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Re: us citizens sold out
« Reply #25 on: March 28, 2013, 11:42:56 AM »
Freedom is being able to live without oppression, live by your own rules, live without an intrusive government, live with a functional economic system.

The problem with the system in the USA is that the poor and working class get fucked hard. But if you are rich in the USA it's a wonderful life.

Almost 3% of Americans are currently locked up. People struggling everywhere. The system in america used to work great. In the past couple decades it's become dysfunctional.

Again, explain to me how the poor and working class are getting fucked?  What is stopping them from bettering their life?   ???

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« Reply #26 on: March 28, 2013, 11:43:19 AM »
depends.

hold on,lol, ppl dont wash clothes in kitches in europe where have you heard that.lol.

houses in switzerland are most likely the best built worldwide, they all got nuke safe bunkers by law.size is,uhm,plenty.

theres too many factors, switzerland is cool bc theres work for everyone distribution of wealth is kinda fair, for who likes that kinda thing.laws are lenient on some things etc.

uk, housing is shit and too expensive, but economicaly, the govt dont meddle in your affairs too much, good place for self employed small business.

norway is so rich and has so huge suprlus,they pll choose to work less, but its all based on oil,and the climate there sucks.

usa has all of this, all states considered.theyre somewhere equal, hard to compare,really
ever been to rural england?of course they do, so do the swiss.

yeah, vat, is stealing money from ppl, but it gets reinvested in some useful some less useful things.

usa has taxes too, they jsut call it by another name.
Most homes I see have the washing machine in the kitchen in Europe.

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« Reply #27 on: March 28, 2013, 11:51:29 AM »
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exactly,its all relative.

without law,there can be no freedom.
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Re: us citizens sold out
« Reply #28 on: March 28, 2013, 11:51:46 AM »
you sure that isnt the dishwashing machine?

in the uk, yes, washing machines in kitchen,seen that,its typical.

in switzerland, theyre in the basement, but ppl consider it a luxury extra to have it in the flat these days, for some reason ???
I`m sure.


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Re: us citizens sold out
« Reply #29 on: March 28, 2013, 11:53:38 AM »
Our only freedom is to kill instead of being killed, to adapt, survive instead of being erased. That's what we do every day; we develop strategies of survival to either dominate, cooperate, submit or flee. This is the only "freedom" of living beings, wether it's in the vegetal or animal world. Our only freedom is to play by the rules of the world we ve been spawned into.


You re free to create, follow God, or to stay at home doing nothing, in self loathing like many on here. Your choice.

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Re: us citizens sold out
« Reply #30 on: March 28, 2013, 11:57:39 AM »
Again, explain to me how the poor and working class are getting fucked?  What is stopping them from bettering their life?   ???

Start by reading a book about basic economics, then get back to me.

The fact that you even asking this question shows how little you know.

It takes a LOT of studying to learn the truth about economic issues. I can't tell it to you in a paragraph.

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Re: us citizens sold out
« Reply #31 on: March 28, 2013, 12:01:03 PM »
Start by reading a book about basic economics, then get back to me.

The fact that you even asking this question shows how little you know.

It takes a LOT of studying to learn the truth about economic issues. I can't tell it to you in a paragraph.

I don't need to read about economics, I know plenty about it, that's one of the reasons i'm where i'm at today.  Again, just tell me how the rich people are fucking the poor and working class.   ???

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Re: us citizens sold out
« Reply #32 on: March 28, 2013, 12:07:03 PM »
I don't need to read about economics, I know plenty about it, that's one of the reasons i'm where i'm at today.  Again, just tell me how the rich people are fucking the poor and working class.   ???
Some rich people act evil with money and manipulate others, some rich people act benevolent, create jobs for others, arent assholes.
Some poor people are great people, some poor people are assholes with no beliefs.
Money isnt evil by itself, just like everything else it's only a tool, you can do good or bad with it. Money is necessary, it prevents people from killing each others for ressources; instead they work to deserve them. But obviously as usual we failed and a correction is needed.

It's all a matter of faith in the end, of spirituality. There are good and bad people everywhere, and the system is collapsing because there are too many evil people in all layers of our human society, in every single country on earth who abused everything for too long. We re all part of what is happening, and a selection will be made, this is how life works, period. In the end only the good ones will survive and know heaven; eternal rest in peace. We are pieces of a gigantic puzzle , we are nothing and everything at the same time. Never think you are the story, you are just a character in the Story that has been written by something, someone, bigger than the story itself.
You have nothing to fear of what is coming if you stand by God.

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Re: us citizens sold out
« Reply #33 on: March 28, 2013, 12:11:12 PM »
Some rich people act evil with money and manipulate others, some rich people act benevolent, create jobs for others, arent assholes.
Some poor people are great people, some poor people are assholes with no beliefs.
Money isnt evil by itself, just like everything else it's only a tool, you can do good or bad with it. Money is necessary, it prevents people from killing each others for ressources; instead they work to deserve them. But obviously as usual we failed and a correction is needed.

It's all a matter of faith in the end, of spirituality. There are good and bad people everywhere, and the system is collapsing because there are too many evil people in all layers of our human society, in every single country on earth who abused everything for too long. We re all part of what is happening, and a selection will be made, this is how life works, period. In the end only the good ones will survive and know heaven; eternal rest in peace. We are pieces of a gigantic puzzle , we are nothing and everything at the same time. Never think you are the story, you are just a character in the Story that has been written by something, someone, bigger than the story itself.
You have nothing to fear of what is coming if you stand by God.


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Re: us citizens sold out
« Reply #34 on: March 28, 2013, 12:14:36 PM »

Let's see who's the retard;

do you own gold, silver
do you own guns and ammo
do you own farm land and shelter
do you have a family / trustable human support

 ???

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Re: us citizens sold out
« Reply #35 on: March 28, 2013, 12:16:15 PM »
I`m sure.



Haha you picked the tiniest shitties kitchen adam! They dont look like that in Tiptree or Maldon

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« Reply #36 on: March 28, 2013, 12:16:45 PM »
Let's see who se the retard;

do you own gold, silver
do you own guns and ammo
do you own farm land and shelter
do you have a family / human support

 ???

Some.
Enough to start a small war.
Yes.
Yes.

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« Reply #37 on: March 28, 2013, 12:18:56 PM »
Some.
Enough to start a small war.
Yes.
Yes.

 ;D

well then I guess the only thing I have and you don't is Faith then. 

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Re: us citizens sold out
« Reply #38 on: March 28, 2013, 12:19:45 PM »
well then I guess the only thing I have and you don't is Faith then. 
Faith is belief without evidence.  You don`t really need that anyways.

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Re: us citizens sold out
« Reply #39 on: March 28, 2013, 12:19:55 PM »
With the exception of taxes (which I don`t entirely agree with), one does not have to participate in any of the above.

Tell me, which country has more freedom than the United States?

Canada, Holland, Mexico

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« Reply #40 on: March 28, 2013, 12:26:28 PM »
Faith is belief without evidence.  You don`t really need that anyways.
There are evidences I and others see, feel, but that you re obviously not able to see, feel, for some reasons. No wonder you re not able to have kids as a result and find other people's kids "disgusting".
Your "choice" to believe in a cold, cynical, mathematical , "scientifical" world exempt of feelings is jut that, your "choice". Still, it's a "choice" that is programmed , shaped by your genes, childhood and caregivers tho.  So somewhat, it's not even a conscious choice.
I know how far it will get you in the long run so there's nothing remotely interesting to me in that path. Most cold thinking, cold hearted people like you end killing themselves or others. Also I still find it immensely ironical that your first name is... adam and that you...married that poor caroline. Stop being an hypocrit, change your name and stop living in christian built world then.

BTW I never adress you, you always come to me commenting some of my posts, probably looking for help/answers, quite ironical again from a self proclaimed atheist believing in "absurdity" who pretends to know it all.

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« Reply #41 on: March 28, 2013, 12:32:11 PM »
There are evidences I and others see, feel, but that you re obviously not able to see for some reasons. No wonder you re not able to have kids as a result and find other people's kids "disgusting".
Your "choice" to believe in a cold, cynical, mathematical , "scientifical" world exempt of feelings is jut that, your choice.
I know how far it will get you in the long run so there's nothing remotely interesting to me in that path. Most cold thinking, cold hearted people like you end killing themselves or others. Also I still find it immensely ironical that your first name is... adam and that you...married that poor caroline. Stop being an hypocrit, change your name and stop living in christian built world then.

BTW I never adress you, you always come to me commenting some of my posts, probably looking for help/answers, quite ironical again from a self proclaimed atheist believing in "absurdity" who pretends to know it all.

feel and see?  Like what?

I like how religious people with no evidence like to tell athiests to prove God doesn't exist.

It's like me telling you that in my hand I am holding an invisible mini man.  You tell me it's true and I ask you to prove it's not true.  lol.  How can you prove crazy?

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Re: us citizens sold out
« Reply #42 on: March 28, 2013, 12:33:29 PM »
feel and see?  Like what?

I like how religious people with no evidence like to tell athiests to prove God doesn't exist.

It's like me telling you that in my hand I am holding an invisible mini man.  You tell me it's true and I ask you to prove it's not true.  lol.  How can you prove crazy?
Well to me, You are crazy. And to a muslim or buddhist, both of us are crazy. I guess we re all crazy to someone else who has a different system of belief.
The only real thing that matters in the end, is who will survive, tho. One "craziness" has to be above other crazinesses.

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Re: us citizens sold out
« Reply #43 on: March 28, 2013, 12:33:54 PM »
There are evidences I and others see, feel, but that you re obviously not able to see for some reasons. No wonder you re not able to have kids as a result and find other people's kids "disgusting".
Your "choice" to believe in a cold, cynical, mathematical , "scientifical" world exempt of feelings is jut that, your choice.
I know how far it will get you in the long run so there's nothing remotely interesting to me in that path. Most cold thinking, cold hearted people like you end killing themselves or others. Also I still find it immensely ironical that your first name is... adam and that you...married that poor caroline. Stop being an hypocrit, change your name and stop living in christian built world then.

BTW I never adress you, you always come to me commenting some of my posts, probably looking for help/answers, quite ironical again from a self proclaimed atheist believing in "absurdity" who pretends to know it all.
Another bullshit statement based on YOUR faith.  I am one of the most kind hearted people there is and will help anyone out, especially the less fortunate and animals.  What have you ever done for anyone?

You, on the other hand, don`t do anything but moan and complain and hate.  You are the most negative, judgemental and unhappy person here.  How is that Christianity working out for you?  :D

Drown yourself in misery, its what you do best.

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« Reply #44 on: March 28, 2013, 12:36:49 PM »
Another bullshit statement based on YOUR faith.  I am one of the most kind hearted people there is and will help anyone out, especially the less fortunate and animals.  What have you ever done for anyone?

You, on the other hand, don`t do anything but moan and complain and hate.  You are the most negative, judgemental and unhappy person here.  How is that Christianity working out for you?  :D

Drown yourself in misery, its what you do best.

Well it's your choice to be an hypocrit to get attention from others, I prefer to be honest. There's a reason the old saying "Don't judge a book by its cover" exists, mister "kids are disgusting"  ;)

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« Reply #45 on: March 28, 2013, 12:41:59 PM »
Well it's your choice to be an hypocrit to get attention from others, I prefer to be honest. There's a reason the old saying "Don't judge a book by its cover" exists, mister "kids are disgusting"  ;)
What have you ever done for anyone?  Nothing.  You are an immoral and miserable person.  I have never seen one positive post come from you, no words of praise for anybody, no mention of anything you have ever done to help anyone or anything.  All you do is moan, complain and drown yourself in depressed misery.

You are a sick person and I guarantee you that you won`t find anybody on here that disagrees with that. Can I get an Amen?  ;)

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« Reply #46 on: March 28, 2013, 01:06:41 PM »
Another bullshit statement based on YOUR faith.  I am one of the most kind hearted people there is and will help anyone out, especially the less fortunate and animals.  What have you ever done for anyone?

You, on the other hand, don`t do anything but moan and complain and hate.  You are the most negative, judgemental and unhappy person here.  How is that Christianity working out for you?  :D

Drown yourself in misery, its what you do best.

I don't know TA, I think that title goes to E-kul.  Uberman is a close second though.  Hell, it's a toss up really.   :D

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Re: us citizens sold out
« Reply #47 on: March 28, 2013, 01:06:56 PM »
Life is easier now than at any time in our history.  If you don't like your situation, work harder and smarter, just like past generations had to.    

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« Reply #48 on: March 28, 2013, 01:10:49 PM »
Life is easier now than at any time in our history.  If you don't like your situation, work harder and smarter, just like past generations had to.    

Exactly, it's not really hard at all.  Even if your life sucks, and you're poor, you can still do something about it.  Sit down, make a plan, an execute it.  It's not difficult at all.   :D

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Re: us citizens sold out
« Reply #49 on: March 28, 2013, 01:20:24 PM »
Nobody gave me shit, i've worked for everything I have.

You gave yourself your own genes and American citizenship, provided protection for yourself, built your own roads, gained access to your own food supplies, schooled yourself, singlehandedly stabilized the currency you utilize, self-funded your college, birthed your own children at home, are generating investment returns for retirement by yourself, and provide for your own health care independent of any other person or organization?

Impressive, bro. Clearly, the state and society haven't given you shit, context isn't at all determinative of future prospects, and all your success is attributable solely to your person!