Boston Bombing - Maybe this is why the FBI couldn't catch that Chechen dude

[The True Adonis]

"Dummy rounds going into the boat" on scanner

[Agnostic007]

How about FBI agent IQ?? Cus it's pretty clear front the video the gate was unlocked and no need to scale fence to trespass on that persons property

FBI requires a college degree

[Agnostic007]

How about FBI agent IQ?? Cus it's pretty clear front the video the gate was unlocked and no need to scale fence to trespass on that persons property

I looked at the video.. I see a lock on it... I see it locked. With a gate like that, if one of the gates are not held fast by a rod going into the ground, you can open them by pushing on them if it is a slide bar lock. I know this because I've had fences like that. Maybe he hasnt.

[Nails]

I looked at the video.. I see a lock on it... I see it locked. With a gate like that, if one of the gates are not held fast by a rod going into the ground, you can open them by pushing on them if it is a slide bar lock. I know this because I've had fences like that. Maybe he hasnt.

LoL kinda looked like Lloyd in entourage

Looks like his first field assignment

[240 is Back]

If you're agile and in shape, it is fun to jump fences.



maybe dude just likes to hop a fence like an armed boss from time to time?

[The True Adonis]

If you're agile and in shape, it is fun to jump fences.



maybe dude just likes to hop a fence like an armed boss from time to time?

[Bad Boy Dazza]

You'd be wrong...does that surprise you?

I wasn't far off - certainly below mine.  Average cop IQ is 104.

[Agnostic007]

I wasn't far off - certainly below mine.  Average cop IQ is 104.

Cool, seen that number before. If you would be so kind as to give  me the link not to the news story of the guy with the 125 IQ who was not hired in New London, but the link to the actual study, we can dissect it together and see if it holds up to some scrutiny. 

[El Diablo Blanco]

It's not just about smarts. It's physical tests, mental tests and interviews. Being smart just doesn't qualify you to be a cop.

[Agnostic007]

It's not just about smarts. It's physical tests, mental tests and interviews. Being smart just doesn't qualify you to be a cop.

Agreed. Also, I don't know of any departments that give an IQ test so the 104 is suspect at best. It was also from before 1996 and many departments started requiring some college or a degree. I'm not saying all cops are smart, that isn't the case and we've got a few that have been on the force for 20 yrs who slipped through the cracks and can't write a decent report to save their life. But the young ones these days seem to be of better than average intelligence. Fortunately, most of the criminals we have to deal with are in the double digits so 104 would be more than adequate     

[tu_holmes]

Agreed. Also, I don't know of any departments that give an IQ test so the 104 is suspect at best. It was also from before 1996 and many departments started requiring some college or a degree. I'm not saying all cops are smart, that isn't the case and we've got a few that have been on the force for 20 yrs who slipped through the cracks and can't write a decent report to save their life. But the young ones these days seem to be of better than average intelligence. Fortunately, most of the criminals we have to deal with are in the double digits so 104 would be more than adequate     

Which departments?

LA Sheriff does not. Nor does LAPD, or NYPD (If you have military experience).

I would actually argue that most departments only require you to be 21, a US citizen, and not a felon.

[Agnostic007]

Which departments?

LA Sheriff does not. Nor does LAPD, or NYPD (If you have military experience).

I would actually argue that most departments only require you to be 21, a US citizen, and not a felon.

This is from a quick google search. Ours did up until about 2 months ago when the Chief got rid of the requirement, arguing that we were losing out on potential candidates and that our in house screening and requirements would still insure we get the best recruits.


Police Agencies That Require a
Four-Year College Degree for New Officers

As of August 23, 2006 PACE is aware that the below listed departments require, by policy or practice, a four year college degree for entering officers. (Asterisk  indicates that extensive law enforcement with AA degree or military experience with AA Degree is acceptable in some cases.) Where known, department web site addresses are shown.

Please send any additions or corrections to loumayo@police-association.org

 Colorado

    Arvada Police Department
    Boulder Police Department
    Lakewood Police Department 
    Pueblo Police Department

California

    Redlands Police Department
    Vallejo

Delaware

    Delaware River and Bay Authority Police Department

Georgia

    Georgia Bureau of Investigation
    Peachtree City Police Department

Illinois

    Elgin Police Department
    Illinois State Police
    Naperville Police Department
    Palatine Police Department
    Schaumburg Police Department
    Tinley Park Police Department
    Wheaton Police Department
    Willowbrook Police Department
    Wilmette Police Department

Maryland

    Chevy Chase Village

Massachusetts

    Holden Police Department

Michigan

    Bloomfield Township Police Department
    Flint Police Department
    Flint Township Police Department
    Michigan State University Police and Public Safety
    Milford Police Department
    North Hills Police Department
    Norton Shores Police Department
    Novi City Police Department
    Owosso Police Department

Minnesota

    Burnsville Police Department
    Eagan City Police Department
    St. Cloud 

Missouri

    Richmond Heights Police Department

New Jersey

    Cherry Hill Police Department
    Dover Township Police Department
    Eatontown Police Department
    Haddon Township Police Department
    Leonia Police Department
    Mahwah Police Department
    Montvale Police Department
    Montgomery Township Police Department
    Rutgers University

North Carolina

    Gaston County Police Department

North Dakota

    *North Dakota Highway Patrol

Ohio

    Centerville Police Department
    City of Oakwood
    City of Canfield Police Department
    Cleveland Heights Police Department
    Middleburg Heights Police Department
    Strongsville Police Department

Oklahoma

    Tulsa Police Department

Oregon

    Multnomah County Sheriff's Office

Pennsylvania

    Bethel Park Police Department
    Borough of Gettysburg Police Department
    Edinboro Police Department
    Green Tree Borough Police Department
    Mt. Lebanon Police Department
    O’Hara Township Police Department
    Peter's Township Police Department
    Shaler Township
    South Park Township Police Department
    Upper Moreland Police Department

Rhode Island

    Smithfield Police Department

South Carolina

    Charleston City Police Department
    Richland County Sheriff's Department

Tennessee

    Johnson City Police Department

Texas

    Arlington Police Department
    Deer Park Police Department
    Highland Park Police Department
    Murphy, TX
    *Plano Police Department
    Sugar Land Police Department
    University Park Police Department 

Wisconsin

    Appleton Police Department
    Langlade County Sheriff's Department
    Platteville Police Department
    Whitefish Bay Police Department

SPECIAL JURISDICTION DEPARTMENTS

    Arizona Game & Fish Department - Law Enforcement
    Bergen County, New Jersey,  Prosecutor's Investigators
    Burlington County, New Jersey, Prosecutor's Police
    Cook County (IL) State's Attorney
    Hudson County, New Jersey, Prosecutor's Investigators
    California Department of Alcoholic Beverage Control
    Colorado Department of Conservation/Wildlife
    Delaware River and Bay Authority Police Department
    Illinois Department of Natural Resources
    Missouri Department of Conservation - Law Enforcement
    Oklahoma Department of Wildlife Conservation Law Enforcement Division
    South Carolina Department of Natural Resources/ Law Enforcement Division
    Tennessee Bureau of Investigations
    Tennessee Wildlife Resources Agency - Law Enforcement
    Texas Parks and Wildlife Department - Law Enforcement
    Virginia Department of Alcoholic Beverage Control
    Washington State Department of Fish and Wildlife
    *West Virginia State Department of Natural Resources

 

[OneMoreRep]

I was PISSED that the dude was hiding in a boat the entire.  RIGHT BEHIND the house where the guy video'd the gunfight.  He went out for a smoke today and saw his tarp was adjusted, looked in, and saw bad guy.

Fucking terrible police work, not to search outdoor hiding spaces approx 200 feet from the shooting lol... pathetic.

yes, they're getting applauded, yes, they had a shitty day and were brave to show up and do the manhunt.. but SOMEONE should have searched that damn boat.

What bothered me was that when they started to publicly thank all the various law enforcement agencies involved in the capture of the individuals, they forgot to thank the biggest hero of them all, which was the owner of that boat, who simply went outside and caught the kid hiding inside of it.

Without that guy's help, the second individual could have disappeared all together.

"1"

[tu_holmes]

Of the literal THOUSANDS of agencies in the country, those do.

That's not even close to "Most".

[Agnostic007]

What bothered me was that when they started to publicly thank all the various law enforcement agencies involved in the capture of the individuals, they forgot to thank the biggest hero of them all, which was the owner of that boat, who simply went outside and caught the kid hiding inside of it.

Without that guy's help, the second individual could have disappeared all together.

"1"

I didn't see the actual speech but if that is the case, then jeez... The public is so much a part of a departments success, calling in suspicious persons, burglaries in progress and other crimes that departments should go OUT OF THEIR WAY to make sure they are recognized.

[The True Adonis]

What bothered me was that when they started to publicly thank all the various law enforcement agencies involved in the capture of the individuals, they forgot to thank the biggest hero of them all, which was the owner of that boat, who simply went outside and caught the kid hiding inside of it.

Without that guy's help, the second individual could have disappeared all together.

"1"

No, he would have bled out and died in that boat. He was in there all night with bullet wounds from the night before.  Foot and neck/trap area.

[The Abdominal Snoman]

And this is why you don't have a clue... at 25 seconds you see the cops leaving cover to start to move to a better vantage point or to a location they needed to be at. At that very moment shots are fired. Only a stupid, idiotic moron would not move faster to the next cover. This is why you really need to leave the commenting to people with experience or just a simple base knowledge..  

Give me your base knowledge on how come over 500 cops and FBI never looked under the tarp of the boat which wasn't far from the street shooting?

[Soul Crusher]

Russia asked FBI to investigate Tamerlan Tsarnaev in 2011 – report


http://rt.com/news/fbi-tsarnaev-foreign-request-150


 
Edited time: April 20, 2013 19:18

A FBI agent enters the apartment building door of Alina Tsarnaeva on April 19, 2013 in West New York, New Jersey (AFP Photo / John Moore)

Russia asked the FBI to investigate Boston bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev in 2011, a source in US law enforcement told Reuters. The FBI had earlier reported on its website that an unnamed ‘foreign government’ had asked them for information.

The slain Boston marathon bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev, who previously was designated as Suspect 1, was investigated in 2011 by the FBI upon a certain foreign state’s request.

The state, which was not identified in the statement on the FBI website, filed a request concerning Tsarnaev saying that he was a follower of radical Islam and was preparing to leave the US for a particular region to join “unspecified underground groups.”

The FBI says they checked all the information possible, looking for “derogatory telephone communications, possible use of online sites associated with the promotion of radical activity, associations with other persons of interest,” and checking the suspect’s travel history, plans, and education history.

Tsarnaev and his family members were also interviewed by the FBI.

Upon analyzing the data, the FBI had found nothing suspicious at the time.

“The FBI did not find any terrorism activity, domestic or foreign, and those results were provided to the foreign government in the summer of 2011. The FBI requested but did not receive more specific or additional information from the foreign government,” the FBI statement says.

[The Abdominal Snoman]

What bothered me was that when they started to publicly thank all the various law enforcement agencies involved in the capture of the individuals, they forgot to thank the biggest hero of them all, which was the owner of that boat, who simply went outside and caught the kid hiding inside of it.

Without that guy's help, the second individual could have disappeared all together.

"1"

Does anyone know exactly how far that boat was from the street shootout?

[Nails]

Does anyone know exactly how far that boat was from the street shootout?

TA said he was under 3/4 of a mile from where he ditched the stolen Mercedes SUV

[Nomad]

Wow ...At 26 seconds it looks like 2 cops run for there lives. If true, these two should be given their walking papers 2mrw. I hope that they were running around that house and gonna hit from a different position. But something tells me they bailed. It's not that I blame them, its just tax payer money shouldn't fund their lives anymore imop.

dude this isn't fucking super commando vs predator... either hit th deck or run for cover.

[Radical Plato]

That was priceless, I just had to make a gif of it.



and the other one too. LOL

[Agnostic007]

Give me your base knowledge on how come over 500 cops and FBI never looked under the tarp of the boat which wasn't far from the street shooting?

What do you define as "wasn't far"? If the distance of 3/4 mile is what we are working with, there could be a couple reasons. 3/4 distance in all directions of the vehicle is a very significant radius.

[Agnostic007]

"Officials announced at 6:00 p.m. news conference that they had been unable to apprehend the suspect, despite combing through a 20-block area of the Boston suburb of Watertown and shutting down the city's entire public transportation system in an effort to prevent him from fleeing. They said they did not know if he had a car, or if he was still on foot. The home where Tsarnaev was eventually discovered was outside the 20-block perimeter, and had not been searched."

A 20 block perimeter is pretty extensive.. and reasonable.

[quadzilla456]

Most of you guys are mental midgets with your comments about the cops. If someone is shooting at you running for cover seems to be great tactics before engaging. Cops are dummies? When the  NJ State Police post openings  for a 100 positions for their $105K job without overtime they get 10,000 applications. In that group of applications there are many professionals with advance degrees of all types applying. You guys Monday morning quarterbacking shows what kind of dopes you are.

Regarding the out of shape FBI agents you got me on that one. Most are not really elite physical cops but attorneys, computer,accountants, and language experts. They are looking for thinkers and not the physical. They select from the band and not the football team.

Maybe the recruiters are looking for the dummies intentionally and overlooking the sharp ones?