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Liberals = Busted on "Gay Marriage" - LMFAO!!! FNG Liars
« on: March 27, 2013, 07:44:17 PM »
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Re: Liberals = Busted on "Gay Marriage" - LMFAO!!! FNG Liars
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2013, 03:35:53 AM »
Even as Democratic lawmakers rush to announce their support for gay marriage, a look back at the congressional debate over the Defense of Marriage Act in 1996 shows they haven't always championed the rights of same sex couples.
In historic gay marriage arguments before the Supreme Court this week, justices noted comments made by congressional Republicans about DOMA, which bars the federal government from recognizing same-sex marriage. Justice Elena Kagan quoted the House report on the law at the time, which said its purpose was to express "moral disapproval" of homosexuality. She suggested that if lawmakers were "infected" by animus toward an unpopular minority group when they passed the law, it could put DOMA on constitutionally shaky ground.
McClatchy has collected some of the more virulent comments made at the time by Republican lawmakers. But Democrats weren't exactly gay marriage champions at the time either, and while they avoided the rhetoric espoused by their conservative colleagues, few took to the floor to argue that the bill was discriminatory.
Then-Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., spoke against DOMA, saying it was unnecessary and an intrusion into states' rights to define marriage. But he emphasized his own opposition to gay marriage before expressing reservations about the bill.
"I am not for same-sex marriage. I have said that publicly. I would not vote for same-sex marriage," Kerry, now U.S. secretary of state, said.
Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California made a similar point. "I personally believe that the legal institution of marriage is the union between a man and a woman," she said. "But, as a matter of public policy, I oppose this legislation."
Republicans were definitely more forceful in their opposition.
Then-Rep. Tom Coburn of Oklahoma said he and his constituents believe "homosexuality is immoral, that it is based on perversion, that it is based on lust." Coburn was elected to the Senate in 2004.
"Homosexuality has been discouraged in all cultures because it is inherently wrong and harmful to individuals, families and societies," then-Rep. David Funderburk of North Carolina said.
A few lawmakers suggested American civilization would collapse if it accepted homosexuality.
DOMA passed Congress with large, bipartisan support: 85 votes in the Senate and 342 votes in the House. Democratic President Bill Clinton, facing re-election, signed it into law in the middle of the night. (Earlier this month, he disavowed the legislation.) At the time, the vast majority of Americans opposed same-sex marriage.
Seven years later, when Republicans launched an effort to amend the U.S. Constitution to exclude same-sex couples from the definition of marriage, Democrats argued against the move while stressing their belief that marriage should be reserved for heterosexual couples.
In the video from Slate's Dave Weigel, above, Democrats Hillary Clinton and Dick Durbin, who both recently endorsed same-sex marriage, said they were opposed to taking a drastic step of amending the Constitution. But they both elaborately declared their opposition to same-sex marriage, with Clinton praising "the fundamental bedrock principle that it exists between a man and woman going back into the mists of history."
Democrats' position has changed extraordinarily fast since then, with President Barack Obama announcing his own support for gay marriage during the 2012 election campaign and calling for equality for "our gay brothers and sisters" in his inaugural address. Only 10 of the 55 Democratic senators now do not back gay marriage.
Republican lawmakers have been far slower to embrace gay marriage. Rob Portman of Ohio became the first sitting Republican senator to support gay marriage earlier this month, when he revealed in an op-ed that his position changed after his son came out as gay. Alaska Republican Sen. Lisa Murkowski may be next: She said earlier this week that her position is "evolving."
The shift has dovetailed with a dramatic reversal of public opinion on the issue. Recent polls show a majority of Americans support same-sex marriage, compared with less than 30 percent in 1996.

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Re: Liberals = Busted on "Gay Marriage" - LMFAO!!! FNG Liars
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2013, 05:47:28 AM »
hahahaha 17 years ago       times are changing, shit why don't you go back 30 years  :D :D :D :D :D :D  the stupid party

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Re: Liberals = Busted on "Gay Marriage" - LMFAO!!! FNG Liars
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2013, 07:13:47 AM »
How long ago when interracial marriage was illegal and women couldn't vote?

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Re: Liberals = Busted on "Gay Marriage" - LMFAO!!! FNG Liars
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2013, 07:18:31 AM »
How long ago when interracial marriage was illegal and women couldn't vote?
or guns werent the problem but the ppl using the guns?

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Re: Liberals = Busted on "Gay Marriage" - LMFAO!!! FNG Liars
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2013, 07:33:26 AM »
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HUFFINGTON POST EDITORIAL DIRECTOR: 'Comical stampede' of Democrats suddenly support gay marriage

Howard Fineman made light of the throng of Democratic lawmakers who have suddenly come out in favor of same-sex marriage, including some who coincidentally came to the realization that they’d had a change of heart after their reelection last year. “There’s almost a comical stampede on the part of Democrats to get on the right side of this issue,” the Huffington Post’s editorial director said. “There’s a [news] bulletin every five minutes.”

Fineman joked that Democrats should get “decreasing points” for how much longer it takes them to support same-sex marriage following Rob Portman’s (R., Ohio) recent announcement. This week alone, senators Mark Begich (D., Alaska), Claire McCaskill (D., Mo.), Jay Rockefeller (D., W.Va.), Jon Tester (D., Mont.), and Mark Warner (D., Va.) have announced their support for same-sex marriage. Hillary Clinton voiced her support earlier this month as well.




LOLOLOLOL. Will the liberal brigade on this board cannibalize one of their one? Fact of the matter is that this man is 100% right, hahahaha.

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Re: Liberals = Busted on "Gay Marriage" - LMFAO!!! FNG Liars
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2013, 07:37:16 AM »
or guns werent the problem but the ppl using the guns?

Unlike the topics in my statement, guns are not illegal, never have been and both genders can own them.

Other than adding a +1 to your post count, I don't see any other reason for your attempt here.

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Re: Liberals = Busted on "Gay Marriage" - LMFAO!!! FNG Liars
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2013, 07:38:54 AM »
It's funny, really, as the most consistently homophobic group of people in the USA are BLACKS, a democratic voting bloc. Were they not such sheep that voted in line with their white plantation masters, the Dems wouldn't be rushing to embrace gay marriage so "suddenly".

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Re: Liberals = Busted on "Gay Marriage" - LMFAO!!! FNG Liars
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2013, 07:40:51 AM »
Unlike the topics in my statement, guns are not illegal, never have been and both genders can own them.

Other than adding a +1 to your post count, I don't see any other reason for your attempt here.
actually in the past decades many guns have been made illegal or restricted...try again...

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Re: Liberals = Busted on "Gay Marriage" - LMFAO!!! FNG Liars
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2013, 08:18:53 AM »
The new buzz word in poli-speak is evolving.  They arent flip floping. Their positions are evolving.  Politically expedient is more like it.  Kind of like McCain and immigration.  Either way, I see no reason for homos to be prevented from marrying.
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Re: Liberals = Busted on "Gay Marriage" - LMFAO!!! FNG Liars
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2013, 02:47:07 PM »
...waiting for a few regular posters here to 'evolve'
until then, their posts are entertaining.
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Re: Liberals = Busted on "Gay Marriage" - LMFAO!!! FNG Liars
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2013, 07:13:34 PM »

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Re: Liberals = Busted on "Gay Marriage" - LMFAO!!! FNG Liars
« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2013, 07:15:01 PM »
Why can't we just ask ourselves: WHAT WOULD OUR GRANDPARENTS DO?





I want to live in the 1950's...  :(

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Re: Liberals = Busted on "Gay Marriage" - LMFAO!!! FNG Liars
« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2013, 07:55:42 PM »
Never thought that Russia would be so dead on correct on an issue and USA would be stuck on stupid.



http://rt.com/politics/gay-couples-report-foreign-973/
Putin orders ban on adoptions by foreign same-sex couples – report
President Putin is against the adoption of Russian orphans by foreign same-sex couples, Russian media reveal. The government and the Supreme Court have reportedly been requested to come up with amendments to the law by July 1.

Most likely the order will be fulfilled by the Ministry of Education and Science, which deals with issues concerning orphans and adoptions, according to Izvestia daily. But the ministry says it has not yet received instructions on the matter.

Tensions over the issue arose in mid-February, after the French National Assembly approved a sweeping bill to legalize gay marriage and allow same-sex couples to adopt children.

Soon after that children’s rights ombudsman Pavel Astakhov vowed he would do everything possible to ensure that Russian orphans are only adopted by traditional, heterosexual families.


In February, the Russian Foreign Ministry reported that it planned to verify the possible “psychological damage” inflicted on Russian orphan Yegor Shabatalov.The boy was adopted by an American woman, who lived in a same-sex marriage with another US citizen. However, she concealed her relationship from Russian authorities when she filed the adoption request.

Two years after adopting the boy, the couple split and started a legal dispute over parental rights. Such a relationship is “rather questionable from the point of view of morality” and the child got drawn into this row, observed Russian Foreign Ministry's Commissioner for Human Rights Konstantin Dolgov.

Some Russians however say that banning adoptions by same-sex couples is a half measure.  The head of the ‘All-Russian Parents’ Assembly’ movement, Nadezhda Khramova, says a total ban of foreign adoptions would be a smarter move, as “it is technically difficult to verify the adoptive parents’ sexual orientation and their legal status can be a marriage of convenience”.

Meanwhile, Nikolay Alekseyev – Russian Gay rights activist, the leader of the LGBT community – doubts Putin’s idea will have any serious consequences.

“It’s purely a political move aimed to show that the government is consistent in its decisions,” he told Izvestia.

Adoption issues have been in the spotlight for several months, following the government’s decision to ban US citizens from adopting Russian children under the so-called ‘Dima Yakovlev’ law, which came into force in January.

The controversial document split Russian society, as opponents claim that it cut of many orphans from the prospect of a better life – especially those with health problems. Critics said the government was using society’s most disadvantaged children as political pawns as the prohibition on adoption was introduced as a response to the US Magnitsky Act, which banned some Russian officials from travelling to America.

Two separate rallies were staged in Moscow by supporters and opponents of the law.

The main sponsor of the Dima Yakovlev law, MP Yekaterina Lakhova, earlier drew public attention to French adoptions, claiming that only traditional families can offer their children a proper upbringing.

“A child should have a mother and a father, rather than two mothers or two fathers,” she inveighed.

However, she said, the introduction of new regulations would take a while and no one should expect the ban to immediately come into effect.

The Russian Family Code does not allow same-sex marriage, making adoption by same sex-couples impossible. Adoption by unmarried individuals is technically possible; authorities do not require future parents to present proof of their sexual orientation.

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Re: Liberals = Busted on "Gay Marriage" - LMFAO!!! FNG Liars
« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2013, 10:38:01 PM »
Why can't we just ask ourselves: WHAT WOULD OUR GRANDPARENTS DO?





I want to live in the 1950's...  :(
b/c to todays "progressives" our grandparents were "racists, homophobes"...

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Re: Liberals = Busted on "Gay Marriage" - LMFAO!!! FNG Liars
« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2013, 11:57:31 PM »
b/c to todays "progressives" our grandparents were "racists, homophobes"...

People today are arrogant douche bags that think they have everything figured out.  >:(

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Re: Liberals = Busted on "Gay Marriage" - LMFAO!!! FNG Liars
« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2013, 07:23:23 AM »
b/c to today's "progressives" our grandparents were "racists, homophobes"...

by today's standards if they grew up in the south in the 50's and 60's  chances are good they were racists,times change, just like for gays now.you can be on the right side of history or the wrong side that's your choice

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Re: Liberals = Busted on "Gay Marriage" - LMFAO!!! FNG Liars
« Reply #17 on: April 03, 2013, 04:18:45 PM »
Why can't we just ask ourselves: WHAT WOULD OUR GRANDPARENTS DO?





I want to live in the 1950's...  :(
as long as you are married white male life was wonderful in the 50's.
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