Driven Sports Craziness over Craze Discussion

[Kim Jong Bob]

craze has been heavily faked in recent months, you probably spent your money on chinese drywall powder 2nd time around

i fucking knew something was up. It was 1 month ago i ordered the last. Fellt just like a couple of cofein tabs only

[Cleanest Natural]

depends where you live ..like gothenburg they are raiding all the time.  Other citys may have no raids at all at the gym

something is terribly wrong with gym raids

[Kim Jong Bob]

something is terribly wrong with gym raids

oh thats not the worst part. They get clearence to search your antire house while you are detained at the police station after they raided the gym just because you where training there. In one razzia they took my friend who never done roids. He and the other was detained at the police station for 6 hours while the cops raided there homes.  They didnt find shit and his test came back negative but after that his neighbours who only saw a gang of pigs raid his home started to look on him like his a criminal and they didnt let there kids play with his kids. Just because he trained and took care of himself.

[Van_Bilderass]

Van Bilderass, I am well aware about the muscle profiling cases .. is it a hassle to procure and use gear in Sweden? How about prices?

There's probably more gear than ever. The profiling
does nothing but mess up the lives of those profiled
and none of them stop the drugs either.
I don't know who exactly is pulling the strings making
desicions to spend money on this retardedness but
it seems like a priority.

As far as prices I haven't really conpared internationally but
steroids are pretty cheap in general. It's the gh that's the problem, can't
afford it.

[JediTerminator]

Took some Cellucor C4 this morning instead of coffee. Instantly awake in 2 minutes like I did a line of coke.

[Deadpool]

Craze-ing is Amazing!  I feel there is something in there that they'll catch and then it will be just like original Jack3d, but I hope I have a decent stash before then

[Purge_WTF]

Someone posted a study over at BB.com a few days ago that said that Craze was free of whatever "drug" Patrick Arnold and his gremlins were saying was in it.

[AbrahamG]

Patrick Arnold is an incredibly smart man.  Have also heard great things about his cock size. (No homo)

[Van_Bilderass]

Someone posted a study over at BB.com a few days ago that said that Craze was free of whatever "drug" Patrick Arnold and his gremlins were saying was in it.

Post the study.

It wasn't Patrick saying it. He reported what Australian and Swedish government labs said.
Well, he did say later that he had seen the same peak on his equipment.

[dj181]

Patrick Arnold is an incredibly smart man.  Have also heard great things about his cock size. (No homo)

is he a jew?

[Purge_WTF]

Post the study.

http://www.getds.com/20130614381/Blog/further-proof-that-crazer-does-not-contain-amphetamines

[oliolioli]

http://www.getds.com/20130614381/Blog/further-proof-that-crazer-does-not-contain-amphetamines

That's a driven sports site.

I bought about 8 tubs from Amazon, it produced results very very similar to methamphetamine.  I've taken adderall and meth in the past many times, if this isn't some sort of analog I would be shocked.  I tried every tub, all had production dates within the last few months and all produced a similar effect.

Anyone else tried it?  If you have amphetamine experience you would recognize it immediately.

[Purge_WTF]

That's a driven sports site.

I bought about 8 tubs from Amazon, it produced results very very similar to methamphetamine.  I've taken adderall and meth in the past many times, if this isn't some sort of analog I would be shocked.  I tried every tub, all had production dates within the last few months and all produced a similar effect.

Anyone else tried it?  If you have amphetamine experience you would recognize it immediately.

I get the same effect from Gaspari's Detonate that I get from Craze, albeit not as faster since Craze is a powder.

It's hard to imagine the makers of both somehow connecting telepathically to spike their products with the same kind of Angeldust. Maybe it really is just the PEA/Dendrobium combo that does it.

[deceiver]

Who the fuck needs that shit, just take some test and drink coffeine before workouts.

Oh brother @ all these "natural athletes" I know who tried every pre-workout bullshit with DMAA on earth or even are addicted to this shit. So much for "natural", it's rather "I'm too scared to inject myself with needles".

[JediTerminator]

Who the fuck needs that shit, just take some test and drink coffeine before workouts.

Oh brother @ all these "natural athletes" I know who tried every pre-workout bullshit with DMAA on earth or even are addicted to this shit. So much for "natural", it's rather "I'm too scared to inject myself with needles".

I don't mind them (I only buy whatever is the cheapest, $20 for 30 servings is a good price here) only because I get tired of coffee at times. I see them as just a powdered version of an energy drink. Nothing more. They will do nothing for your physique in the long run. Yet many ppl say you "gotta" have one in order to workout. and yes, they get addicted because they aren't used to lifting without being hyped up like they did a line of coke in the gym.

[Van_Bilderass]

I get the same effect from Gaspari's Detonate that I get from Craze, albeit not as faster since Craze is a powder.

It's hard to imagine the makers of both somehow connecting telepathically to spike their products with the same kind of Angeldust. Maybe it really is just the PEA/Dendrobium combo that does it.

There's supposedly yet another meth analogue in Detonate, something called eth-amphetamine.
If I were to guess this allegation is true also.

One thing I'm pretty sure of is that there's no plant material in any "dendrobium" product. It's just synthetics.

[oliolioli]

There's supposedly yet another meth analogue in Detonate, something called eth-amphetamine.
If I were to guess this allegation is true also.

One thing I'm pretty sure of is that there's no plant material in any "dendrobium" product. It's just synthetics.

I just ordered a bottle, I'd be interested to see what it's like.

AMazing all this stuff is completely unregulated, they can get away with putting anything in these powders.  It wouldn't be an issue but it's marketed to uninformed teenagers, plus it is quite criminal that they are intentionally mislabeling their product.

Craze:  I read reports that the company claimed there were counterfeit product out there.  That is a joke, have you ever heard of counterfeit supplements?  I can't believe anyone would believe that.  But the lesson in all of this is that Driven Sports can put whatever they want in the product, the FDA doesn't investigate, nothing happens.

[Van_Bilderass]

Craze found to contain meth analog. I will confirm tomorrow with signed documentation from the lab. Lab has comparable certification to the one DS used, they made a standard to compare against. and the product was purchased from a third party retailer. Sorry, no tin foil hats here http://www.thermolife.com/forum/post40935-344/

GAME OVER for FAT MATT CAHILL.

CRAZE Berry Lemonade Lot # 1211372 bought from independent store and shipped directly to the lab found to contain ETHamphetamines ...

Odd how this lot # is not among the “clean” samples allegedly sent to the lab by Matt Cahill...

The lab indicated there are approximately 8mg per gram.... which means if one serving of Craze is 5.8 grams you would be ingesting about 46.5 grams of ETHamphetamines..

In comparison I was told the Detonate that was tested contains approximately 24mg per capsule.

Matt Cahill sending “clean versions” to the lab is fooling no one... except maybe Anthony Connors (aka Anthony Roberts) BUT since he's already a fool, I guess he doesn't count.

I’m looking forward to see Matt Cahill back behind bars where he belongs ASAP.

Other “HOT” lot #’s coming soon!!

AS PROMISED:

Here are the lab results on the products tested based on a validated method... the test results were delivered to me at the end of the day as the lab closed so I didn't have a chance to get back to them and ask to have them put the nomenclature for "ETH" on the report but rest assured it will be updated by Monday at the latest.

In case there is any doubt the term "ETH" refers to:

ethyl-1-phenyl-2-butylamine, N,alpha-diethylbenzeneethanamine or N,alpha-diethylphenethylamine which are all the same compound, recently termed ETHamphetamine or "ETH".

I have a proper chain of custody for each of the products tested and it will be produced to the necessary organizations if and when necessary.

All my statements regarding the contents of "ETH" in these products are based on the validity of these test results and the lab that preformed the analysis...

The lab was contracted to develop a standard for "ETH" and validated a test method for "ETH"...

This is a forensic lab that will stand behind their results in court.


GASPARI DETONATE (POSITIVE FOR "ETH"):



DRIVEN SPORTS CRAZE(POSITIVE FOR "ETH"):

Craze Berry Lemonade Flavor - Lot# 1211372 - Expiration date (11/15)




DRIVEN SPORTS CRAZE(POSITIVE FOR "ETH"):

Craze Candy Grape Flavor - Lot# 1305127 -Expiration date (05/16)



DRIVEN SPORTS CRAZE(NEGATIVE FOR "ETH"):

Craze Candy Grape Flavor - Lot# 1206418 - Expiration date (06/15)

[Marty Champions]

the crash can get terrible at times.

I think what is bad about this its not really "active" per say, its more pro drug with a substance that keeps it in liver longer.. so how well it will work depends on what you ate and how your body chemistry is that time of the day.

I remember I took it once and wanted to kill my self after the work out, Like literally just wanted to end it then and there. Come down is not worth the come up. IME.

forgive me but lulz that was a good one

[Marty Champions]

Took some Cellucor C4 this morning instead of coffee. Instantly awake in 2 minutes like I did a line of coke.

damn whats in that shit? id love to be instantly awake after work. probaly has some harsh chemicals in it

[Purge_WTF]

Found this gibberish in my inbox over at BB.com a few moments ago:

I'm a reporter for USA TODAY working on an article about Craze. I saw that you had posted about it and was wondering if you would be willing to talk with me for my article?

Thanks in advance for your consideration.

Alison
Alison Young
Reporter
USA TODAY
703-854-6466
ayoung@usatoday.com
Twitter: @alisonannyoung


I told her no in no uncertain terms.

[Van_Bilderass]

Purge, are you certain there has never been any "eth" in any Detonate or Craze product?
If not sure, what do you think of spiking products like this?

That Thermolife thread is kinda interesting, even has Kneller posting. Best part is "Duchaine's"
posts.

[oliolioli]

Purge, are you certain there has never been any "eth" in any Detonate or Craze product?
If not sure, what do you think of spiking products like this?

That Thermolife thread is kinda interesting, even has Kneller posting. Best part is "Duchaine's"
posts.

THANK YOU FOR VALIDATING WITH PROOF!!  He probably has never had any real amphetamine/meth to tell the difference, it is not like ECA, at the very least you would know a big difference if you were familiar with amphetamines to know this stuff was for real.

Too bad the variation between samples is all over the place, like I said everytime I got my stuff online it all had the stuff in it, just varying dose/servings.

[oliolioli]

Purge, are you certain there has never been any "eth" in any Detonate or Craze product?
If not sure, what do you think of spiking products like this?

That Thermolife thread is kinda interesting, even has Kneller posting. Best part is "Duchaine's"
posts.

WOw great thread over there, this is great.

What could happen to DS?  Do you think they will be investigated?

[Van_Bilderass]

WOw great thread over there, this is great.

What could happen to DS?  Do you think they will be investigated?

Those who should know say the FDA etc move slow. But this Kramer
dude is on a mission... I guess it depends on how much press this thing gets.

Kneller is a real snake... posing as a Chinese chem trader selling chems to his
own boss (Gaspari) LOL. Maybe has something to do with him
getting fired?