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us citizens sold out
« on: March 28, 2013, 09:41:57 AM »
The people of the USA have been sold out in almost every way.

Sold out to the pharmaceutical industry, insurance industry, prison industrial complex.

Bled for every dime of taxes. Living in a police state. About half the people in the USA are poor, desperate and ready to snap.

Still, lots of retarded Americans say they have "freedom".

Where is this freedom?

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Re: us citizens sold out
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2013, 09:58:03 AM »
The people of the USA have been sold out in almost every way.

Sold out to the pharmaceutical industry, insurance industry, prison industrial complex.

Bled for every dime of taxes. Living in a police state. About half the people in the USA are poor, desperate and ready to snap.

Still, lots of retarded Americans say they have "freedom".

Where is this freedom?
With the exception of taxes (which I don`t entirely agree with), one does not have to participate in any of the above.

Tell me, which country has more freedom than the United States?

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« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2013, 10:02:00 AM »
Don't be bitter Tiger, life is what you make of it.  I'd say the USA is pretty damn sweet.  I have a great job, house, family, vacations, etc.  I honestly don't think my life could be much better at the moment.  I have as much freedom as I want.  I don't like the taxes either, but it's the nature of the beast.  If you want govt provided services, then you have to pay them.   :D

Tiger, my advice would be to work a little harder at life, and see where that gets you.

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Re: us citizens sold out
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2013, 10:09:59 AM »
I don't think most people even want to be free, whatever the fuck that means.

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« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2013, 10:14:13 AM »
Don't be bitter Tiger, life is what you make of it.  I'd say the USA is pretty damn sweet.  I have a great job, house, family, vacations, etc.  I honestly don't think my life could be much better at the moment.  I have as much freedom as I want.  I don't like the taxes either, but it's the nature of the beast.  If you want govt provided services, then you have to pay them.   :D

Tiger, my advice would be to work a little harder at life, and see where that gets you.
Other places are only good for vacationing.  Whats amusing to me is that in almost every other country, the people just are not very nice at all.  They will NEVER talk to strangers, ask how you are doing or any of that.  They see it as totally strange to talk to the supermarket checkout lady or helping the old guy load his car or whatever.  Instead, they just walk by, keep to their-selves and pretend nobody exists.  Its like the bystander effect X 20 and this is just normal every day life for Europeans.  They aren`t really that friendly.

Come to the United States, at least in the South, its a totally different mind set.  Anytime a European visits, they can`t get over how accepting and nice people are, how friendly and willing to help complete strangers.  That idea is alien to them.

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Re: us citizens sold out
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2013, 10:14:28 AM »
I hear what you guys are saying, but just look around at america. A LOT of people are getting screwed here, that's why the US is such a crime infested place. That's why there is a huge criminal subculture.

Personally, I am doing good in life. But everyday I see poor, angry, frustrated people everywhere. Just because my life is ok that doesn't mean I will ignore the misery and hopelessness I see around me every day.

Like gh 15 said, most Americanos don't give a shit about what's happening outside their own living room.

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« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2013, 10:17:53 AM »
Hi, YAGR :D

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« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2013, 10:19:06 AM »
I hear what you guys are saying, but just look around at america. A LOT of people are getting screwed here, that's why the US is such a crime infested place. That's why there is a huge criminal subculture.

Personally, I am doing good in life. But everyday I see poor, angry, frustrated people everywhere. Just because my life is ok that doesn't mean I will ignore the misery and hopelessness I see around me every day.

Like gh 15 said, most Americanos don't give a shit about what's happening outside their own living room.
That is simply just not true.  

I don`t think America is a crime infested place. The overwhelming majority of it is safer than anywhere in the world.  Most of the United States is rural you know.  Crime is committed largely by certain groups of people in cities.  Its mostly localized to certain areas and is not prevalent if you take the entire United States as a whole in context.  

The best thing you can do to help is to encourage stupid people not to breed.  Champion abortion and petition your Congressman to support giving out tax incentives or some other incentive to NOT have children.

Abortion has been the most effective tool to reduce crime in the long run and nothing else comes close.

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Re: us citizens sold out
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2013, 10:20:09 AM »
Other places are only good for vacationing.  Whats amusing to me is that in almost every other country, the people just are not very nice at all.  They will NEVER talk to strangers, ask how you are doing or any of that.  They see it as totally strange to talk to the supermarket checkout lady or helping the old guy load his car or whatever.  Instead, they just walk by, keep to their-selves and pretend nobody exists.  Its like the bystander effect X 20 and this is just normal every day life for Europeans.  They aren`t really that friendly.

Come to the United States, at least in the South, its a totally different mind set.  Anytime a European visits, they can`t get over how accepting and nice people are, how friendly and willing to help complete strangers.  That idea is alien to them.


Yeah they are all miserable fucks like this guy

I don't think most people even want to be free, whatever the fuck that means.

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« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2013, 10:24:41 AM »
I hear what you guys are saying, but just look around at america. A LOT of people are getting screwed here, that's why the US is such a crime infested place. That's why there is a huge criminal subculture.

This is completely incorrect, and the wrong mindset to have.  Nobody, I repeat, nobody is getting screwed.  If a person's life is shitty, it's their own doing (with the exception of folks who have debilitating diseases and such).  Everyone has the same opportunities as everyone else.  It's all up to the individual what they do with their life. 

Even if a person is born into a shitty, poverty stricken life, that doesn't mean they have to accept it.  They can change.   :D

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Re: us citizens sold out
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2013, 10:25:27 AM »
That is simply just not true.  

I don`t think America is a crime infested place. The overwhelming majority of it is safer than anywhere in the world.  Most of the United States is rural you know.  Crime is committed largely by certain groups of people in cities.  Its mostly localized to certain areas and is not prevalent if you take the entire United States as a whole in context.  

The best thing you can do to help is to encourage stupid people not to breed.  Champion abortion and petition your Congressman to support giving out tax incentives or some other incentive to NOT have children.

Abortion has been the most effective tool to reduce crime in the long run and nothing else comes close.
Most of the miserable people in the USA are the product of their environment. They were not born inept and stupid. They just got screwed by US capitalism until they gave up hope and became degenerates.

All the trashy people in america were created by the system. They were not born that way.

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Re: us citizens sold out
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2013, 10:28:40 AM »
This is completely incorrect, and the wrong mindset to have.  Nobody, I repeat, nobody is getting screwed.  If a person's life is shitty, it's their own doing (with the exception of folks who have debilitating diseases and such).  Everyone has the same opportunities as everyone else.  It's all up to the individual what they do with their life. 

Even if a person is born into a shitty, poverty stricken life, that doesn't mean they have to accept it.  They can change.   :D

Total bull shit.

You're saying someone raised in a broken home with no money has the same chance as someone raised in a rich home?

You must be a spoiled person who has never seen the truth about poverty and the dark side of life.

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Re: us citizens sold out
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2013, 10:38:58 AM »
Total bull shit.

You're saying someone raised in a broken home with no money has the same chance as someone raised in a rich home?

You must be a spoiled person who has never seen the truth about poverty and the dark side of life.

YAGR, just because your uncles gang raped you, doesn't mean life in America is any less awesome.

So go fuck yourself, drinker of donkey piss.

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« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2013, 10:53:05 AM »
Total bull shit.

You're saying someone raised in a broken home with no money has the same chance as someone raised in a rich home?

You must be a spoiled person who has never seen the truth about poverty and the dark side of life.

Yes, that is exactly what i'm saying.  No, i'm not spoiled at all.  Let me give you a little breakdown of my family history.

My father's parents were extremely poor.  My father grew up on a farm, and went to a rural school.  He and his 5 siblings were the only kids without shoes.  His father was a drunk gambler who died when my father was young from cirrhosis.  He left behind a wife and 6 kids.    
My mother's parents were low income.  Her mother was a stay at home mom, and father worked for Santa Fe railroad as a train lader.
My father joined the military, because it was his only opportunity.  Once he served his time, he got a job at Alcoa working in pot rooms.  He usually worked 40-60 hours a week.  He retired after 38 years of work as a general mechanic at Alcoa.  
My mother worked odd jobs here and there.  Our family was low to middle class.  
My father strove to be more successful than his father, and provide a better life for his family.
I also strove to be better than my father and provide a better life for my family, and i've succeeded.  Nobody gave me shit, i've worked for everything I have.

So, you see, if you set goals, apply yourself, and work hard, you can control your outcome.

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Re: us citizens sold out
« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2013, 10:55:37 AM »
YAGR, just because your uncles gang raped you, doesn't mean life in America is any less awesome.

So go fuck yourself, drinker of donkey piss.

Yes, I am YAGER. If you got a problem with that, you can find me in your Moms bedroom.

But anyway. I just wish Americans would face the truth, instead of all the macho patriotism. Probably won't happen though.

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Re: us citizens sold out
« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2013, 10:56:59 AM »
With the exception of taxes (which I don`t entirely agree with), one does not have to participate in any of the above.

Tell me, which country has more freedom than the United States?
none.
But the OP has a point tho. The rich top % fucks the rest of the people. And everyone just takes it like a old broke down hooker. >:(
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« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2013, 10:59:11 AM »
none.
But the OP has a point tho. The rich top % fucks the rest of the people. And everyone just takes it like a old broke down hooker. >:(

How are the rich top % fucking the rest of the people?   ???

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« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2013, 11:09:23 AM »
none.
But the OP has a point tho. The rich top % fucks the rest of the people. And everyone just takes it like a old broke down hooker. >:(

Exactly. Some people are just too uneducated and lazy to figure it out.

I just travelled all over the USA. Everywhere I went I saw poverty, desperation, homelessness, anger, paranoia, high crime, etc.

It ain't no paradise, that's for sure.

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« Reply #18 on: March 28, 2013, 11:09:49 AM »
Yes, I am YAGER. If you got a problem with that, you can find me in your Moms bedroom.

But anyway. I just wish Americans would face the truth, instead of all the macho patriotism. Probably won't happen though.

You're not YAGR, you're a pretend gimmick of a gimmick.

Now that sucks a lot of cock.

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« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2013, 11:14:32 AM »
norway maybe beats the usa in living standard, yeah.

maybe switzerland does too.

the uk in a way,maybe.

but thats it,usa and western nations have it good.

its just ppl are pussies and feel entitloed to everything.

80% of the world is piss poor in comparo.

when you think the cut in your finger hurts, think of the guy without legs.

the top rich have and always will fuck over the rest,including the not so top rich.until ppl care about wealth and money itll always be like that.dont hold you breath on betterment.
the layer of civilisation is thin,and its ironicaly provided by the things mentioned and complained about in the op
What kind of houses do most people live in countries such as Norway and Switzerland and the UK?  How big are we talking?  :)

I think its disgusting to have to wash your clothes in the kitchen as most Europeans have to do.

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« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2013, 11:16:46 AM »
People in Norway and the UK and Switzerland also don`t own any land whatsoever or have any personal space.

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« Reply #21 on: March 28, 2013, 11:18:39 AM »
Consumer goods are also expensive as shit in Europe.  Then you have VAT tax.  You can`t get away from people either if you want to as everyone lives on top of the other.

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« Reply #22 on: March 28, 2013, 11:23:52 AM »
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Still, lots of retarded Americans say they have "freedom".

Where is this freedom?
Define freedom.

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« Reply #23 on: March 28, 2013, 11:33:05 AM »
Define freedom.

Freedom is being able to live without oppression, live by your own rules, live without an intrusive government, live with a functional economic system.

The problem with the system in the USA is that the poor and working class get fucked hard. But if you are rich in the USA it's a wonderful life.

Almost 3% of Americans are currently locked up. People struggling everywhere. The system in america used to work great. In the past couple decades it's become dysfunctional.

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« Reply #24 on: March 28, 2013, 11:42:32 AM »
The people of the USA have been sold out in almost every way.

Sold out to the pharmaceutical industry, insurance industry, prison industrial complex.

Bled for every dime of taxes. Living in a police state. About half the people in the USA are poor, desperate and ready to snap.

Still, lots of retarded Americans say they have "freedom".

Where is this freedom?

you are a mental midget.


When there are too many people, we automatically, subconsciously feel like something is wrong, something has to be done, at this point we start wars to apply an artificial/natural selection on our own specie; the point is to reequilibrate, balance our number for the survival of the specie as a whole. When someone else dies or kill himself, we feel better because it means less competition for ressources insuring our survival, it means higher chances of survival for ourself; we are animals and only the strongest/smartest survive, those able to adapt and who can envision a better future for themselves and/or offspring, a future that will allow them to dominate instead of being dominated, will find a point to adapt instead of being erased.

Lazy people always get owned by hard working ones. Intelligent people who use their intelligence solely to do less at some point get bored of life too. You have to participate to feel alive, this is why dumb people are often happier than smart ones, at least they re in the flow of life, while smart people lose touch with it.

Anyway, wars are coming, following the soon to happen economic collapse worldwide. And as usual, only the strongest and smartest will survive, adapt. It doesnt necessarely means it will be the richest ones. They ll be able to pay for armed security (police, army) but there is always someone smart coming from the bottom of the pyramid who rise and replace the old masters. The process of "life".

Nowadays there are too many overqualified and unskilled people and not enough jobs. With technological progress we still need less and less people. The problem is overpopulation. And elites import people form the third world to increase their profits/lower salaries.
The system cannot sustain itself, we are all aware of it. Nature will follow its course. When there s not enough ressources for everyone, there is a need to reduce our number.

Be self sufficient, transform paper money into gold/silver, buy ammo and weapons, these basic principles will never cease to prevail over everything else. Basically, believe in God and be humble, figure the bullshits and dont let them corrupt your mind and existence and you ll live while others will fall. Stick with people who genuinely think alike and build the Realm of God on earth, because that's what we ve been designed to do, and every single attempt to not do what we ve been designed to do in the first place by our creator leads to despair and death.