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Will soar 62% in CA, 80% in OH, WI!
« on: March 27, 2013, 09:09:28 AM »
Actuaries groups offers sobering look at the rising costs for individual insurance coverage plans under Obama health law
UPDATED 22:58 PM EDT, March 26, 2013 | BY John Solomon

One of the nation's premier experts in numbers has a tough diagnosis for President Barack Obama's health care law.

In a report that could prove a big political headache for the administration, the Society of Actuaries estimated Tuesday that insurers will have to pay out an average of 32 percent more for claims on individual health policies under the Affordable Care Act, a cost likely to be passed on to consumers.

While some areas will see declines in medical claims costs, the report predicts the majority of states will see double-digit increases in their individual health insurance markets, where people purchase coverage directly from insurers rather than get coverage from employers.

By 2017, the estimated increase would be 62 percent for California, about 80 percent in Ohio and Wisconsin, more than 20 percent for Florida and 67 percent for Maryland. Much of the reason for the higher claims costs is that sicker people are expected to join the pool, the report said.

The report did not make similar estimates for employer plans, the mainstay for workers and their families. That's because the primary impact of Obama's law is on people who don't have coverage through their jobs.

The report also predicts the law will reduce the number of Americans without health insurance from 16.6 percent to between as low as 6.6 percent after three years.

http://www.washingtonguardian.com/study-health-overhaul-raise-claims-cost-32-pct-1

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Re: Will soar 62% in CA, 80% in OH, WI!
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2013, 09:47:47 AM »
Awesome, can't wait!

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Re: Will soar 62% in CA, 80% in OH, WI!
« Reply #2 on: March 27, 2013, 10:43:06 AM »
Obama lied


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Re: Will soar 62% in CA, 80% in OH, WI!
« Reply #3 on: March 27, 2013, 12:14:59 PM »
File this in the "WE TOLD YOU SO!" bin.

Let's see the Obama worshippers hem and haw their way out of this one.

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Re: Will soar 62% in CA, 80% in OH, WI!
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2013, 12:47:31 PM »
Can an objective person give me a real point of view on why this is? Can it be done without finger pointing at Obama?

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« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2013, 12:48:15 PM »
Can an objective person give me a real point of view on why this is? Can it be done without finger pointing at Obama?

It's called ObamaCare. How could you NOT point the finger at Obama?

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« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2013, 12:52:28 PM »
Can an objective person give me a real point of view on why this is? Can it be done without finger pointing at Obama?

It's his baby he gets the blame. 

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Re: Will soar 62% in CA, 80% in OH, WI!
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2013, 02:19:36 PM »
Seriously though, can it not be accomplished without causing this problem?

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Re: Will soar 62% in CA, 80% in OH, WI!
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2013, 02:46:39 PM »
That what happens when the people who actually need health care gets insured.

Before a lot of people was denied insurance simply because they might actually need it.



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Re: Will soar 62% in CA, 80% in OH, WI!
« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2013, 03:18:43 PM »
That what happens when the people who actually need health care gets insured.

Before a lot of people was denied insurance simply because they might actually need it.



People who need it (and have it) will be getting KICKED OFF IT.

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Re: Will soar 62% in CA, 80% in OH, WI!
« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2013, 03:46:02 PM »
People who need it (and have it) will be getting KICKED OFF IT.

It says in the article that the number of uninsured will drop so please explain your post.

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Re: Will soar 62% in CA, 80% in OH, WI!
« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2013, 03:48:23 PM »
This is fine as long as the insurance providers can continue to securitize these policies, thereby enabling me to have all of your grandmas as collateral.

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Re: Will soar 62% in CA, 80% in OH, WI!
« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2013, 03:50:28 PM »
It says in the article that the number of uninsured will drop so please explain your post.

Companies aren't going to eat those costs. They will drop coverage and simply pay the fines.

And if people can't afford them, they will be without insurance yet have to pay fines.

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« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2013, 03:53:53 PM »
Companies aren't going to eat those costs. They will drop coverage and simply pay the fines.

And if people can't afford them, they will be without insurance yet have to pay fines.

So why does the article say the number of uninsured people will drop?