, then the system has failed.

Manslaughter I would give him... no problem... but Murder seems a stretch.

What would cause you to go for manslaughter, Tu?

[tonymctones]

wanting to see where he is going is one thing..thats fine...everything else was stupid..and racist...calling me a moron doesn't change that...

and your own inference that him seeing a black person in  place where there was a problem with break-ins is racist as well....I guess white guys don't commit break-ins???..also I guess there were no blacks living there huh???

you are such an internet idiot its amazing....

I agree whole heartedly it was stupid.

However calling someone an asshole doesnt make you racist, following someone doesnt make you a racist, calling someone an asshole and then following them doesnt make you a racist.

A no you retard describing the individual as black is a DESCRIPTION!!!

there is nothing racist about calling a black person black....

LMFAO WTF?

If a white or mexican kid had been hanging around outside at night with a hoodie on in an area that was known to have break ins without arrests. You think zimmerman would have just let it go?

Like I said you hold yourself back and the black community more than any modern racism does. Whats sad is that you dont even see it, but one day you will.

[tu_holmes]

What would cause you to go for manslaughter, Tu?

Check out typical definitions of Criminally Negligent Manslaughter (Or criminally Negligent Homicide)

Some jurisdiction use recklessness as a defining item. Zimmerman was certainly reckless.

But it's different depending on the laws in the state... I don't know Florida law specifically.

[Jack T. Cross]

Check out typical definitions of Criminally Negligent Manslaughter (Or criminally Negligent Homicide)

Some jurisdiction use recklessness as a defining item. Zimmerman was certainly reckless.

But it's different depending on the laws in the state... I don't know Florida law specifically.

So you'd say recklessness was shown by following Martin, while knowing that possession of the gun could make this a potentially deadly situation?

[andreisdaman]

It is stupid and racist, but if the story is correct, he didn't assault him first.

the most important word in your post is "if"

[Jack T. Cross]

So here's the idea behind it:

"The unlawful killing of a human being, when perpetrated by any act imminently dangerous to another and evincing a depraved mind regardless of human life, although without any premeditated design to effect the death of any particular individual, is murder in the second degree..."

This places pressure on Zimmerman.

[andreisdaman]

I agree whole heartedly it was stupid.

However calling someone an asshole doesnt make you racist, following someone doesnt make you a racist, calling someone an asshole and then following them doesnt make you a racist.

A no you retard describing the individual as black is a DESCRIPTION!!!

there is nothing racist about calling a black person black....

LMFAO WTF?

If a white or mexican kid had been hanging around outside at night with a hoodie on in an area that was known to have break ins without arrests. You think zimmerman would have just let it go?

Like I said you hold yourself back and the black community more than any modern racism does. Whats sad is that you dont even see it, but one day you will.

so I "hold myself back" because I don't agree with your way-off analysis???...oh brother...I don't see too many white guys in hoodies getting shot accidentally due to misunderstandings

come on and quit the bullshit.......you in your heart know that Trayvon was shot because he was black....his being black set into motion events which wound up costing him his life.....

stop hiding behind your conservative rhetoric, be a man for a change and admit that.....

[Soul Crusher]

so I "hold myself back" because I don't agree with your way-off analysis???...oh brother...I don't see too many white guys in hoodies getting shot accidentally due to misunderstandings

come on and quit the bullshit.......you in your heart know that Trayvon was shot because he was black....his being black set into motion events which wound up costing him his life.....

stop hiding behind your conservative rhetoric, be a man for a change and admit that.....

No - Trayvon was shot because he was scouting the hood for a house to invade.   

[andreisdaman]

No - Trayvon was shot because he was scouting the hood for a house to invade.   

I know you believe this in your heart of hearts...

[240 is Back]

No - Trayvon was shot because he was scouting the hood for a house to invade.  

nope, that's a lie.  he was on a direct path to his GF's home.  

Zimmerman was the one who went in the opposite direction of his house to interfere with the free actions and movement of another person.

[andreisdaman]

nope, that's a lie.  he was on a direct path to his GF's home.  

Zimmerman was the one who went in the opposite direction of his house to interfere with the free actions and movement of another person.

EXACTLY

[Fury]

andreisdadouche is one of the biggest racists on here.

240 is just a lying asshole whose opinion has no credibility as there is no way to discern just how many lies he is telling in any given post.

[tonymctones]

so I "hold myself back" because I don't agree with your way-off analysis???...oh brother...I don't see too many white guys in hoodies getting shot accidentally due to misunderstandings

come on and quit the bullshit.......you in your heart know that Trayvon was shot because he was black....his being black set into motion events which wound up costing him his life.....

stop hiding behind your conservative rhetoric, be a man for a change and admit that.....

I would say that there arent a whole lot of white guys running around at night outside in a neighborhood with multiple break ins with hoodies

youre an idiot b.c you cant fathom a world where black is a descriptive term instead of racism.

[andreisdaman]

I would say that there arent a whole lot of white guys running around at night outside in a neighborhood with multiple break ins with hoodies

youre an idiot b.c you cant fathom a world where black is a descriptive term instead of racism.

I love this argument because you just dig yourself into a deeper hole...your overt racism is amazing!//i love it!..keep it up!

I guess you're not in America so you wouldn't know, but a lot of white guys wear hoodies here..its a fashion thing now

[Soul Crusher]

I love this argument because you just dig yourself into a deeper hole...your overt racism is amazing!//i love it!..keep it up!

I guess since you're not in America so you wouldn't know, but a lot of white guys wear hoodies here..its a fashion thing now

How the F woud you know.   Ony white boys in your hood w hoodies are there to score dope 

[andreisdaman]

How the F woud you know.   Ony white boys in your hood w hoodies are there to score dope 

you never stop do you?.....to think I mean.

[Soul Crusher]

you never stop do you?.....to think I mean.

You know I am right. 

White boys dont wear hoodies unless they are scoring dope or selling

[tu_holmes]

the most important word in your post is "if"

Funny... It's important for the defense but not the prosecution?

Proof is what's required... Of which it does not appear anyone has any either way.

[Jack T. Cross]

The fact that Zimmerman wanted to have Martin questioned, and that he (Zimmerman) was in fact carrying a gun, and that he was directing himself toward Martin, would strongly suggest that Martin was made aware of the gun.  Between the possibility of coming aware of it through some other means, or coming aware of it due to Zimmerman purposefully making him aware of it, it is extremely likely that he became aware of the existence of that gun.

You can take this in further, to make it become almost a certain conclusion that Martin became aware of the gun.

But a jury may choose to reject everything except Zimmerman's words, if a route is left open toward doing that.

[Jack T. Cross]

By the way, meaning to say that Martin became aware of the gun and responded to it by rightfully fighting for what he thought may be his life.