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« Reply #150 on: March 26, 2013, 06:13:58 PM »
I believe he's referring to a fattier cut having more grease after it's cooked
Which is totally irrelevant since we are talking about the composition of the meat. 

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« Reply #151 on: March 26, 2013, 06:14:42 PM »
Some moisture or juices will be lost, but any true fat loss from the meat is negligible

Moisture as in water? very little water by weight.  Juice? What kind orange? or are you talking about fat juice? Come one man anytime you cook a burger that more fat, the more weight you lose after cooking and most of the weight is fat weight and by cooking out the fat you are actually upping the nutritional density of any meat per ounce of weight or any other weight measurement that you are weighing it by.

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« Reply #152 on: March 26, 2013, 06:15:53 PM »
Moisture as in water? very little water by weight.  Juice? What kind orange? or are you talking about fat juice? Come one man anytime you cook a burger that more fat, the more weight you lose after cooking and most of the weight is fat weight and by cooking out the fat you are actually upping the nutritional density of any meat per ounce of weight or any other weight measurement that you are weighing it by.
I don`t think you understand.  If I put Chuck and Sirloin in the pan, its going to come out Chuck and Sirloin when its cooked in the exact same ratio.

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« Reply #153 on: March 26, 2013, 06:17:15 PM »
Right, and the composition of the meat is not changing in any way.  Whatever you cobble together and put in the pan or grill, will still be the same ratio of Lean to Fat when it comes out.

The composition of the meat cooked or uncooked has nothing to do with the fat content.  As far as the black highlight this would be true if you were to pour the grease back on the meat and consume it.

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« Reply #154 on: March 26, 2013, 06:19:21 PM »
I don`t think you understand.  If I put Chuck and Sirloin in the pan, its going to come out Chuck and Sirloin when its cooked in the exact same ratio.

The exact same ratio of what, that is the question. Are you talking beef to fat? I am talking 80/20 uncooked. If you cook this meat you will lose some fat in cooking and therefore you change the meat to fat ratio.

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« Reply #155 on: March 26, 2013, 06:19:38 PM »
Anyone throw down  the Code de Duello circa 1776 yet ???
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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« Reply #156 on: March 26, 2013, 06:21:55 PM »
Anyone throw down  the Code de Duello circa 1776 yet ???

They're getting there.  Give it time.   :D

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« Reply #157 on: March 26, 2013, 06:23:06 PM »
Draining and rinsing fattier ground beef does lower the fat content.  Though when you order a burger in a restaurant they are going to keep that fat in the patty for a better quality burger.  I think we can call a truce on this manner.

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« Reply #158 on: March 26, 2013, 06:24:14 PM »
Anyone throw down  the Code de Duello circa 1776 yet ???
We'll wait on True Adonis for this information.

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« Reply #159 on: March 26, 2013, 06:24:32 PM »
The exact same ratio of what, that is the question. Are you talking beef to fat? I am talking 80/20 uncooked. If you cook this meat you will lose some fat in cooking and therefore you change the meat to fat ratio.
Again, cooking does not change what blend of meat is used to get to whatever ratio, 80/20, 60/40 whatever.

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« Reply #160 on: March 26, 2013, 06:25:15 PM »
Draining and rinsing fattier ground beef does lower the fat content.  Though when you order a burger in a restaurant they are going to keep that fat in the patty for a better quality burger.  I think we can call a truce on this manner.

Agreed, so this brings me to another question. What does McDonalds claim there patties weigh and is this before or after cooking?

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« Reply #161 on: March 26, 2013, 06:26:00 PM »
Again, cooking does not change what blend of meat is used to get to whatever ratio, 80/20, 60/40 whatever.

Not at all what I'm talking about.

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« Reply #162 on: March 26, 2013, 06:31:21 PM »
Agreed, so this brings me to another question. What does McDonalds claim there patties weigh and is this before or after cooking?
All of their weights are based on Pre-Cooking just as every single restaurant does and any place that sells beef or whatever meat. 

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« Reply #163 on: March 26, 2013, 06:33:28 PM »
Agreed, so this brings me to another question. What does McDonalds claim there patties weigh and is this before or after cooking?
When you buy a pound of ground beef in the store do you weigh it after its cooked before you buy it?  Does the label say, "This 16 oz package will cook to X amount of weight".


I think not.

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« Reply #164 on: March 26, 2013, 06:34:57 PM »
Quarter Pounder with Cheese
A quarter pound* of 100% pure beef simply seasoned with a pinch of salt and pepper, two slices of melty cheese, slivered onions and tangy pickles all on a sesame seed bun.

*weight before cooking 4 oz. (113.4g)

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« Reply #165 on: March 26, 2013, 06:35:52 PM »
If you were going to make a 1/4 lb hamburger at home, you would weigh your beef before cooking as well.

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« Reply #166 on: March 26, 2013, 06:44:33 PM »
Thanks TA

Now I feel better when I order a double quarter ponder combo and a Big Mac on the side
For lunch or dinner


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« Reply #167 on: March 26, 2013, 06:49:07 PM »
I wonder how much this quarter pound burger weighs after cooking?

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« Reply #168 on: March 26, 2013, 06:57:16 PM »
And the silicon?
Will it go inside the muscles and give some volume?

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« Reply #169 on: March 26, 2013, 06:58:52 PM »
Being ripped and healthy are two different things.

She's pretty fucking healthy... She'll run you ragged.

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« Reply #170 on: March 26, 2013, 07:02:03 PM »
She's pretty fucking healthy... She'll run you ragged.

I have no doubt. No disrespect towards your daughter.

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« Reply #171 on: March 26, 2013, 07:02:32 PM »
I wonder how much this quarter pound burger weighs after cooking?
???
Why?  There is no point.  The nutrition is calculated already.

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« Reply #172 on: March 26, 2013, 07:05:16 PM »
I have no doubt. No disrespect towards your daughter.

None taken... I am just saying that I believe we have let  the extreme people dictate too much.

If someone eats mcdonalds and they eat too much and they get fat, have heart disease and die, that doesn't mean the food is bad. It means that those people have ZERO self control and will find a way to eat too much of anything.

I know a girl who is literally ORANGE... not from fake tanner or any shit, but because she has eaten SO MANY CARROTS that she has in fact got an ORANGE TINT.

That's eating to an extreme as well.

I'm just saying that people who are going to do something ridiculous will always happen, it's not the food's fault.

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« Reply #173 on: March 26, 2013, 07:11:44 PM »
And the silicon?
Will it go inside the muscles and give some volume?

???
What silicon?

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« Reply #174 on: March 26, 2013, 08:18:21 PM »
???
Why?  There is no point.  The nutrition is calculated already.

Just wondered how much weight from fat would be lost. As far as nutrition goes that would change due to many factors such as digestabilty absorption etc due to cooking.