Fundie Liberalism run amock in Florida school

[tonymctones]

Repost of PIP's thread on the G&O, I thought Id post it here and see what the liberals on this board thought.

Do you guys agree with this being taught as a lesson in school?

Dad Furious After Finding This Crayon-Written Paper in Florida 4th-Grader’s Backpack: ‘I Am Willing to Give Up Some of My Constitutional Rights…to Be Safer’

Bitch teacher should be fired, lose her citizenship, and be deported.

http://news.yahoo.com/dad-furious-finding-crayon-written-paper-florida-4th-124614291.html

and fundie liberals are concerned the pledge of allegiance using the word God or heaven forbid a teacher mention God

[Roger Bacon]

Repost of PIP's thread on the G&O, I thought Id post it here and see what the liberals on this board thought.

Do you guys agree with this being taught as a lesson in school?

and fundie liberals are concerned the pledge of allegiance using the word God or heaven forbid a teacher mention God

Thank you sir!

I was thinking about this when I read about the teacher being fired for handing out the bible, I saw where you mentioned it.  How fucking insane 

[whork]

Repost of PIP's thread on the G&O, I thought Id post it here and see what the liberals on this board thought.

Do you guys agree with this being taught as a lesson in school?

and fundie liberals are concerned the pledge of allegiance using the word God or heaven forbid a teacher mention God

Who wrote the paper the kid or the teacher?

And even though you disagree it can still be a relevant discussion for others

[OzmO]

But did the teacher push this on the kids or did they make it a opinion assignment?

[tonymctones]

But did the teacher push this on the kids or did they make it a opinion assignment?

the teacher made it an assignment,


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/13/report-florida-teacher-tells-fourth-graders-to-give-up-constitutional-rights/

"Aaron Harvey told WOKV.com that his 10-year-old son was told to write a note reading, "I am willing to give up some of my constitutional rights in order to be safer or more secure," after a civics lesson at the end of last year."

not only that but the school board is backing her up

"Duval County Public Schools issued a statement Friday to FirstCoastNews.com in which they said the lesson was consistent with the district's "efforts to broaden civics-based education and develop critical thinking skills among our students."

"The lesson builds awareness of First Amendment rights through a partnership with an association of local attorneys. Our possible concern rests with a follow-up activity that may have been conducted after the lesson," the statement read."

[tonymctones]

Who wrote the paper the kid or the teacher?

And even though you disagree it can still be a relevant discussion for others

so can God and religion, why are those banned from the classroom?

if were are going to be intellectually consistent than lets do so, why do fundamental liberals want to pick and choose which topics to let in the classroom and which ones to not?

[OzmO]

the teacher made it an assignment,


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/13/report-florida-teacher-tells-fourth-graders-to-give-up-constitutional-rights/

"Aaron Harvey told WOKV.com that his 10-year-old son was told to write a note reading, "I am willing to give up some of my constitutional rights in order to be safer or more secure," after a civics lesson at the end of last year."

not only that but the school board is backing her up

"Duval County Public Schools issued a statement Friday to FirstCoastNews.com in which they said the lesson was consistent with the district's "efforts to broaden civics-based education and develop critical thinking skills among our students."

"The lesson builds awareness of First Amendment rights through a partnership with an association of local attorneys. Our possible concern rests with a follow-up activity that may have been conducted after the lesson," the statement read."

I don't see how they could say it was consistent with promoting critical thinking skills whether are being told what to think.

Classic problem in our schools.  Kids aren't being taught to think.

[bears]

I don't see how they could say it was consistent with promoting critical thinking skills whether are being told what to think.

Classic problem in our schools.  Kids aren't being taught to think.

i tend to agree.  you can be made to write a report and take a side that you don't necessarily agree with for the sake of the assignment.  just like a debate team practicing.  "you guys are pro. you guys are con.  Go."

[bears]

for all we know the teacher's opinion lies on the other side of the argument and split up his students into both sides of the argument.  some other parent may have found a paper reading "i will NOT give up my constitutional rights....."

[Al Doggity]

for all we know the teacher's opinion lies on the other side of the argument and split up his students into both sides of the argument.  some other parent may have found a paper reading "i will NOT give up my constitutional rights....."

Judging from the article that was posted, it sounds like that might be the case:

Harvey's son attends Cedar Hills Elementary in Jacksonville, Fla. Back in January, a local attorney came in to teach the students about the Bill of Rights. But after the attorney left, fourth-grade teacher Cheryl Sabb dictated the sentence to part of the class and had them copy it down, he said.

Wonder if the other part of the class had a slightly differing assignment?   This sounds like one of those stories that becomes less outrageous when more facts emerge.

[Al Doggity]

I don't see how they could say it was consistent with promoting critical thinking skills whether are being told what to think.

Well, the Blaze is a pretty biased site and chopped the quotes up pretty good, so if you go to the First Coast news site that they took this story from, you see that the school board is not referring to the assignment, but to the lesson involving a guest speaker that took place. The paper is the possibly problematic "follow up activity."

[LurkerNoMore]

if were are going to be intellectually consistent than lets do so,

Anyone talking this way shouldn't be attempting to use the word "intellectually".

[tonymctones]

Ricky Retardo strikes again.

thanks albert great contribution

Anyone talking this way shouldn't be attempting to use the word "intellectually".

oh noooooosssssssss, the grammer police

[Al Doggity]

thanks albert great contribution
oh noooooosssssssss, the grammer police

Grammar. It's grammar. With an "A". Sarcastically responding to someone's critique of your spelling is way more effective if you can at least manage to spell all nine words in your response correctly. Lying about being a statistics, business, psyche and logic major is also more convincing if you can manage to spell at a third grade level.

[tonymctones]

Grammar. It's grammar. With an "A". Sarcastically responding to someone's critique of your spelling is way more effective if you can at least manage to spell all nine words in your response correctly. Lying about being a statistics, business, psyche and logic major is also more convincing if you can manage to spell at a third grade level.

LMFAO I see you still havent done any research on the topic eh?

what lies do you believe I have made there boss?

[Al Doggity]

LMFAO I see you still havent done any research on the topic eh?

what lies do you believe I have made there boss?

Lie number 1 is that you obviously aren't taking any college level courses as you are exponentially dumber than a 5th grader.  What research am I supposed to have done in lieu of you posting a sound point based in fact?

[tonymctones]

Lie number 1 is that you obviously aren't taking any college level courses as you are exponentially dumber than a 5th grader.  What research am I supposed to have done in lieu of you posting a sound point based in fact?

hahhahah first do some research on bell curves and sexual orientation....seriously just a google search and you can make up your own mind there boss

LOL I have two undergrads and I am about 2 weeks away from a masters, sorry to burst you bubble brother

[Al Doggity]

hahhahah first do some research on bell curves and sexual orientation....seriously just a google search and you can make up your own mind there boss

LOL I have two undergrads and I am about 2 weeks away from a masters, sorry to burst you bubble brother

Who are you trying to fool? You can barely spell. You aren't on your way to a masters. You  couldn't even grasp the concept of bell curves! In that thread you were making the argument that gay is two standard deviations away from straight. So, brainchild, you do understand that that means that you are claiming that there are two sexual orientations more common than gay that aren't straight? You are an idiot.

[LurkerNoMore]

This guy has no more room in his knees so he is using his head to catch the arrows now.

"LMFAO".  "Goodness gracious" this "brainchild" needs to "do some research."

[tonymctones]

Who are you trying to fool? You can barely spell. You aren't on your way to a masters. You  couldn't even grasp the concept of bell curves! In that thread you were making the argument that gay is two standard deviations away from straight. So, brainchild, you do understand that that means that you are claiming that there are two sexual orientations more common than gay that aren't straight? You are an idiot.

hahaha again i see you have done no research...

Ill make you a deal albert, Ill post up proof of my degrees in a few weeks and when Im proven right you leave getbig for good

Deal?

[Al Doggity]

hahaha again i see you have done no research...

Retardo, there's no research to do. There's not the slightest possibility you knew what you were talking about. You could simply post what the two sexual orientations that occupy the space between gay and straight are. I'm not aware of anyone else on this board who makes outrageous, unquantifiable claims then refuses to post information to back them up.

Ill make you a deal albert, Ill post up proof of my degrees in a few weeks and when Im proven right you leave getbig for good
Deal?

You can pull an image off of google, that don't mean shit. If you simply displayed even the most minor hint
of knowledge on at least one subject, I wouldn't even question your bonafides. However, you have been too dumb for too long on too many subjects. Not knowing what a bell curve is was just the straw that broke the camel's back. I will post as I please, however, you are free to leave for good whenever you like.

[tonymctones]

Retardo, there's no research to do. There's not the slightest possibility you knew what you were talking about. You could simply post what the two sexual orientations that occupy the space between gay and straight are. I'm not aware of anyone else on this board who makes outrageous, unquantifiable claims then refuses to post information to back them up.


You can pull an image off of google, that don't mean shit. If you simply displayed even the most minor hint
of knowledge on at least one subject, I wouldn't even question your bonafides. However, you have been too dumb for too long on too many subjects. Not knowing what a bell curve is was just the straw that broke the camel's back. I will post as I please, however, you are free to leave for good whenever you like.

LOL there is plenty of research to do, actually there is plenty of research that has been done....

and I could post pics of my degrees with a piece of paper noting my getbig screen name and date..so deal or not?

[Al Doggity]

LOL there is plenty of research to do, actually there is plenty of research that has been done....

Yet, you curiously can't provide a link or reference to any of it. If you did, it would be like your past buffoonery, where you actually provide a link proving the opposite of your actual point. Just to clarify, you are an idiot. The issue is no longer whether or not the research exists. It doesn't. In the way you described, there is no possible way that it could. The issue is  you are not just wrong, but that you are so stupid that you just strung a few scientific sounding words together, with absolutely no understanding of their meaning, hoping no one else would be wise to it. Unfortunately, pretty much every person who posted in that thread was already familiar with your Cliff Claven tactics. Also, they actually had functioning brain cells, so were able to understand the concept of a bell curve and how far off from it whatever you were talking about was.

and I could post pics of my degrees with a piece of paper noting my getbig screen name and date..so deal or not?

I just told you, dumbass. No. You're free to leave anytime you like, though.

[Soul Crusher]

A public school teacher is ignorant and incompetent?   Go Figure?             

[tonymctones]

Yet, you curiously can't provide a link or reference to any of it. If you did, it would be like your past buffoonery, where you actually provide a link proving the opposite of your actual point. Just to clarify, you are an idiot. The issue is no longer whether or not the research exists. It doesn't. In the way you described, there is no possible way that it could. The issue is  you are not just wrong, but that you are so stupid that you just strung a few scientific sounding words together, with absolutely no understanding of their meaning, hoping no one else would be wise to it. Unfortunately, pretty much every person who posted in that thread was already familiar with your Cliff Claven tactics. Also, they actually had functioning brain cells, so were able to understand the concept of a bell curve and how far off from it whatever you were talking about was.

I just told you, dumbass. No. You're free to leave anytime you like, though.

hahah if you would take the time to google it you would find all the proof you need

LMFAO well then please refrain from the general idiocy of questioning my education then.