Then I know a guy who never used over 700mg of test per week, usual cycle is like 500mg of test, first dianabol then some tren and boldenone. He outmuscles everyone here when it comes to upper body. OTH has the edge from the back and legs and he would crush him, but arms/shoulders/chest are absolutely sick.
He doesn't train 6 months out of a year at all. He comes back little bit more fat but just as huge as he was.
I also know for a fact what huge powerlifter from my country who squats around 270-280kg raw currently uses... I know a guy who is supplying him. 500mg of test per week and 350mg of tren per week and like 3 or 5iu of gh per day (didn't remember exactly). Lean as fuck and around 110kg if I remember correctly.
Generally from what I've seen people overestimate huge doses. Yeah, on olympia level they give you the edge, obviously... But if you're not huge guy on normal doses then don't expect anything magical happen on higher doses. That's why I'm never gonna even try.
My buddy did a pissant local show a few years back, he was a shredded middleweight and running close to a gram of tren, winny, masteron and looked great .. then this black dude who looks like a 5'5" flex wheeler comes out and just CRUSHES everyone. Turns out the guy is lazy, only trains for a few months before a show, does no cardio and does whatever shitty (probably fake) gear the local gym dealer pushes his way, dbol and test & mcdonalds
Genetics are everything when it comes to drug response.. you either have it and respond well to a gram a week or you dont and then it doesnt matter what you run imo. I've run 2gs a week in the past and even though I could bench 4 plates all day I still looked like a sack of soggy shit.
that said I've talked to some pros @ golds venice (no Cswol) and the doses they and wannabe pros will admit to are fucking nuts. And remember they all lie and downplay what they really take when talking about it too, so I cant imagine how much shit they are actually running or how many dicks they are Kai Greening to pay for it