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« Reply #50 on: April 12, 2013, 06:40:31 AM »
People who pray in public are going to hell too.

The Bible says so.  I am pretty sure Satan has you  a reserved spot in the gay bukkake circle.
 



 :D :D :D :D :D i think he's looking forward to it  :D :D :D :D :D

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« Reply #51 on: April 12, 2013, 06:42:24 AM »
I applaud you. That little acorn you call a brain has acknowledged the truth.

You really believe gays go to hell Dario?

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« Reply #52 on: April 12, 2013, 07:46:49 AM »
You really believe gays go to hell Dario?

He claims Jesus created the universe and Earth as well.  So yeah.... he believes stupid shit like that.

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Re: Missouri man arrested at hospital for refusing to leave gay partner
« Reply #53 on: April 12, 2013, 12:17:49 PM »
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The story of a gay man who was arrested for refusing to the leave his sick partner at a Missouri hospital made headlines across the nation earlier this week. Now, new details about the ordeal are painting a very disturbing picture of the alleged events.

Roger Gorley was handcuffed and forcibly removed from Research Medical Center in Kansas City, Mo., on Tuesday after he refused to leave his partner, Allen, who was receiving treatment for severe depression. Roger told Fox station WDAF that the hospital is guilty of discrimination. However, Research Medical Center denies the accusation, saying Roger was "disruptive and belligerent" and had to be escorted from the premises, according to a statement obtained by The Huffington Post.

But according to Amanda Brown, the 26-year-old daughter of Roger, there is much more to the story than hospital officials are letting on.

Speaking with John Aravosis of America Blog, the woman said Allen's brother, Lee, didn't want Roger at the hospital. Lee confronted Roger in front of a nurse, and the nurse allegedly had Roger removed, even though Allen had said he wanted his partner there.

Roger and Allen, who have been together for five years, are in a civil union and make medical decisions for each other through Power of Attorney.

“Lee was being more crazy than my dad, he was the one who was yelling,” Brown said.

Still, the nurse -- who supposedly was aware of Roger and Allen's status -- “directed her comments to Roger, ‘You need to leave the room.’ My dad said, ‘No, this is my husband, I’m going to stay with him," Brown added.

Shortly after, the police arrived.

Amanda described the interaction between her father and law enforcement in a We Are Atheism blog post:


When the Kansas City Missouri Police Department arrived they asked my father to leave the room. He said to them, “No. This is my husband and I am going to stay with him.” The police considered that a violation of a direct order so they began to forcibly remove him from the room. My father held onto the rail of the gurney as well as his husbands hand with everything he had. The police responded with brut and excessive force. The office began karate chopping his wrist to get him to release the gurney. Then they wrestled him to the ground forcefully enough to knock his glasses off of his face, his hearing aids out of his ears, and nearly break his wrist while they took him down. To handcuff him they pushed a knee into his back and wrenched his wrists around.

She also says her father was cut in the process and began bleeding. She added that one of the officers seemed to be afraid Roger could be HIV-positive.

"One of the arresting officers was so offended by my father’s presence that he would not touch him with his bare hands," she said. "He wore gloves the entire time and to make matters even more humiliating he didn’t want his handcuffs back."

A representative for the Kansas City Police Department told HuffPost that hospital security dealt with Roger while he was in the room. She said police arrived to escort him out of the hospital.

As for the accusation that an officer was wary about Roger bleeding, she said wearing gloves is protocol.

"I don't know if that was a Kansas City officer," the spokeswoman told HuffPost. "I can't speak to that. The only thing I can speak to is the way we handle anyone when there is blood present. It's a protection of ourselves from any bodily fluids. What [Brown] described isn't unusual. It doesn't have to do with his sexual preference. We don't know -- when we come into contact with people -- what they have or may not have. We just try to be safe."

Not only is the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) working with Roger, but the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) is also looking into the incident.

"All Americans are guaranteed the right to receive hospital visitors that they designate, and there are specific protections in our rules for same-sex couples across the country," a representative for CMS told BuzzFeed. "We take alleged violations of federal rules around hospital visitation very seriously."

In 2010, President Barack Obama extended hospital visitation rights to same-sex partners in a federal regulation aimed at hospitals participating in Medicare and Medicaid programs. Tuesday's events could be in direct violation of this ruling.

Still, Research Medical Center says there was never any discrimination based on sexual orientation.

"In accordance with HIPAA, all Research Medical Center can report is that this is NOT a Gay Rights issue but an issue of disturbance where the patient was not able to get the care he needed," the hospital responded in a Facebook post.

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Re: Missouri man arrested at hospital for refusing to leave gay partner
« Reply #54 on: April 12, 2013, 12:42:28 PM »
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The story of a gay man who was arrested for refusing to the leave his sick partner at a Missouri hospital made headlines across the nation earlier this week. Now, new details about the ordeal are painting a very disturbing picture of the alleged events.

Roger Gorley was handcuffed and forcibly removed from Research Medical Center in Kansas City, Mo., on Tuesday after he refused to leave his partner, Allen, who was receiving treatment for severe depression. Roger told Fox station WDAF that the hospital is guilty of discrimination. However, Research Medical Center denies the accusation, saying Roger was "disruptive and belligerent" and had to be escorted from the premises, according to a statement obtained by The Huffington Post.

But according to Amanda Brown, the 26-year-old daughter of Roger, there is much more to the story than hospital officials are letting on.

Speaking with John Aravosis of America Blog, the woman said Allen's brother, Lee, didn't want Roger at the hospital. Lee confronted Roger in front of a nurse, and the nurse allegedly had Roger removed, even though Allen had said he wanted his partner there.

Roger and Allen, who have been together for five years, are in a civil union and make medical decisions for each other through Power of Attorney.

“Lee was being more crazy than my dad, he was the one who was yelling,” Brown said.

Still, the nurse -- who supposedly was aware of Roger and Allen's status -- “directed her comments to Roger, ‘You need to leave the room.’ My dad said, ‘No, this is my husband, I’m going to stay with him," Brown added.

Shortly after, the police arrived.

Amanda described the interaction between her father and law enforcement in a We Are Atheism blog post:


When the Kansas City Missouri Police Department arrived they asked my father to leave the room. He said to them, “No. This is my husband and I am going to stay with him.” The police considered that a violation of a direct order so they began to forcibly remove him from the room. My father held onto the rail of the gurney as well as his husbands hand with everything he had. The police responded with brut and excessive force. The office began karate chopping his wrist to get him to release the gurney. Then they wrestled him to the ground forcefully enough to knock his glasses off of his face, his hearing aids out of his ears, and nearly break his wrist while they took him down. To handcuff him they pushed a knee into his back and wrenched his wrists around.

She also says her father was cut in the process and began bleeding. She added that one of the officers seemed to be afraid Roger could be HIV-positive.

"One of the arresting officers was so offended by my father’s presence that he would not touch him with his bare hands," she said. "He wore gloves the entire time and to make matters even more humiliating he didn’t want his handcuffs back."

A representative for the Kansas City Police Department told HuffPost that hospital security dealt with Roger while he was in the room. She said police arrived to escort him out of the hospital.

As for the accusation that an officer was wary about Roger bleeding, she said wearing gloves is protocol.

"I don't know if that was a Kansas City officer," the spokeswoman told HuffPost. "I can't speak to that. The only thing I can speak to is the way we handle anyone when there is blood present. It's a protection of ourselves from any bodily fluids. What [Brown] described isn't unusual. It doesn't have to do with his sexual preference. We don't know -- when we come into contact with people -- what they have or may not have. We just try to be safe."

Not only is the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) working with Roger, but the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) is also looking into the incident.

"All Americans are guaranteed the right to receive hospital visitors that they designate, and there are specific protections in our rules for same-sex couples across the country," a representative for CMS told BuzzFeed. "We take alleged violations of federal rules around hospital visitation very seriously."

In 2010, President Barack Obama extended hospital visitation rights to same-sex partners in a federal regulation aimed at hospitals participating in Medicare and Medicaid programs. Tuesday's events could be in direct violation of this ruling.

Still, Research Medical Center says there was never any discrimination based on sexual orientation.

"In accordance with HIPAA, all Research Medical Center can report is that this is NOT a Gay Rights issue but an issue of disturbance where the patient was not able to get the care he needed," the hospital responded in a Facebook post.


its safe to assume there's WAY more to this story.  its not like the guy was in a car accident and was in a life or death situation where every minute counted.  he was being treated for fucking depression. it sounds like the room was chock full of assholes and things got out of hand.

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Re: Missouri man arrested at hospital for refusing to leave gay partner
« Reply #55 on: April 13, 2013, 04:23:36 AM »
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The story of a gay man who was arrested for refusing to the leave his sick partner at a Missouri hospital made headlines across the nation earlier this week. Now, new details about the ordeal are painting a very disturbing picture of the alleged events.

Roger Gorley was handcuffed and forcibly removed from Research Medical Center in Kansas City, Mo., on Tuesday after he refused to leave his partner, Allen, who was receiving treatment for severe depression. Roger told Fox station WDAF that the hospital is guilty of discrimination. However, Research Medical Center denies the accusation, saying Roger was "disruptive and belligerent" and had to be escorted from the premises, according to a statement obtained by The Huffington Post.

But according to Amanda Brown, the 26-year-old daughter of Roger, there is much more to the story than hospital officials are letting on.

Speaking with John Aravosis of America Blog, the woman said Allen's brother, Lee, didn't want Roger at the hospital. Lee confronted Roger in front of a nurse, and the nurse allegedly had Roger removed, even though Allen had said he wanted his partner there.

Roger and Allen, who have been together for five years, are in a civil union and make medical decisions for each other through Power of Attorney.

“Lee was being more crazy than my dad, he was the one who was yelling,” Brown said.

Still, the nurse -- who supposedly was aware of Roger and Allen's status -- “directed her comments to Roger, ‘You need to leave the room.’ My dad said, ‘No, this is my husband, I’m going to stay with him," Brown added.

Shortly after, the police arrived.

Amanda described the interaction between her father and law enforcement in a We Are Atheism blog post:


When the Kansas City Missouri Police Department arrived they asked my father to leave the room. He said to them, “No. This is my husband and I am going to stay with him.” The police considered that a violation of a direct order so they began to forcibly remove him from the room. My father held onto the rail of the gurney as well as his husbands hand with everything he had. The police responded with brut and excessive force. The office began karate chopping his wrist to get him to release the gurney. Then they wrestled him to the ground forcefully enough to knock his glasses off of his face, his hearing aids out of his ears, and nearly break his wrist while they took him down. To handcuff him they pushed a knee into his back and wrenched his wrists around.

She also says her father was cut in the process and began bleeding. She added that one of the officers seemed to be afraid Roger could be HIV-positive.

"One of the arresting officers was so offended by my father’s presence that he would not touch him with his bare hands," she said. "He wore gloves the entire time and to make matters even more humiliating he didn’t want his handcuffs back."

A representative for the Kansas City Police Department told HuffPost that hospital security dealt with Roger while he was in the room. She said police arrived to escort him out of the hospital.

As for the accusation that an officer was wary about Roger bleeding, she said wearing gloves is protocol.

"I don't know if that was a Kansas City officer," the spokeswoman told HuffPost. "I can't speak to that. The only thing I can speak to is the way we handle anyone when there is blood present. It's a protection of ourselves from any bodily fluids. What [Brown] described isn't unusual. It doesn't have to do with his sexual preference. We don't know -- when we come into contact with people -- what they have or may not have. We just try to be safe."

Not only is the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) working with Roger, but the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) is also looking into the incident.

"All Americans are guaranteed the right to receive hospital visitors that they designate, and there are specific protections in our rules for same-sex couples across the country," a representative for CMS told BuzzFeed. "We take alleged violations of federal rules around hospital visitation very seriously."

In 2010, President Barack Obama extended hospital visitation rights to same-sex partners in a federal regulation aimed at hospitals participating in Medicare and Medicaid programs. Tuesday's events could be in direct violation of this ruling.

Still, Research Medical Center says there was never any discrimination based on sexual orientation.

"In accordance with HIPAA, all Research Medical Center can report is that this is NOT a Gay Rights issue but an issue of disturbance where the patient was not able to get the care he needed," the hospital responded in a Facebook post.


I think anyone would be pissed if they were told to leave their loved one's side...especially since his partner wanted him to stay and they had all of their paperwork in order....which I think is silly for that part because I believe that government should not have any involvement in marriage or any personal relationship....period.

It appears that the police gave an illegal order however it was because the hospital...or in this case the nurse decided to play politics and ignored federal guidelines.  He may have been dragged out but the hospital may as well pull out their checkbooks and start writing.  


I am glad it happened because it takes bullshit like this to force moral and decent chances in treatment of others.  And 333386....one day you may find yourself in a situation where your civil rights are violated.
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Re: Missouri man arrested at hospital for refusing to leave gay partner
« Reply #56 on: April 13, 2013, 07:30:52 AM »
I think anyone would be pissed if they were told to leave their loved one's side...especially since his partner wanted him to stay and they had all of their paperwork in order....which I think is silly for that part because I believe that government should not have any involvement in marriage or any personal relationship....period.

It appears that the police gave an illegal order however it was because the hospital...or in this case the nurse decided to play politics and ignored federal guidelines.  He may have been dragged out but the hospital may as well pull out their checkbooks and start writing.  


I am glad it happened because it takes bullshit like this to force moral and decent chances in treatment of others.  And 333386....one day you may find yourself in a situation where your civil rights are violated.

none of us have any idea what happened at the hospital that day except for the people that were there.  the fact that you have your mind made up already and think the hospital should start writing checks just proves that you're biased.  they very well may have treated that man and his partner horribly simply because they are gay.  however, they may have just kicked some fucking asshole out of the hospital that just so happens to be gay.  we don't know.  what we do know is that it wasn't the hospital that initially wanted the guy out of there.  it was the guy's brother who didn't want him there.  so i don't think anyone should jump to conclusions just yet.

and again, he wasn't in a horrible accident where every minute counts.  he was being treated for depression.  my wife works in a hospital and has worked on the psych floor.  EVERYONE there has the potential to be disruptive and dangerous.  i'd be interested to hear both sides of the story before i make up my mind.  but thats just me.

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Re: Missouri man arrested at hospital for refusing to leave gay partner
« Reply #57 on: April 13, 2013, 08:12:00 AM »
This seems to be more of a hospital not doing their job issue that is being held up as a "gay rights" issue to try and further the agenda.

They didnt check the paperwork for his POA which presumably would have allowed him to stay. If he started acting crazy before they had a chance though then the hospital probably just followed procedure.

No matter what it doesnt excuse him flipping out and assaulting ppl

I agree he should have been allowed to stay if the patient requested it regardless of him being his partner/POA...UNLESS HE WAS CAUSING A DISTURBANCE!!!!!

you ppl all riled up about gay rights are just looking for a reason to be pissed. This is a hospital procedure issue not a gay rights issue.

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Re: Missouri man arrested at hospital for refusing to leave gay partner
« Reply #58 on: April 13, 2013, 08:53:32 AM »
none of us have any idea what happened at the hospital that day except for the people that were there.  the fact that you have your mind made up already and think the hospital should start writing checks just proves that you're biased.  they very well may have treated that man and his partner horribly simply because they are gay.  however, they may have just kicked some fucking asshole out of the hospital that just so happens to be gay.  we don't know.  what we do know is that it wasn't the hospital that initially wanted the guy out of there.  it was the guy's brother who didn't want him there.  so i don't think anyone should jump to conclusions just yet.

and again, he wasn't in a horrible accident where every minute counts.  he was being treated for depression.  my wife works in a hospital and has worked on the psych floor.  EVERYONE there has the potential to be disruptive and dangerous.  i'd be interested to hear both sides of the story before i make up my mind.  but thats just me.


The guy's brother has no right to his care as he did not leave any decisions to him.  And my basis of the argument was simply substituting him in place of a woman......and it would never fly anywhere in the country.

There's no "2 sides to a story".  His partner left the guy in charge of his care and well-being...not his brother and he had no right to tell him to leave.  If the hospital claims a commotion had started, then they should have removed both the brother and the partner.....instead they somehow came to the conclusion to just remove "the fag'...... ::)

As far as his medical condition is concerned, it doesn't matter if he's there for a stub toe.....Federal and state laws are pretty clear on this and now the hospital is in deep doo doo.
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Re: Missouri man arrested at hospital for refusing to leave gay partner
« Reply #59 on: April 13, 2013, 08:56:47 AM »
This seems to be more of a hospital not doing their job issue that is being held up as a "gay rights" issue to try and further the agenda.

They didnt check the paperwork for his POA which presumably would have allowed him to stay. If he started acting crazy before they had a chance though then the hospital probably just followed procedure.

No matter what it doesnt excuse him flipping out and assaulting ppl

I agree he should have been allowed to stay if the patient requested it regardless of him being his partner/POA...UNLESS HE WAS CAUSING A DISTURBANCE!!!!!

you ppl all riled up about gay rights are just looking for a reason to be pissed. This is a hospital procedure issue not a gay rights issue.


If they had not checked his paperwork then how in the world was he in his room to begin with???  Sorry but the hospital had obviiously seen his POA or they would have never let him in to begin with. 

And the only disturbance I saw that was caused was by the brother who had no business telling him to leave...any commotion by the other person was justified.
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Re: Missouri man arrested at hospital for refusing to leave gay partner
« Reply #60 on: April 13, 2013, 08:58:11 AM »
This seems to be more of a hospital not doing their job issue that is being held up as a "gay rights" issue to try and further the agenda.

They didnt check the paperwork for his POA which presumably would have allowed him to stay. If he started acting crazy before they had a chance though then the hospital probably just followed procedure.

No matter what it doesnt excuse him flipping out and assaulting ppl

I agree he should have been allowed to stay if the patient requested it regardless of him being his partner/POA...UNLESS HE WAS CAUSING A DISTURBANCE!!!!!

you ppl all riled up about gay rights are just looking for a reason to be pissed. This is a hospital procedure issue not a gay rights issue.

Why would he be riled up if the hospital had done their job in the first place?

He wouldn't have been "riled" up if he wasn't told to leave... According to the article, he had to leave because the hospital didn't recognize him as family, and instead recognized the siblings.

That's where it started.

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Re: Missouri man arrested at hospital for refusing to leave gay partner
« Reply #61 on: April 13, 2013, 09:03:41 AM »

The guy's brother has no right to his care as he did not leave any decisions to him.  And my basis of the argument was simply substituting him in place of a woman......and it would never fly anywhere in the country.

There's no "2 sides to a story".  His partner left the guy in charge of his care and well-being...not his brother and he had no right to tell him to leave.  If the hospital claims a commotion had started, then they should have removed both the brother and the partner.....instead they somehow came to the conclusion to just remove "the fag'...... ::)

As far as his medical condition is concerned, it doesn't matter if he's there for a stub toe.....Federal and state laws are pretty clear on this and now the hospital is in deep doo doo.

yeah there are 2 sides to a story.  and you assume a lot because of your blatant bias.  this shit is already completely out of control.  someone pulls the gay card.  you believe them.  no questions asked.  the problem is not that YOU are like this.  you don't matter.  the problem we have is if we elect supreme court justices who are like YOU.  thats when it becomes a problem.

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Re: Missouri man arrested at hospital for refusing to leave gay partner
« Reply #62 on: April 13, 2013, 09:04:45 AM »

If they had not checked his paperwork then how in the world was he in his room to begin with???  Sorry but the hospital had obviiously seen his POA or they would have never let him in to begin with. 

And the only disturbance I saw that was caused was by the brother who had no business telling him to leave...any commotion by the other person was justified.

how in the fuck could you possibly know that?

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« Reply #63 on: April 13, 2013, 09:09:31 AM »

If they had not checked his paperwork then how in the world was he in his room to begin with???  Sorry but the hospital had obviiously seen his POA or they would have never let him in to begin with. 

And the only disturbance I saw that was caused was by the brother who had no business telling him to leave...any commotion by the other person was justified.

straight brother of patient argues with gay partner of patient.  gay guy is always right.  always. 

and again he may be absolutely right.  i don't know.  but you don't know either.  the fact that you think you do is just plain retarded.

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« Reply #64 on: April 13, 2013, 09:11:18 AM »

If they had not checked his paperwork then how in the world was he in his room to begin with???  Sorry but the hospital had obviiously seen his POA or they would have never let him in to begin with.  

And the only disturbance I saw that was caused was by the brother who had no business telling him to leave...any commotion by the other person was justified.
you dont have to have POA to visit a patient in a hospital, your logic again holds no water...shouldnt you be assembling fully automatic guns from airsoft guns?


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« Reply #65 on: April 13, 2013, 09:13:11 AM »
Why would he be riled up if the hospital had done their job in the first place?

He wouldn't have been "riled" up if he wasn't told to leave... According to the article, he had to leave because the hospital didn't recognize him as family, and instead recognized the siblings.

That's where it started.
If he had POA and the hospital knew this then he should have been allowed to stay regardless of the familys requests, correct?

This all started b/c the hospital didnt recognize his POA, not b/c he was gay.

If he had POA the fact he was gay doesnt mean anything.

You ppl are letting your emotions get the better of you

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« Reply #66 on: April 13, 2013, 09:16:16 AM »
If he had POA and the hospital knew this then he should have been allowed to stay regardless of the familys requests, correct?

This all started b/c the hospital didnt recognize his POA, not b/c he was gay.

If he had POA the fact he was gay doesnt mean anything.

You ppl are letting your emotions get the better of you

I'd say that the fact the POA wasn't recognized was because he was gay... You don't think so?

Why would it not be recognized in the first place?

Of course the Hospital didn't do their job... Most likely it was because he was gay and they didn't want to bother to research.

So his homosexuality was certainly a factor.

If I'm married and I go in and say "This is my wife", no one is kicking me out of anywhere... Because I'm heterosexual.

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« Reply #67 on: April 13, 2013, 09:19:34 AM »
I'd say that the fact the POA wasn't recognized was because he was gay... You don't think so?

Why would it not be recognized in the first place?

Of course the Hospital didn't do their job... Most likely it was because he was gay and they didn't want to bother to research.

So his homosexuality was certainly a factor.

If I'm married and I go in and say "This is my wife", no one is kicking me out of anywhere... Because I'm heterosexual.

if you can show some proof to your assertion then by all means, right now your basically playing the gay card without proof.

Looking at the FACTS, the hospital didnt do their job and look through the paperwork...PLAIN AND SIMPLE

The fact that he is gay is besides the point unless you have some additional proof youre holding back?

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« Reply #68 on: April 13, 2013, 09:20:36 AM »
why bother with this thread your not going to change them on their bigoted views

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« Reply #69 on: April 13, 2013, 09:27:54 AM »
if you can show some proof to your assertion then by all means, right now your basically playing the gay card without proof.

Looking at the FACTS, the hospital didnt do their job and look through the paperwork...PLAIN AND SIMPLE

The fact that he is gay is besides the point unless you have some additional proof youre holding back?

Ridiculous.

The fact he is gay is absolutely the point.

If he wasn't gay he wouldn't even need paperwork.

Are you disagreeing?

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« Reply #70 on: April 13, 2013, 09:28:58 AM »
why bother with this thread your not going to change them on their bigoted views
more intolerance from the ones yelling about tolerance

what bigoted view is that?

the one where I said he should have been allowed to stay?

you fundie libtards cannot stand ppl who view things different from you

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« Reply #71 on: April 13, 2013, 09:29:40 AM »
Ridiculous.

The fact he is gay is absolutely the point.

If he wasn't gay he wouldn't even need paperwork.

Are you disagreeing?
again if you have any proof that his sexuality was the issue please present it

POA is given to ppl of the same sex on a daily basis,

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« Reply #72 on: April 13, 2013, 09:30:30 AM »
again if you have any proof that his sexuality was the issue please present it

The proof is that if he were a woman he wouldn't need proof... or does that just seem to miss you?

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Re: Missouri man arrested at hospital for refusing to leave gay partner
« Reply #73 on: April 13, 2013, 09:32:13 AM »
The proof is that if he were a woman he wouldn't need proof... or does that just seem to miss you?
LOL that doesnt prove shit, so no man has ever been able to see/stay with another man at a hosptial if they had POA

The fact is the hospital didnt do their job OR the guy was acting an ASS

youre pointing at less than circumstantial evidence and yelling its your proof


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Re: Missouri man arrested at hospital for refusing to leave gay partner
« Reply #74 on: April 13, 2013, 09:32:45 AM »
You really believe gays go to hell Dario?

Yes. What they are doing is a sin. They will be joined by those who don't repent before God for committing adultery, murder, stealing, etc.

1 Corinthians 6:9,10

9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Galatian 5:19-21
19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.