At least have an open mind about the possibility of there being a god

[Marty Champions]

if you dont even have the open mind to say "maybe" atleast god might exist

then your ability to do anything correct in this world is highly suspect

i can 'get' an atheist way of thinking but you have to be full blow retard to deny that "maybe" god exists

[Archer77]

Will you say "maybe" there isn't a god? 

[Marty Champions]

Will you say "maybe" there isn't a god? 

of course

but im challenging the logical defiance of your typical atheist

do you think an athiest will give an openminded answer such as mine?

i bet 9 out of 10 wouldnt because of some sort of attitude problem they developed as a child

[Archer77]

i bet 9 out of 10 wouldnt because of some sort of attitude problem they developed as a child

This is not an open minded statement and is very judgmental.  You're attempting to dismiss the opposition, not by a logical counter argument, but by personal insult.  Not good, falcon.

[Marty Champions]

This is not an open minded statement and is very judgmental.  You're attempting to dismiss the opposition, not by a logical counter argument, but by personal insult.  Not good, falcon.

no this is a realistic estimation from my studies of behavior

[Archer77]

no this is a realistic estimation from my studies of behavior

So, you believe that from the narrow subset of people you've had contact with, you can accurately draw a conclusion so broad?

[The True Adonis]

[Marty Champions]

hahah this is awesome yo girl looking fiiiiyine too dawg 

[PJim]

That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.

[Marty Champions]

That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.

this world has enough 'things' going on to be classified as 'evidence' pro mostly

[Archer77]

this world has enough 'things' going on to be classified as 'evidence' pro mostly

Examples?

[Dokey111]

define god

[Marty Champions]

Examples?

the different levels of order from the macro to the micro

this would be a pro argument

but it can be twisted the other way for ex

"nothing really exists, things pop in and out of existance in retrospect in the quantam feild"

[Archer77]

the different levels of order from the macro to the micro

this would be a pro argument

but it can be twisted the other way for ex

"nothing really exists, things pop in and out of existance in retrospect in the quantam feild"

You're going to have to expand and be more specific on these concepts.  First, define your terms.  Secondly, frame your ideas into a coherent structured argument.

[Marty Champions]

You're going to have to expand and be more specific on these concepts.  First, define your terms.  Secondly, frame your ideas into a coherent structured argument.

the order of the planets

are they in orderly fashion? an argument for god

they are disorderly /chaotic? an argument for no god


lets not get to far ahead of ourselves shall we wilson

[Archer77]

the order of the planets

are they in orderly fashion? an argument for god

they are disorderly /chaotic? an argument for no god


lets not get to far ahead of ourselves shall we wilson

You can have order in the universe without the necessity of a god.  Why do you think you can't?   And what do you mean by order? 

[PJim]

the order of the planets

are they in orderly fashion? an argument for god

they are disorderly /chaotic? an argument for no god


lets not get to far ahead of ourselves shall we wilson

So you are saying the prerequisite for order is God and for disorder is no God? Surely you must have come across Chaos theory before? I don't understand why the mind links a creator to order, but not disorder, when really they are inseparable.

[Marty Champions]

You can have order in the universe without the necessity of a god.  Why do you think you can't?   And what do you mean by order? 

order=instructions,collaboration,rule ect

someone has to give instructions

or does it have to be someone

or is that just the way it is?

[Marty Champions]

So you are saying the prerequisite for order is God and for disorder is no God? Surely you must have come across Chaos theory before? I don't understand why the mind links a creator to order, but not disorder, when really they are inseparable.

im sure of that there is an order to disorder

[Archer77]

order=instructions,collaboration,rule ect

someone has to give instructions

You believe this for what reason?  You're argument is poor because it presupposed certain facts to be true.  Unfortunately you have not proven them to be true at all.

[PJim]

im sure of that there is an order to disorder

The mathematics show that disorder in itself creates apparent order.

[Marty Champions]

You believe this for what reason?  You're argument is poor because it presupposed certain facts to be true.  Unfortunately you have not proven them to be true at all.

an entity created the instructions


ok if you disagree then a opposite theory is needed

the answer is obvious from russelian science

that states all things (atoms and elements) eminate from the electric universe starting with light photon, then increase in energy giving you from the lightest to heaviest element on the periodic table

[Mr Nobody]

Just do the right things, no harm to others. God I'm not sure could be, could not be who really has the facts?

[Marty Champions]

Just do the right things, no harm to others. God I'm not sure could be, could not be who really has the facts?

having a closed mind is worst case scenario

this goes with all subjects

[kh300]

Some guy works in his fathers shop as a carpenter. During his time off he begins preaching to the locals in town. Next thing you know he has trillions upon trillions of followers. An uncountable number of books made about him. Hundreds of thousands of churches open in his name around the world. Thousands of years later hes still the most popular and worshiped man in the world. 90% of the world population believes in a higher power....That's one hell of a fairy tale.