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Re: Dr Fred Hatfield/cancer/ketodiet
« Reply #25 on: April 05, 2013, 03:07:00 PM »
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http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/media/releases/cancer_cells_feed_on_sugar_free_diet

Cancer Cells Feed on Sugar-Free Diet
Release Date: 01/10/2012
Study highlights role of glutamine in absence of glucose in growth of B cell tumors

Cancer cells have been long known to have a “sweet tooth,” using vast amounts of glucose for energy and for building blocks for cell replication. 

Now, a study by a team of researchers at Johns Hopkins and elsewhere shows that lymph gland cancer cells called B cells can use glutamine in the absence of glucose for cell replication and survival, particularly under low-oxygen conditions, which are common in tumors.

Writing in the Jan. 4, 2012, edition of Cell Metabolism, Anne Le, M.D., and a team of investigators collaborating with the Johns Hopkins Brain Science Institute, say the finding is critical for developing innovative cancer therapies because it offers “proof of concept” evidence that curbing the growth of B cell cancers can be accomplished by inhibiting a glutamine enzyme called glutaminase.

Le notes that although little is known about glutamine’s role in the growth of B cell cancer, the amino acid circulates in the blood at the highest level among the 20 amino acids that do so.

The tricarboxylic acid cycle (TCA or Krebs cycle) is classically regarded as a pathway for glucose oxidation.  However, the experiments by Le and the team show that B cells oxidize glutamine when glucose is absent.

 The study also found that when oxygen is scarce, there is enhanced conversion of glutamine to glutathione, an important agent for controlling the accumulation of oxygen-containing chemically reactive molecules that cause damage to normal cells.

When the investigators used a glutaminase inhibitor, cancerous growth of B cells was stopped in petri dishes.

“The flexibility of the TCA cycle in using both glutamine and glucose pathways may be important for cancer cells to proliferate and survive, especially under the low-oxygen and nutrient-deprived conditions often encountered in the tumor microenvironment,” says Le.

Now, perhaps, scientists can exploit that survival strategy to stop cancer, according to former Johns Hopkins scientist Chi Dang, M.D., now at the Abramson Cancer Center at the University of Pennsylvania. “A broader and deeper understanding of cancer cell metabolism and cancer cells’ability to reprogram biochemical pathways under metabolic stress can be a rich ground for therapeutic approaches targeting tumor metabolism,” he says. 

In addition to Le, an assistant professor in the Department of Pathology at the Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine, other researchers from Johns Hopkins who participated in this study include Sminu Bose, Arvin Gouw, Joseph Barbi, Takashi Tsukamoto, Camilo J. Rojas and Barbara Slusher. The Johns Hopkins Brain Science Institute, where Tsukamoto, Rojas and Slusher are faculty, is pursuing the development of new glutaminase inhibitor drugs.

Media Contact: Christen Brownlee
410-955-7832; cbrownlee@jhmi.edu

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Re: Dr Fred Hatfield/cancer/ketodiet
« Reply #26 on: April 05, 2013, 03:07:54 PM »
If beating Cancer was as easy as just not eating Sugar, we would have many more survivors.  My Grandmother beat Cancer the old Fashioned way (today they would have declared it inoperable and terminal as they wouldn`t do the type of procedure they did).  They removed one lung when she was in her late 70s and removed a bit from another area and the cancer never returned.  She didn`t have to do anything after that and lived to well in her 90s, cancer free.  She ate whatever she wanted her whole life and was never above 110 lbs her whole life.



Didn't you read your bible? Fellow christian charlatan Kent Hovind claims the cure for cancer is given right there in the sacred text of the bible in this doozy of a video!


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Re: Dr Fred Hatfield/cancer/ketodiet
« Reply #27 on: April 05, 2013, 03:10:15 PM »
Didn't you read your bible? Fellow christian charlatan Kent Hovind claims the cure for cancer is given right there in the sacred text of the bible in this doozy of a video!


ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Christians should embrace Cancer. Not only is it "god`s Will" and he gives his strongest soldiers the toughest challenges, its wrong for them to murder living organisms in the body.

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Re: Dr Fred Hatfield/cancer/ketodiet
« Reply #28 on: April 05, 2013, 03:10:25 PM »
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Go easy on him bro..he just survived a terminal cancer diagnosis by three docs.
So much for his fuckin ideas about diet then.

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Re: Dr Fred Hatfield/cancer/ketodiet
« Reply #29 on: April 05, 2013, 03:22:03 PM »
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Christians should embrace Cancer. Not only is it "god`s Will" and he gives his strongest soldiers the toughest challenges, its wrong for them to murder living organisms in the body.

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Heathens!! The lot of them!!

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Re: Dr Fred Hatfield/cancer/ketodiet
« Reply #30 on: April 05, 2013, 03:30:41 PM »
So much for his fuckin ideas about diet then.

are you talking about hatfield?

i remember reading his book "bodybuilding a scientific approach" and he said that both low-fat and low-carb "diets" work, but that a low-fat diet is a better method to follow

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Re: Dr Fred Hatfield/cancer/ketodiet
« Reply #31 on: April 05, 2013, 03:40:32 PM »
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Christians should embrace Cancer. Not only is it "god`s Will" and he gives his strongest soldiers the toughest challenges, its wrong for them to murder living organisms in the body.

I agree.  Any intervention on the part of doctors is playing god and interfering in his plan. If god wanted someone free of cancer he would spontaneously cure the cancer or not have given it to them in the first place.
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Re: Dr Fred Hatfield/cancer/ketodiet
« Reply #32 on: April 05, 2013, 05:17:29 PM »
So do any of you guys remember Dr Squat? First to squat over 1000.



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Re: Dr Fred Hatfield/cancer/ketodiet
« Reply #33 on: April 05, 2013, 05:32:29 PM »
"Dr. Squat" oh brother

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Re: Dr Fred Hatfield/cancer/ketodiet
« Reply #34 on: April 06, 2013, 01:14:17 AM »
I think this is very misleading.  Certain fruits like blackberries and cherries (any dark colored berry for that matter) are loaded with anti-cancer compounds like anthocyanins and vitamin c.  It is stupid to avoid these types of foods just because they contain some fructose.

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Re: Dr Fred Hatfield/cancer/ketodiet
« Reply #35 on: April 06, 2013, 01:58:59 AM »
If you're after longevity then you should do everything the opposite a bb would want.

For example, you'd want LOW IGF-1. You want to eat very low cal, low protein, low BCAA's etc.

These guys were thrilled when they were able to drop their IGF-1 by 50%.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xvdbtt_eat-fast-live-longer-hd_shortfilms#.UV_jE1fT47q

I remember when Dan Duchaine said Hatfield was the very definition of unhealthiness, a walking heart attack. He liked Three Musketeers candy bars. He said Source of calories didn't matter! :D

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Re: Dr Fred Hatfield/cancer/ketodiet
« Reply #36 on: April 06, 2013, 02:56:14 AM »
Great documentary Disgusted. I use a similar diet with yours and the documentary is on the same page.

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Re: Dr Fred Hatfield/cancer/ketodiet
« Reply #37 on: April 06, 2013, 07:28:03 AM »
If you're after longevity then you should do everything the opposite a bb would want.

For example, you'd want LOW IGF-1. You want to eat very low cal, low protein, low BCAA's etc.

These guys were thrilled when they were able to drop their IGF-1 by 50%.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xvdbtt_eat-fast-live-longer-hd_shortfilms#.UV_jE1fT47q

I remember when Dan Duchaine said Hatfield was the very definition of unhealthiness, a walking heart attack. He liked Three Musketeers candy bars. He said Source of calories didn't matter! :D

Yep. These life extensionist cats want to slow their metabolisms to a creeping halt and put as little miles on their body as possible. And when they do exhaust it, it's all highway miles and never going past 2400 RPMs.

Bodybuilding is pedal to the metal, skipping oil changes and revving the fuck out of your shit with no regard for anything else. I don't bulk up on massive calories anymore for that reason, because it's completely unnecessary to eat so slothfully only to do cardio and burn those calories too. Way too much metabolic damage and exhaustion. I eat smaller and stay at a lower bodyweight and focus on aesthetics like the guys from the 70's and 80's, no bloofy live fast, die young bullshit.

Not going to go as far as eating like a bird though. I know people who do those very low caloric diets and never run around. They're scared of getting too wound up and harming their body. Conversely, they're living TOO safely and not being realistic. Gotta find that balance.

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Re: Dr Fred Hatfield/cancer/ketodiet
« Reply #38 on: April 06, 2013, 07:31:49 AM »
I think this is very misleading.  Certain fruits like blackberries and cherries (any dark colored berry for that matter) are loaded with anti-cancer compounds like anthocyanins and vitamin c.  It is stupid to avoid these types of foods just because they contain some fructose.

Lustig said these food were acceptable in their whole food form because they contained fiber which aided the digestion process and blunted the deleterious affects of fructose.  His main beef is with processed food and refined sugars.
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Re: Dr Fred Hatfield/cancer/ketodiet
« Reply #39 on: April 06, 2013, 07:35:15 AM »
Yep. These life extensionist cats want to slow their metabolisms to a creeping halt and put as little miles on their body as possible. And when they do exhaust it, it's all highway miles and never going past 2400 RPMs.

Bodybuilding is pedal to the metal, skipping oil changes and revving the fuck out of your shit with no regard for anything else. I don't bulk up on massive calories anymore for that reason, because it's completely unnecessary to eat so slothfully only to do cardio and burn those calories too. Way too much metabolic damage and exhaustion. I eat smaller and stay at a lower bodyweight and focus on aesthetics like the guys from the 70's and 80's, no bloofy live fast, die young bullshit.

Not going to go as far as eating like a bird though. I know people who do those very low caloric diets and never run around. They're scared of getting too wound up and harming their body. Conversely, they're living TOO safely and not being realistic. Gotta find that balance.

in your opinion, how low is very low cals?

i'm down to about 1800 cals, and i'm thinking to even go down to 1200 cals, but a bud of mine here told me that i shouldn't go under 1500 cals

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Re: Dr Fred Hatfield/cancer/ketodiet
« Reply #40 on: April 06, 2013, 07:38:28 AM »
in your opinion, how low is very low cals?

i'm down to about 1800 cals, and i'm thinking to even go down to 1200 cals, but a bud of mine here told me that i shouldn't go under 1500 cals

They do a structured "VLCD" 800 calorie per diem. I think people who do the HCG diet do the same. You can usually get all you need for the day without going over that amount.

I'm usually under 2000 and I think that's pretty low, but it gives me a nice buffer for when I do want to pig out and eat 3-4000 calories in a day. Doesn't phase me at all when I eat double or triple what I normally eat. I wouldn't be happy eating less than a thousand per day though. Seems way too low for life to be enjoyable.

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Re: Dr Fred Hatfield/cancer/ketodiet
« Reply #41 on: April 06, 2013, 08:01:26 AM »
They do a structured "VLCD" 800 calorie per diem. I think people who do the HCG diet do the same. You can usually get all you need for the day without going over that amount.

I'm usually under 2000 and I think that's pretty low, but it gives me a nice buffer for when I do want to pig out and eat 3-4000 calories in a day. Doesn't phase me at all when I eat double or triple what I normally eat. I wouldn't be happy eating less than a thousand per day though. Seems way too low for life to be enjoyable.

800 cals ??? fuck :o

i remember when i did that for 2 weeks straight and i near passed the fuck out after being into it for just 3 days

but you think that one can get all they need at 800 cals per day?

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Re: Dr Fred Hatfield/cancer/ketodiet
« Reply #42 on: April 06, 2013, 08:03:05 AM »
800 cals ??? fuck :o

i remember when i did that for 2 weeks straight and i near passed the fuck out after being into it for just 3 days

but you think that one can get all they need at 800 cals per day?

Yes. But do I recommend it? No.