us citizens sold out

[Natural Man]

What have you ever done for anyone?  Nothing.  You are an immoral and miserable person.  I have never seen one positive post come from you, no words of praise for anybody, no mention of anything you have ever done to help anyone or anything.  All you do is moan, complain and drown yourself in depressed misery.

You are a sick person and I guarantee you that you won`t find anybody on here that disagrees with that. Can I get an Amen?  

That's all you have? like I care you re so childish it's disapointing,  I get messages in my private box that say that those who need my "advices" find me when they feel like it and I sometimes answer to them. I dont expect more from one of the messageboards I come to to have fun in my spare time. There, you can keep your "I'm the biggest , most popular diva of getbig" trophy, you dumbshit.

Also contrary to you, I dont feel the need to "look" cool while browsing this messageboard, or to make "virtual friends" on the internetz, I always speak my mind whatever the "cost" if i consider something being stupid, wrong, or immature. You on the oposite are all appearance and front, no substance whatsoever. You re just doing your best to sound like a smartass and get exposed by the real ones once in a while, a master bullshiter like there are so many, especially on here. In the land of the blind the one eyed is king they say..

You ve changed your mind on so many topics on here for years it's not even funny. You re pretty good at pretending to be smarter than you are, obviously you re confused when someone gets in your way, and I probably always been the only one on here educated enough to do so, hence your hate bwah bwaa.  

About the "legacy part" (oh boy) "what have you done for anyone" lol.. ok for the laugh... I single handedly destroyed juicers and single family, kids abandonning  fathers for years on here, in front of young naive kids and simultaneously promoted genuine natural physical conditionning, no wonder I got some ennemies, but I never cared much simply because I know my opinion is just the only decent one to have , and all the recent events ("pro bodybuilders" deaths)  have been confirming it. Nowadays it's not rare to see more and more people promote just like I did for years a healthy lifestyle, not solely focused on getting "big muscles" at all costs , promoting a more balanced existence following in my path. Most people on here are gym rats with shity physiques, unnhealthy, with a failed life and families behind them who were luring gullible teens into their pathetic lifestyle to make themselves feel better about their lives. Since I ve been destroying and exposing them, they dont even dare to post anymore. Groink was just another iteration of arvilla for example. I'm pretty proud of that, and the fact that i also explained what a truly fulfiling life for a man is supposed to be. Now it's young people 's choice to pick between the two options. Be a dumb meathead sticking with low lives of his kind or a real hard working family man with a healthy lifestyle and who takes no shortcuts.

We re pretty similar judging only by the fact we re both way more educated than most on here and achieved something lifting weights while most clowns on here never ever lifted a weight in their life in the first place or are on the juice, but it's pretty obvious my opinions about physical conditionning and faith shaped more spirits on here than your stupid calorie is a calorie crappy theory and atheist system of belief that goes nowhere.

You re way too scared to hurt your politically correct, uninspired, cowardly character  to ever bring anything useful to anyone unfortunately, and too flawed, immature and somewhat effeminate intellectually speaking to ever inspire anyone to better themselves spiritually. Stick to giving us kitchen recipes out of the blue and pretending to be a real man ("I own guns too!"   ).

[The True Adonis]

That's all you have? like I care you re so childish it's disapointing,  I get messages in my private box that say that those who need my "advices" find me when they feel like it and I sometimes answer to them. I dont expect more from one of the messageboards I come to to have fun in my spare time.

Contrary to you, I dont feel the need to "look" cool while browsing this messageboard, or to make "virtual friends" on the internetz, I always speak my mind whatever the "cost" if i consider something being stupid, wrong, or immature. You on the oposite are all appearance and front, no substance whatsoever. You re just doing your best to sound like a smartass and get exposed by the real ones once in a while, a master bullshiter like there are so many, especially on here. In the land of the blind the one eyed is king they say..

You ve changed your mind on so many topics on here for years it's not even funny. You re pretty good at pretending to be smarter than you are, obviously you re confused when someone gets in your way, and I probably always been the only one on here educated enough to do so, hence your hate bwah bwaa.  

About the "legacy part" (oh boy) "what have you done for anyone" lol.. ok for the laugh... I single handedly destroyed juicers and single family, kids abandonning  fathers for years on here, in front of young naive kids and simultaneously promoted genuine natural physical conditionning, no wonder I got some ennemies, but I never cared much simply because I know my opinion is just the only decent one to have , and all the recent events ("pro bodybuilders" deaths)  have been confirming it. Nowadays it's not rare to see more and more people promote just like I did for years a healthy lifestyle, not solely focused on getting "big muscles" at all costs , promoting a more balanced existence following in my path. Most people on here are gym rats with shity physiques, unnhealthy, with a failed life and families behind them who were luring gullible teens into their pathetic lifestyle to make themselves feel better about their lives. Since I ve been destroying and exposing them, they dont even dare to post anymore. I'm pretty proud of that, and the fact that i also explained what a truly fulfiling life for a man is supposed to be. Now it's people 's choice to pick between the two options.

We re pretty similar judging only by the fact we re both way more educated than most on here and achieved something lifting weights while most clowns on here never ever lifted a weight in their life in the first place or are on the juice, but it's pretty obvious my opinions about physical conditionning and faith shaped more spirits on here than your stupid calorie is a calorie crappy theory and atheist system of belief that goes nowhere.

You re way too scared to hurt your politically correct, uninspired, cowardly character  to ever bring anything useful to anyone unfortunately, and too flawed, immature and somewhat effeminate intellectually speaking to ever inspire anyone to better themselves spiritually. Stick to giving us kitchen recipes out of the blue and pretending to be a real man ("I own guns too!"   ).

Just as I already knew.  Nothing put a pitiful doom and gloom loser that has never contributed to society or helped anyone out or anything.  Immoral piece of shit you are.

[Tapeworm]

Canada, Holland, Mexico

Aus.  It's 4:30 in the morning and I could just go wander around without fear of being mugged by criminals or harrassed by abusive and paranoid police.  Children walk to school.  I regularly neglect to lock my vehicles and house.  A single gunshot anywhere in the country makes the national news.

[HTexan]

Canada, Holland, Mexico

stop trolling that is total bullshit to the ninth degree

[HTexan]

Exactly. Some people are just too uneducated and lazy to figure it out.

I just travelled all over the USA. Everywhere I went I saw poverty, desperation, homelessness, anger, paranoia, high crime, etc.

It ain't no paradise, that's for sure.

no, most places in the US are very nice. if you got the $$$ it is the best place to live. And if you don't have $$$ it is the best place to gain a better life, if you are willing to work hard for it.

[Twaddle]

You gave yourself your own genes and American citizenship, provided protection for yourself, built your own roads, gained access to your own food supplies, schooled yourself, singlehandedly stabilized the currency you utilize, self-funded your college, birthed your own children at home, are generating investment returns for retirement by yourself, and provide for your own health care independent of any other person or organization?

Impressive, bro. Clearly, the state and society haven't given you shit, context isn't at all determinative of future prospects, and all your success is attributable solely to your person!

The state and society gave me exactly what is given to everyone else.  Nothing less, nothing more.  What you do with it is up to you.
My sister and I were raised the same way, in the same house, by the same parents.  She is a failure.  She has made very poor decisions, and barely scrapes by each month.  I on the other hand chose not to live a life like that, and executed my decision.

[Twaddle]

stop trolling that is total bullshit to the ninth degree

You don't like Mexicans?      

[HTexan]

You don't like Mexicans?      

i love mexicans especially sexy latinas. 
But a place that corrupt were the cartels run the country isn't free.

[deviant]

People in Norway and the UK and Switzerland also don`t own any land whatsoever or have any personal space.

Hmm, where to start?....

I own the land my house is on (UK) and home ownership rates for the US and UK are about the same at 65-70%.

Land is cheap out of town....this is pretty much universal the world over, what is expensive and time consuming is applying for planning permission to build on it in the UK....I don't think the UK is unique in this respect though.

[deviant]

Consumer goods are also expensive as shit in Europe.  Then you have VAT tax.  You can`t get away from people either if you want to as everyone lives on top of the other.

Consumer goods are cheap in the UK.

Cell phones are free on 24 month contracts, laptops cost a couple hundred quid, kitchen goods are ridiculously cheap....TVs, stereos etc are all affordable...the US has a larger economy of scale with regard to these things but in the UK with a 60 million population there is a market plenty big enough to keep prices competitively low.

Regards living space, the UK hasn't done the apartment block thing on a scale like the US has so its a bit rich to make out we live in each others pockets....its only in recent years that apartments have become an acceptable way to live in the UK as historically they have been seen as housing for poor people who couldn't afford a proper house.

[El Diablo Blanco]

i love mexicans especially sexy latinas. 
But a place that corrupt were the cartels run the country isn't free.

Hahaha, but a place run by corrupt government is?

[TigerStripes]

no, most places in the US are very nice. if you got the $$$ it is the best place to live. And if you don't have $$$ it is the best place to gain a better life, if you are willing to work hard for it.

It could be a lot better though. The USA is a great country, but the economy here needs some big reforms. There is too much corruption in certain areas. The middle class is getting shafted in many ways.

Like I said before, I am doing  pretty well myself. But that doesn't mean that I will ignore the problems I see everyday around me. It's a great country, but there are major problems, and the problems are getting worse and worse right now.

It seems like people are afraid to admit the problems here.

[TigerStripes]

Hahaha, but a place run by corrupt government is?

Exactly.

Some people are very oblivious to how the US government works behind the scenes. They just dont know about all the corruption, because they are too uneducated about politics.

It must be very blissful to be so ignorant.

[RC]

 

[HTexan]

Hahaha, but a place run by corrupt government is?

i never said the US wasn't corrupt some places are more corrupt the others. Only a stupid person would think mexico is less corrupt then the US.

Exactly.

Some people are very oblivious to how the US government works behind the scenes. They just dont know about all the corruption, because they are too uneducated about politics.

It must be very blissful to be so ignorant.

poor trolling gimmick.

[Man of Steel]

Yes, that is exactly what i'm saying.  No, i'm not spoiled at all.  Let me give you a little breakdown of my family history.

My father's parents were extremely poor.  My father grew up on a farm, and went to a rural school.  He and his 5 siblings were the only kids without shoes.  His father was a drunk gambler who died when my father was young from cirrhosis.  He left behind a wife and 6 kids.   
My mother's parents were low income.  Her mother was a stay at home mom, and father worked for Santa Fe railroad as a train lader.
My father joined the military, because it was his only opportunity.  Once he served his time, he got a job at Alcoa working in pot rooms.  He usually worked 40-60 hours a week.  He retired after 38 years of work as a general mechanic at Alcoa. 
My mother worked odd jobs here and there.  Our family was low to middle class. 
My father strove to be more successful than his father, and provide a better life for his family.
I also strove to be better than my father and provide a better life for my family, and i've succeeded.  Nobody gave me shit, i've worked for everything I have.

So, you see, if you set goals, apply yourself, and work hard, you can control your outcome.

I can definitely relate.  Growing up the heater on our indoor pool was consistently in disrepair and the steaks we ate oft times weren't properly marbled.  Don't even get me started on the pathetic size of the lobster tails.

[Emmortal]

Other places are only good for vacationing.  Whats amusing to me is that in almost every other country, the people just are not very nice at all.  They will NEVER talk to strangers, ask how you are doing or any of that.  They see it as totally strange to talk to the supermarket checkout lady or helping the old guy load his car or whatever.  Instead, they just walk by, keep to their-selves and pretend nobody exists.  Its like the bystander effect X 20 and this is just normal every day life for Europeans.  They aren`t really that friendly.

Come to the United States, at least in the South, its a totally different mind set.  Anytime a European visits, they can`t get over how accepting and nice people are, how friendly and willing to help complete strangers.  That idea is alien to them.

Thailand is more free and the people there are much nicer than anywhere you will find in the US, the south included.

[Seven Copper Coins]

I don't need to read about economics, I know plenty about it, that's one of the reasons i'm where i'm at today.  Again, just tell me how the rich people are fucking the poor and working class.  

Friend of mine is management at a bread manufacturing plant. They hire temps and immigrants, fuck them out of OT..dont give them the break periods mandated by labor laws, and if anyone barks about it they are gone the next day. Immigration raids the place every three months. The blue collar supervisors on the floor get bonuses for keeping labor hours under a certain number with no dropoff in production...Just one example.

[TigerStripes]

heres one thing noone mentioned,and thats the bottom line i think.

anywhere is god with enough money.

can have very good life even in belgrade if you got money.

law and order and sound govts are huge factors too.you got italian govt doing all kinds of shit and fraud on house owners for example.

so many factors.

That's true. The problem in the USA these days is it's hard for poor people to get ahead.

Rent is ridiculous and too high, many people spend way over half of their money just paying rent. I am lucky because I own property, but if you are stuck paying rent in america you are screwed. So nowadays lots of Americanism just pack into little places with a bunch of roommates.

Hospital costs are insane. A minor trip to the hospital can easily cost thousands and thousands of dollars.  If a person in america gets injured it can totally ruin their whole financial picture.

Same thing with dental, its just unrealistically high. Some dental work can easily cost thousands and thousands of dollars.

You have to have a car in the USA pretty much. That means gas, insurance, etc.

There is a lack of good paying jobs in america. It's all over the news every day.

You add all these things up, and its easy to see why so many people are desperate and angry.

Personally, I dont really like living in a society full of desperate, desperation, angry, broke people. It makes this country worse for all of us.

[Twaddle]

Friend of mine is management at a bread manufacturing plant. They hire temps and immigrants, fuck them out of OT..dont give them the break periods mandated by labor laws, and if anyone barks about it they are gone the next day. Immigration raids the place every three months. The blue collar supervisors on the floor get bonuses for keeping labor hours under a certain number with no dropoff in production...Just one example.

Is the bread plant holding these employees hostage?  Why don't they find a better job?   

[HTexan]

heres one thing noone mentioned,and thats the bottom line i think.

anywhere is god with enough money.

can have very good life even in belgrade if you got money.

http://www.forbes.com/billionaires/list/
true, but look at the billionaire list then ask yourself, " why do most people that could live anywhere choose to live in the US?

[Seven Copper Coins]

Is the bread plant holding these employees hostage?  Why don't they find a better job?   

Really not the point, you asked for an example and i gave you a very clear one. In the real world, you cant just quit your job and get another one in a day, especially if your career options are limited, you may have a criminal record, no transportation, could be a hundred reasons. These people know this and exploit the shit out of the workers.

[King Shizzo]

The people of the USA have been sold out in almost every way.

Sold out to the pharmaceutical industry, insurance industry, prison industrial complex.

Bled for every dime of taxes. Living in a police state. About half the people in the USA are poor, desperate and ready to snap.

Still, lots of retarded Americans say they have "freedom".

Where is this freedom?

People need to pay some form of taxes. How do you think we have public works, and services? How would anything get paid? What the government needs to work on is how they allocate the money.

As far as poor people, most are just lazy people looking for handouts.

[Twaddle]

That's true. The problem in the USA these days is it's hard for poor people to get ahead.
The problem in the USA today is people are fucking lazy, and feel like they should be given everything.

Rent is ridiculous and too high, many people spend way over half of their money just paying rent. I am lucky because I own property, but if you are stuck paying rent in america you are screwed. So nowadays lots of Americanism just pack into little places with a bunch of roommates.
If rent is too high, move to an area where it's not, or move to a city where it's not.

Hospital costs are insane. A minor trip to the hospital can easily cost thousands and thousands of dollars.  If a person in america gets injured it can totally ruin their whole financial picture.
Buy health insurance, it can be had for less than $100 per month.

Same thing with dental, its just unrealistically high. Some dental work can easily cost thousands and thousands of dollars.
Same thing, buy dental insurance.  It's less than $15 per month.

You have to have a car in the USA pretty much. That means gas, insurance, etc.
Buy a motorcycle.  They're cheap, and insurance is $8 per month.

There is a lack of good paying jobs in america. It's all over the news every day.
Keep applying until you find a good paying job.  the good paying jobs don't come to you, you have to go to them.

You add all these things up, and its easy to see why so many people are desperate and angry.
People are desperate and angry because things don't always go their way.  If things aren't the way you like it, you only have yourself to blame.

Personally, I dont really like living in a society full of desperate, desperation, angry, broke people. It makes this country worse for all of us.

[Seven Copper Coins]

LOL...ok, Polyanna. 15 dollar a month dental insurancs, please tell me where i can get REAL dental insurance for that price, I'll sign up my whole family right now.