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« on: March 28, 2013, 02:03:30 PM »

Documentary from Sonali Aggarwal: Starring Afrika Bambaataa, KRS-ONE, Busy Bee, Kool Keith, MC Lyte, Slick Rick, Jean Grae, Gemini and other notable people being part of the Hip Hop movement. It began with the beat of the drum. With the beat, came a voice for those without one. From this voice, came a movement. Overcoming the odds, the originators of Hip Hop took their music from block parties of New York City streets to world wide radio waves. During the early years, the music and message reached new heights by exploring humanity, politics, and street life, while keeping it real and having fun. But what ever happened to Hip Hop? Currently the most pervasive music worldwide, its roots have been forgotten, its message perverted. With Hip Hop in the spotlight, it's time to put it back on track. This documentary presents views from Hip Hop founders, contributors, and artists in an attempt to return its audience to the four principles: Peace, Unity, Love & Having Fun

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CH6af90Ig0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CH6af90Ig0</a>
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« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2013, 02:05:59 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2013, 02:07:43 PM »

hip hop started to fail when media made hip hop a compound of the black culture.
 
media create a stereotype of hip hop fan, a cliché, then everything went wrong.
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« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2013, 02:08:10 PM »

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« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2013, 02:11:04 PM »

Popularity of the internet and downloading music happened. There was choice outside of radio/tv.
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« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2013, 02:26:31 PM »

Benny, do you agree with Michael Eric Dyson who argues that hip-hop, most notoriously Gangsta Rap, is both an exploitation and endorser of negative black stereotypes by non-black hegemonic forces?
 
Gangsta rappers aren't simply caving in to the pressure of racial and economic rewards in a music industry hungry to exploit their artistic imaginations .... [Instead,] gangsta rappers are easily manipulated pawns in a chess game of material dominance where their conscience are sold to the highest bidder (In Between God and Gansta Rap, p. 179).  
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« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2013, 02:27:35 PM »

What happened to hip hop?
People realised it was a pile of shite.
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« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2013, 03:00:02 PM »

hip hop started to fail when media made hip hop a compound of the black culture.
 
media create a stereotype of hip hop fan, a cliché, then everything went wrong.

hip-hop IS a part of black culture, which IS a part of American culture.
Hip Hop is Americana.
The problem is like all of Americana---it's been commercialized. Once people saw that they could make money in marketing it, that is really when the bottom fell out. Like Rock before it...and just like Rock, you had a progressive stream of crappy quality that had big marketing behind it, except with hip hop, it was Bigger, Badder, and Deffer
Like most things today in America, quality is not job one, how to market it is #1 on the priority.
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« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2013, 03:06:47 PM »

Hip hop sucks, maybe like 2% of it is good. The rest is garbage.

Too much conformity. Too many insecure douches yelling about how tough they supposedly are. Almost all of it is full of violence and misguided anger.
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« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2013, 03:09:53 PM »

one can only talk about Money, Hoez, pussy, Killing and Bling for so long

give it 3 more years and they will be hip hopping about cock, rose buds, twinks, and saunas
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« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2013, 03:29:21 PM »

Documentary from Sonali Aggarwal: Starring Afrika Bambaataa, KRS-ONE, Busy Bee, Kool Keith, MC Lyte, Slick Rick, Jean Grae, Gemini and other notable people being part of the Hip Hop movement. It began with the beat of the drum. With the beat, came a voice for those without one. From this voice, came a movement. Overcoming the odds, the originators of Hip Hop took their music from block parties of New York City streets to world wide radio waves. During the early years, the music and message reached new heights by exploring humanity, politics, and street life, while keeping it real and having fun. But what ever happened to Hip Hop? Currently the most pervasive music worldwide, its roots have been forgotten, its message perverted. With Hip Hop in the spotlight, it's time to put it back on track. This documentary presents views from Hip Hop founders, contributors, and artists in an attempt to return its audience to the four principles: Peace, Unity, Love & Having Fun

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CH6af90Ig0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CH6af90Ig0</a>


arent most "rappers" nowadays who made money off poor dumb people, multi millionaires themselves?
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« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2013, 03:32:46 PM »

The  Chronic was the best hip hop album, with Nuthin but a G thang the best rap song ever.
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« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2013, 03:41:55 PM »

one can only talk about Money, Hoez, pussy, Killing and Bling for so long

give it 3 more years and they will be hip hopping about cock, rose buds, twinks, and saunas

no, they will be rapping about how many tweets they send, how many twitter followers they have and how many times they update there facebook status.
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« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2013, 03:46:56 PM »

The  Chronic was the best hip hop album, with Nuthin but a G thang the best rap song ever.
here you go.
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« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2013, 03:48:34 PM »

no, they will be rapping about how many tweets they send, how many twitter followers they have and how many times they update there facebook status.


People always ask me why i listen to news /sports talk radio in my car , one can only listen to Biggie , Pac, Wutang, NWA, OLD ICE CUBE, Snoop Basically nothing beyond they year 2001 so many times


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« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2013, 04:07:56 PM »


People always ask me why i listen to news /sports talk radio in my car , one can only listen to Biggie , Pac, Wutang, NWA, OLD ICE CUBE, Snoop Basically nothing beyond they year 2001 so many times



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« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2013, 04:34:12 PM »

The Art of 16 Bars (Full Documentary)

Dope full documentary on THE MC. The lyrical part of Hip Hop.
Narrated by: Method Man.

Unfortunately, it also features some wack music/artists(50cent,kanye and all the pop-rap shit), but its a very dope documentary!!
But it does features:
The Notorious B.I.G., Eminem, Talib Kweli, Busta Rhymes, Ghostface Killah, Phife Dawg, Raekwon, Nas, Redman, Q-Tip, Rakim, Too Short,Guru, Supernatural, Common, Krs-One, Shock-G, Mc Lyte, Slick Rick, Kool Moe Dee, Jurassic 5, Pharoahe Monch, Twista, and more. (+ some wack pop-rappers)
QD3 Entertainment.

I DO NOT OWN THE RIGHTS OF THIS MATERIAL!!
Uploaded for the love of Hip Hop!!

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« Reply #18 on: March 28, 2013, 04:53:08 PM »

Good. Now maybe they will stop comiting crimes
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« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2013, 04:56:46 PM »

BEAST MC's Grandmaster Caz, Mele Mel, & Kool Moe Dee Cool
THE BRONX IS IN THE BUILDING

Doug E Fresh: The Art of Rap Directed by Ice T - Movie Clip

Official Clip from Something From Nothing: The Art of Rap Directed by Ice-T. Interview with Doug E Fresh.
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« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2013, 05:07:08 PM »

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« Reply #21 on: March 28, 2013, 05:10:31 PM »

Benny, do you agree with Michael Eric Dyson who argues that hip-hop, most notoriously Gangsta Rap, is both an exploitation and endorser of negative black stereotypes by non-black hegemonic forces?
 
Gangsta rappers aren't simply caving in to the pressure of racial and economic rewards in a music industry hungry to exploit their artistic imaginations .... [Instead,] gangsta rappers are easily manipulated pawns in a chess game of material dominance where their conscience are sold to the highest bidder (In Between God and Gansta Rap, p. 179).  


One of the biggest pseudo-intellectual blow hards to ever exist.  It amazes me he found employment in academia, and is even taken seriously in some circles. He's a proud member of the blame whitey for everything crowd.   The crux of his argument is that it's white people's fault for the gangster rap culture, which makes absolutely no sense. It's a weak attempt at rationalizing failings within his own community.
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« Reply #22 on: March 28, 2013, 06:07:15 PM »

Hi, Archer,

I take it you mean Dyson is the "blow hard," and not me (being called a "blow"-anything is hurtful) Huh

Yeah, Dyson argues that white hegemony appropriated hip-hop for its own ends. The genius of which is not to fight against it, but rather to help glamorize the negative stereotypes of black society in a hip-hop ethos that elides traditional routes to success like education by instead idealizing thuggish behavior.

But the reason I addressed Benny is to ask if Dyson has to give up a point of cultural pride? By arguing that the negative social effects of hip-hop (e.g., the spreading and reinforcing of severe stereotypes) are not so much self-inflicted and self-promoted (because they are propagated by white hegemonic forces), doesn't Dyson also have to concede the positive effects of hip-hop (e.g., its material and cultural success) to the same hegemonic forces? It seems that if Dyson is going to blame whitey, as you put it, he's also giving up the idea that the most successful hip-hop artists and hip-hop moguls are a self-determining and self-producing lot (they are nothing more than "pawns," as he puts it).  
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« Reply #23 on: March 28, 2013, 07:29:28 PM »

Back when it was good

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« Reply #24 on: March 28, 2013, 07:55:59 PM »

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