What specific rights and freedoms have you lost since 9/11? posted by PIP

[Dos Equis]

So you would suggest that differentiation should be made, Beach Bum?  Please explain that position.

Who intercepted your e-mail communications and when? 

[Jack T. Cross]

Who intercepted your e-mail communications and when? 

Please explain the idea behind differentiation, Beach Bum.  Or come out and say that you can't explain.

[OzmO]

Answer his question first Jack, and stop your BULL SHIT.

[Jack T. Cross]

Answer his question first Jack, and stop your BULL SHIT.

You're out of your league, OzmO.  Please quit trying to derail the thread.

[a_ahmed]

[Jack T. Cross]

People need to watch what the fuck they say, if they can't back it up.

[Roger Bacon]

Answer his question first Jack, and stop your BULL SHIT.

Jack is absulutly right, ball is in Beach Bums court.

[Jack T. Cross]

Jack is absulutly right, ball is in Beach Bums court.

Thank you, bro.  I have been extremely specific.  To attempt differentiation between various forms of communication, as though it isn't the communication itself that's in question, is bizarre.

Beach Bum painted himself into a corner.  He should know better.

[OzmO]

Jack is absulutly right, ball is in Beach Bums court.

No its not re-read the whole exchange.

[Jack T. Cross]

...and of all people to have respect for private communication, he should be right up there.  But he's not.

[OzmO]

Thank you, bro.  I have been extremely specific.  To attempt differentiation between various forms of communication, as though it isn't the communication itself that's in question, is bizarre.

Beach Bum painted himself into a corner.  He should know better.

no you haven't.  You said "My communications"  specifically what?

[Dos Equis]

Please explain the idea behind differentiation, Beach Bum.  Or come out and say that you can't explain.

Oh cut the crap.  I want to know precisely what e-mail communications have been intercepted and by whom.  And when.  

I suspect you refuse to answer those very simple questions because you're probably just making stuff up.  I could be wrong, but that's my suspicion.  

[OzmO]

You're out of your league, OzmO.  Please quit trying to derail the thread.

 

Dude, you haven't yet to make a reasonable argument in the entire you've been posting on this forum.  

[Roger Bacon]

Whether you have to deal with it or not isn't the issue. Whether the loss is against the average person or not isn't the issue.

[Jack T. Cross]

OzmO, do you understand this to be an argument about private communication?

Just checking...

[Roger Bacon]

No its not re-read the whole exchange.

He answered Beach Bum's question, and he's absulutly right.

[Jack T. Cross]

Why can't you explain, Beach Bum?

[Jack T. Cross]

If these hide-a-fascists would just come out and say where they stand, it would save a lot of trouble.

[OzmO]

PIP

I can no longer expect privacy in my communications.  Can you, "Beach Bum"?

What specific communications are you talking about, "Jack T. Cross"?

My communications.

Which ones?  Phone, e-mail, letter?  And to whom? 

My communications. 

Are you having difficulties with understanding that, Beach Bum?

You're not getting off this hook.

Which communications?  Phone, e-mail, letter?  And to whom?  

My communications. 

You'll have to reveal where you stand, one way or another.  So come out and say it.

Let's try it a little differently.  Are you saying your telephone communications are no longer private?  If so, who is monitoring your communications?  And are these on your cell, home, work, or all three? 

No reason for anyone to be into others' intended-private communications, without proven cause.

Would anyone disagree with this?

Come out and say it, one way or another.

So you'd differentiate between various forms that are intended to be private, Beach Bum?  Why?

For the truly special on here: my communications, that I have not generated for consumption by anyone other than the intended recipient.

Hey now.  That's some real progress.    That sounds like e-mail and/or letter.  Who intercepted your e-mail communications and when?  

So you would suggest that differentiation should be made, Beach Bum.  Please explain that position.

Who intercepted your e-mail communications and when? 

Please explain the idea behind differentiation, Beach Bum.  Or come out and say that you can't explain.

Jack is absulutly right, ball is in Beach Bums court.

No seriously PIP, you might not like BB, but how can you say this is anything but a retarded dodge?

[Jack T. Cross]

OzmO, we aren't talking about methods of communication.  We are talking about a type of communication.

[Roger Bacon]

how can you say this is anything but a retarded dodge?

No its not re-read the whole exchange.

[OzmO]

No its not re-read the whole exchange.

I posted the whole exchange.

Did i miss something?

[Dos Equis]

OzmO, we aren't talking about methods of communication.  We are talking about a type of communication.

We're talking about both.  I'll give it one last try.  You claim one of the freedoms/rights you have lost after 9/11 is loss of privacy in your communications.  You narrowed that down to communications you send (which should eliminate phone calls).  I think we're talking about your private e-mail and letter communications with someone else.    

Who intercepted your e-mail or letter communications with someone else?  

When did this happen?      

[Dos Equis]

I posted the whole exchange.

Did i miss something?

Nope.   

[Roger Bacon]

Whether you have to deal with it or not isn't the issue. Whether the loss is against the average person or not isn't the issue.