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« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2013, 09:38:09 PM »
Immigrants More Likely to Identify as Liberal, Put International Law Over Constitution
FrontPageMag.com ^ | Arpil 21, 2013 | Daniel Greenfield
Posted on April 22, 2013 12:30:21 AM EDT by Perseverando

This study from the Hudson Institute has wider implications beyond the current debate over amnesty. It places the blame for its findings on a failure of patriotism.

A country whose educational institutions are less patriotic and more liberal will play a crucial role in the shaping of a less patriotic and more liberal population. Immigrants who tend to get their identity more from education than national culture (tellingly immigrants are more likely to rank professors higher than soldiers, in contrast to native-born Americans) are more likely to lean left.

For example the study finds that immigrants are more likely to identify as liberal and less likely to identify as moderate. 36 percent of immigrants identify as liberal versus 22 percent of native born Americans.



This has grimmer implications when it comes to the United States Constitution.

67.3% of the native-born think the U.S. Constitution should be the highest legal authority for Americans, but the majority of immigrant citizens think differently.
Only 37% of immigrant citizens think the U.S.Constitution should be the highest authority for Americans. 29% of immigrant citizens think international law should be above the US Constitution and 34% of them remain unsure

And that calls us back to basic questions of identity.

29 percent of immigrants consider themselves citizens of the world

That is not a good number when you are trying to build a nation, rather than another stop on the globalization tour. And that has national security implications as well.

Should the U.S. allow immigration of radical Islamists who are against the U.S. Constitution and favor replacing it with Islamic law?

Only 47.5 percent of immigrants believe we should definitely not, compared to 70 percent of native-born Americans

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Re: Obama to push For immigration bill. FUBO! FNG TOTUS
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2013, 09:42:32 PM »
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Obama = Terrorist of the United States.

And yes.  FU. Rubio.

props for consistency across the board.  They're all pandering for 2016 votes.  it's pathetic and inevitable... like one candidate saying "I'll give you $5 for every vote".  The other candidate has to do it too. 

Rubio and obama fighting to see who can become the "I'm the amnesty guy!" first.   Pathetic.

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Re: Obama to push For immigration bill. FUBO! FNG TOTUS
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2013, 04:25:06 AM »
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Obama = Terrorist of the United States.

And yes.  FU. Rubio.

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Must Watch: ICE Union Leader Reveals Shocking Details About Immigration Enforcement
 the Blaze ^ | Feb. 13, 2013 | Jason Howerton

Posted on Tuesday, April 23, 2013 8:40:07 AM by 11th_VA

Chris Crane, president of the National Immigration and Customs Enforcement Council 118, made a number of stunning revelations during his testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee on Wednesday — and he’s begging Congress for help. The ICE union boss argued that agents are no longer allowed to arrest illegal aliens solely for illegal entry or expired visas and morale is at an all-time low.

Most Americans would be shocked to find out that immigration agents are regularly “prohibited from enforcing the two most fundamental sections of United States immigration law,” he said. Instead, the administration has ordered that only illegals charged or convicted of “very serious criminal offenses” may be arrested or charged by ICE agents and officers.

“In fact, under current policy individuals legally in the United States must now be convicted of 3 or more criminal misdemeanors before ICE agents are permitted to charge or arrest the illegal alien for illegal entry or overstaying a visa,” he added. That is unless the misdemeanors involve assault, sexual abuse or drug trafficking.

Even more shocking, Crane said ICE agents or officers who witness a violation of immigration law are prohibited from making arrests and even from asking questions “under the threat of disciplinary action.”


Citing a recent morale survey disseminated throughout federal agencies, Crane said ICE ranks 279 out of 291 in employee morale and job satisfaction. He has previously asked the Obama administration to help address the plummeting morale and dissatisfaction among ICE agents.

Meanwhile, the Obama administration is continually making it nearly impossible for agents to enforce federal immigration law because they allow special interests groups to influence policy, Crane explained.

“The day-to day duties of ICE agents and officers often seem in conflict with the law as ICE officers are prohibited from enforcing many laws enacted by Congress; laws they took an oath to enforce,” he said. “ICE is now guided in large part by influences of powerful special interest groups that advocate on behalf of illegal aliens.”

Crane continued: “These influences have in large part eroded the order, stability and effectiveness of the agency, creating confusion among ICE employees. For the last four years it has been a roller coaster for ICE officers with regard to who they can or cannot arrest, and which federal laws they will be permitted to enforce. Most of these directives restricting enforcement are given only verbally to prevent written evidence from reaching the public.”

 All of these restrictions being placed on ICE employees has put them in increased danger and the agency has seen assaults against ICE officers and agents continue to rise as “ICE arrestees become increasingly more violent and criminal in nature.”

You may be surprised to know that ICE agents are also prohibited from carrying life saving protective equipment like Tasers while on duty. Crane said ICE won’t approve the equipment due to “political reasons.”

“Death or serious injury to ICE officers and agents appears more acceptable to ICE, DHS and administration leadership than the public complaints that would be lodged by special interest groups,” he added.

Crane closed with this:

“In closing, while deeply concerned by the actions of our agency, as well as the current state and future of immigration enforcement, we are optimistic that all of these matters can be resolved with the assistance of members of Congress.

Only time will tell if lawmakers will answer the repeated pleas for help. Nearly a dozen immigration agents have sued the Obama administration for the right to enforce immigration law.

Just as a side note, despite being AFL-CIO affiliates, the union representing ICE agents has been shunned by AFL-CIO President Richard Trumpka and shut out of the development of immigration policy with the union and the Obama administration. The ICE agents union reportedly made multiple attempts to contact Trumpka’s top advisors to resolve the situation but have been ignored

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Re: Obama & Rubio to push For immigration bill. FUBO! FUMR!
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2013, 07:58:18 AM »
Immigration reform could be bonanza for Democrats
By: Emily Schultheis
April 22, 2013 09:59 PM EDT
 
The immigration proposal pending in Congress would transform the nation’s political landscape for a generation or more — pumping as many as 11 million new Hispanic voters into the electorate a decade from now in ways that, if current trends hold, would produce an electoral bonanza for Democrats and cripple Republican prospects in many states they now win easily.

Beneath the philosophical debates about amnesty and border security, there are brass-tacks partisan calculations driving the thinking of lawmakers in both parties over comprehensive immigration reform, which in its current form offers a pathway to citizenship — and full voting rights — for a group of undocumented residents that roughly equals the population of Ohio, the nation’s seventh-largest state.

If these people had been on the voting rolls in 2012 and voted along the same lines as other Hispanic voters did last fall, President Barack Obama’s relatively narrow victory last fall would have been considerably wider, a POLITICO analysis showed.

(PHOTOS: 20 quotes on immigration reform)

Key swing states that Obama fought tooth and nail to win — like Florida, Colorado and Nevada — would have been comfortably in his column. And the president would have come very close to winning Arizona.

Republican Mitt Romney, by contrast, would have lost the national popular vote by 7 percentage points, 53 percent to 46 percent, instead of the 4-point margin he lost by in 2012, and would have struggled even to stay competitive in GOP strongholds like Texas, which he won with 57 percent of the vote.

The analysis is based on U.S. Census and Pew Research Center estimates of illegal immigrant populations by state, and presidential exit polls showing how Obama and Romney performed among Latinos.

(Also on POLITICO: Ryan steps into immigration fray)

Extrapolating 2012 voting trends to the 2028 presidential election — the first in which previously undocumented Hispanics could exercise their voting rights after a 13-year path to citizenship — is an inherently speculative exercise. But it is one that highlights the political sword hanging over Republicans as they consider immigration reform with a path to citizenship, an idea that is already deeply unpopular with many red-state constituencies.

To support the measure virtually guarantees millions of new Democratic voters. But for Republicans to oppose immigration reform invites hostility among Hispanic-Americans who already are punishing the GOP and imperiling its electoral prospects.

This reality, say many Republican strategists, gives the party no long-term alternative but to welcome the new voters and hope this allows the party to compete for Hispanic voters in ways that are closer to how President George W. Bush performed in 2004. National exit polls that year showed he won 44 percent of the Hispanic vote. Some analysts have questioned this data, but there is little doubt that Bush performed significantly better with this group than Romney, who got just 27 percent.

(Also on POLITICO: Grassley, Schumer trade fireworks on immigration)

If Republicans do nothing to repair their relationships with current and future Latino voters, “we certainly won’t be a national political party anymore,” said GOP strategist Steve Schmidt, a top adviser to John McCain in 2008.

If one adds 11 million new Hispanic voters after immigration reform but applies 2004 percentages, the damage to Republicans is real but much less severe: Romney would have still won border states Texas and Arizona, albeit by smaller margins, while Obama would have held other Latino-heavy swing states like Nevada and Florida by slightly larger margins than the ones he did win by.

 


The POLITICO analysis is intended to reflect the GOP’s broader dilemma on immigration issues; it is not meant to be specifically predictive. There is no way of knowing how many of the estimated 11 million undocumented workers would ultimately succeed in gaining citizenship, nor any certainty of what their turnout percentages would be once they gain voting rights.

Republican strategists say many Hispanics have characteristics — strong Catholicism, and small-business backgrounds — that could make them natural targets for GOP messaging if the party can get past the immigration issue. Historically, however, there is no mistaking the reality that most Hispanics trend Democratic during their early years of voting.

To realize those gains, Democrats would have to succeed at the colossal challenge of registering and turning out newly naturalized citizens.

While there’s still little research specifically about Latin American immigrants’ voting behavior once they become citizens, research on other immigrant groups shows that they tend to turn out and vote at much lower rates than U.S.-born citizens.

“It’s one thing to register these people, and it’s another to turn them out to vote,” said Jill Hanauer, president of the Democratic group Project New America. “Newly registered, newly eligible Hispanic voters have much lower turnout propensity.”

At least at first, recently naturalized voters tend to vote Democratic — though more and more of them identify as independents or aren’t registering with either party.

“When you look at any immigrant group that’s lower on the socioeconomic ladder, they’ve traditionally voted Democratic,” said Schmidt. “But we can certainly win a percentage of them … that needs to be higher than 30 percent.”

To illustrate the potential voting shifts once immigrants are able to vote, look at Texas, Arizona and Georgia. The total undocumented immigrant population in each of those states exceeds Romney’s margin of victory.

Texas, where the unauthorized immigrant population is second only to California’s, had an estimated 1.65 million undocumented immigrants in 2010, according to statistics from the Pew Hispanic Center. Romney won the state in 2012 by just under 1.3 million votes.

In Arizona, Romney won by 212,000 votes — and there are an estimated 400,000 undocumented immigrants in the state as of 2010.

Even Georgia, which isn’t a border state and doesn’t immediately come to mind when thinking of immigrant-heavy states, would be affected: Georgia had an estimated 425,000 undocumented immigrants in 2010, per Pew Hispanic Center’s estimates, and Romney won there by 308,000 votes.

If all those immigrants had voted in 2012 and President Obama had won 71 percent of them — the percentage he won among Latinos nationally — he would have come in less than 50,000 votes short in Arizona, within about a half-million votes of winning Texas and 125,000 votes shy in Georgia.


In competitive states that went for Obama in 2012 — such as Nevada, Colorado and New Mexico — additional Latino voters would have increased his margins significantly.

Still, there may be reason to hope for Republicans down the line, particularly if they’re perceived as proactively working to reform the immigration system.

“Undocumented immigrants are aware of politics, but they don’t really have any party allegiance yet, because they’re not in the regular system,” said Matt Barreto, pollster at Latino Decisions. “When asked [about their political party] in surveys, huge majorities just say independent, none or other.”

Polling by Latino Decisions found Latino voters would be willing to vote for a Republican candidate if the party had taken a leading role in the immigration reform process — a trend that could translate to new Latino citizens as well.

Of currently registered Latino voters who voted for Obama in 2012, almost half of them — 43 percent — said they’d be willing to vote for a GOP candidate if the party takes a “leadership role” in passing immigration reform.

“Past analysis suggested that immigrants are more likely to be Democrats, but that’s because the Republican Party has been spewing anti-immigrant rhetoric,” Barreto said. “So I would say everything in the past is not relevant if the Republican Party decides to change its image and its rhetoric.”

Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart (R-Fla.) agreed, saying Republicans can improve their standing among Latinos if they actively participate in the reform process.

“Immigration has been used by Democrats as a very effective tool to try to brand Republicans as anti-immigrant,” he said. “I think we have to take it off the table so that the Republican Party can start talking about the issues where we do very, very well and I’m convinced that we will do very, very well.”

And, as some Republicans have argued repeatedly, the GOP message is one that should, at its core, appeal to Latino voters.

“It’s always been the case with immigrant groups that when, they move into their second and third generations, when they have the chance to move up the socioeconomic ladder to become more entrepreneurial … that should open them, and has opened past immigrant groups, to the Republican message,” said Schmidt.

These changes are far in the future: Newly naturalized citizens won’t even start phasing into the electorate for several more election cycles. The discussions about a path to citizenship call for a 13-year process, which would mean both parties have a very long time to prepare for the influx of new voters.

“These voters are going to enter the electorate a very, very long time from now,” Barreto said. “So that means nothing is going to be immediate.”

Seung Min Kim contributed to this report.
 
© 2013 POLITICO LLC
 

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Re: Obama & Rubio to push For immigration bill. FUBO! FUMR!
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2013, 09:34:23 AM »
99.5% of illegal immigrants get approval for legal status; high number raises concerns about fraud
 


 
The administration has approved 99.5 percent of applications of those who have applied for legal status under President Obama's nondeportation policy for young adults, granting legal status to more than 250,000 formerly illegal immigrants.[/color]
 
Officials said they expect the approval rate to drop as more cases make their way through the system, as it takes longer to deny an application than to approve it. Indeed, the approval rate already has dropped from 99.8 percent just a month ago.
 
But the high rate leaves others wondering whether the administration is doing all it can to weed out fraud or potentially dangerous illegal immigrants in DACA, or the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, as it's formally known.
 
"You really have to wonder who they're giving deferred action to, and what kind of risk they represent to us," said Jessica Vaughan, director of policy studies at the Center for Immigration Studies. "The screening process is much less for DACA than it would be for a green card, and so it's all that much more susceptible to fraud."
 
DACA is seen by many as a test-run should Congress pass a broad legalization for most of the 11 million illegal immigrants in the U.S.
 
That means the pressure is on Homeland Security to get it right, and officials say they are taking steps to combat fraud, including warning that bogus applicants will be prosecuted and deported.
 
Mr. Obama created the program last summer to try to help illegal immigrants who were brought to the U.S. as children by their parents.
 
His policy allows them to remain and work in the U.S. on tentative legal status with no fear of deportation, though they do not have a direct path to citizenship. That path could come, though, under the immigration bill senators are beginning to debate, which would give DACA-approved immigrants a speedier chance at citizenship.
 
On Monday, one of those legalized under DACA pleaded with Congress to give her that chance.
 
"Legalizing people like me, the 11 million of us, will make the United States stronger and will bring about significant economic gains," said Gabriel Pacheco, who was brought to the U.S. from Ecuador at age 8 by her parents. "Doing nothing is no longer acceptable."
 
Her situation captures the complexities of American immigration: One of her sisters is about to earn citizenship as the wife of a U.S. citizen, with two citizen children; another sister is here illegally and didn't qualify for DACA because she was too old; and her younger brother, 27, who owns a carwashing business, did qualify. Ms. Pacheco's husband, meanwhile, is a Venezuelan who has lived in the U.S. for 26 years and earned his green card last year after an 18-year wait.
 
Mr. Obama announced the DACA policy in June, and the government began taking applications in August.
 
It was a galvanizing moment for immigrant rights advocates, and Hispanic voters in particular rewarded the president by voting for his re-election in overwhelming numbers.
 
The policy applies to illegal immigrants who were brought to the U.S. before age 16 and who were not yet 31 when the program was announced.
 
Illegal immigrants with serious criminal records aren't supposed to qualify. To be eligible, applicants must have graduated from high school or earned an equivalency degree or served in the military.
 
Through the first 7 months of the program, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) approved 268,316 illegal immigrants for tentative legal status, while denying just 1,377 applications.
 
A Homeland Security official said the denials will tick up as time passes. Those whom the department plans to reject are given time to submit more evidence or appeal their denial, while approvals go through immediately.
 
For example, while USCIS approved 29,793 applications in the first six weeks of the program, it denied just six applications, or one out of every 5,000. But in March, the agency approved about 98.2 percent, meaning it denied nine out of every 500 applications.
 
"USCIS has issued some denials but expects denial rates to increase once requests for evidence and notice of intent to deny responses are received and reviewed by USCIS," a Homeland Security official said.
 
Louis "Don" Crocetti Jr., who retired in 2011 after serving as the head of the USCIS fraud branch, also predicted his old agency's denial rate will rise because of how it handles cases.
 
"It's not uncommon, in fact it is more common than not, that the questionable cases are put on the back end in order to [make sure] the more deserving candidates get the benefit," said Mr. Crocetti, who now runs the Immigration Integrity Group, a consultancy.
 
Cesar Vargas, one of those who has gained legal status under DACA and is executive political director of DRM Action Coalition, said the high approval rate makes sense given who is in this pool of immigrants.
 
"I am not surprised, just as most Americans and senators should not be not surprised, since many of the DACA applicants who applied were youth and students who were committed to their school and work," Mr. Vargas said. "Dreamers have been in the U.S. for most of our lives such that it was not as difficult to put the paperwork proving our presence and moral character."
 
Through the end of March, the department had received 472,004 completed applications and had settled nearly 270,000 of them.
 
Mr. Crocetti said DACA is a chance for the administration to test its screening process as it prepares for the possibility of a broad legalization for all 11 million illegal immigrants now in the U.S.
 
"We are in a post-9/11 world, as most recently evinced by the events in Boston," he said. "This is a pivotal time that we have to get this right. We have to screen these people accurately, and we really have to know what are the key indicators to look for when these people file."
 
Unlike the 1986 amnesty, when every applicant was interviewed in person and there still was double-digit fraud Mr. Crocetti said that's not likely to be an option this time around. But he said technology has become so advanced that the agency can come up with analytical tools that can predict applications most likely to be fraudulent.
 
Ms. Vaughan, the policy director at the Center for Immigration Studies, which favors a crackdown on immigration, said that in the wake of the Boston Marathon bombings that should be a priority for any legalization program, including the ongoing DACA system.
 
"That's very concerning in light of the most recent reminder namely this terror attack in Boston, near where I live," she said, "that we simply are not taking enough care in screening the people we admit for legal status whether it's this kind of deferred action or a green card or an asylum application."
 

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Re: Obama & Rubio to push For immigration bill. FUBO! FUMR!
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2013, 12:20:13 PM »
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Re: Obama & Rubio to push For immigration bill. FUBO! FUMR!
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2013, 12:59:09 PM »
So is this the "Sweeping Reform" that will see complete amnesty given and then erect a huge number of new laws that will never, ever be enforced?

Awesome, can't wait. I'm sure it will be a slam, bang, hum-dinger just like ObamaCare will be.

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Re: Obama & Rubio to push For immigration bill. FUBO! FUMR!
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2013, 08:08:24 AM »
Gang of Eight loopholes put many illegal immigrants on fast track to citizenship
 Washington Examiner ^ | Friday April 26, 2013 | Bryon York

Posted on Friday, April 26, 2013 10:51:08 AM by Bigtigermike

Members of the Senate’s bipartisan Gang of Eight have stressed that under their new immigration plan, currently illegal immigrants will have to wait more than a decade before achieving citizenship. Newly-legalized immigrants will be given a provisional status and “will have to stay in that status until at least ten years elapse and [border security] triggers are met,” Florida Republican Sen. Marco Rubio told Fox News on April 14. “Then the only thing they get is a chance to apply for a green card via the legal immigration system.” The green card process would take additional years, meaning the road to full citizenship could take as long as 15, or even 18, years. Unless it doesn’t. A little-noticed exception in the Gang of Eight bill provides a fast track for many — possibly very many — currently illegal immigrants. Under a special provision for immigrants who have labored at least part-time in agriculture, that fast track could mean permanent residency in the U.S., and then citizenship, in half the time Rubio said. And not just for the immigrants themselves — their spouses and children, too.

A second provision in the legislation creates another fast track for illegal immigrants who came to the United States before they were 16 — the so-called Dreamers. The concept suggests youth, but the bill has no age limit for such immigrants — or their spouses and children — and despite claims that they must go to college or serve in the military to be eligible, there is an exception to that requirement as well.


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WASHINGTON (AP) - President Barack Obama is headed to Mexico with a domestic ambition at the top of his travel agenda. To sell his immigration overhaul back home, he needs a growing economy in Mexico and a Mexican president willing to help him secure the border.

Obama was to fly to Mexico City on Thursday to meet with President Enrique Pena Nieto, eager to promote Mexico's economic success and the neighboring country's place as the second largest export market for U.S. goods and services. Mexicans will be hanging on the president's words, but Obama also has in mind an important audience back in the United States.

Though the role played by Latino voters in last year's U.S. presidential election gets much credit for the current momentum for changing immigration laws and providing a path to citizenship for 11 million immigrants in the U.S. illegally, another reason for the change in attitudes is that stronger border protections and the recession have been disincentives to cross into the U.S. As a result, illegal immigration has declined.

"With Mexico, first and foremost, they are critical to our ability to secure the border," said Ben Rhodes, an Obama deputy national security adviser. "All the immigration plans that have been contemplated put a focus on securing the border as an essential priority and starting point for immigration reform."

Even better than a strong border is an economy that keeps people from fleeing.

"If the Mexican economy is growing, it forestalls the need for people to migrate to the United States to find work," Rhodes added.

Eager to focus on the economy and immigration, the administration is downplaying Pena Nieto's recent steps to end the broad access Mexico gave U.S. security agencies to help fight drug trafficking and organized crime under his predecessor, Felipe Calderon. Still, the changes are likely to be a subject during the two leaders' private talks. Obama said this week he wouldn't judge the new moves until he heard directly from Mexican officials.

Pena Nieto took office in December, and for Obama the trip is an opportunity to take his measure of the Mexican leader early in his tenure.

"It's really important to go there while this new president is forming his own plans and judgments about what he's going to do about the border, about where he's going to be on immigration, about where he is on trade," U.S. Chamber of Commerce President/CEO Thomas Donohue said in an interview.

The chamber long has worked to improve U.S.-Mexico trade, noting that now about 6 million U.S. jobs depend on commerce with Mexico.

Striking the right note on border security is key, Donohue said, because it is a central to winning support in Congress for the rest of the immigration legislation.

"That's what everybody wants to hear, and we have to do that in a way that makes these guys down there feel like we're doing it in conjunction with them and for them, so we can do this thing on immigration well, so we can expand our trade, so we can deal with our political issues as they are trying to deal with theirs," Donohue said.

Still, with 33 million U.S. residents of Mexican origin, Obama's message in Mexico is also bound to resonate in the U.S., where Latinos could increase pressure on Congress to act.

"It helps keep these passions alive as far as an issue to promote for the administration," said Carl Meacham, a former senior Latin America adviser on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

But Meacham, now director of the Americas program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, cautioned that despite some bipartisan support to create a path to citizenship in the immigration bill, there is skepticism in Latin America. "They've been brought to the altar so many times by different American administrations that there's a little bit of a lack of trust," he said.

For Pena Nieto, Obama's visit is a chance for him to showcase his country's economic gains. After suffering along with the U.S. during the recession, its economy is now growing at a better clip than that of the U.S. Per capita income has gone from an annual $7,900 two years ago to $10,146. But Diana Negroponte, a Latin America expert at the Brookings Institution, says corruption remains endemic, human rights are still a problem, and efforts to change and improve the judicial system have been too slow.

"There is concern on our side of the border that greater help needs to be given in order for Mexico to reform its system," she said.

Pena Nieto's changes in the security relationship with the U.S. have prompted some U.S. officials to speculate that the new president might be embracing the policies of his Institutional Revolutionary Party, which long has favored centralized political and bureaucratic control.

Among those watching the new steps is Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., who has held up $228 million sought by the Obama administration for Mexico under a security cooperation agreement. Under the agreement, known as the Merida Initiative, Congress has already given Mexico more than $1.9 billion in aid since 2008.

But Leahy, chairman of the Senate Appropriations subcommittee that oversees the State Department budget, has been a critic of how the money has been used and with the results.

"Congress has been asked for a significant new investment, but it's not clear what the new Mexican government's intensions are," Leahy said in a statement to The Associated Press. "We're in a period of uncertainty until we know enough to be able to reset that part of our relationship. I'm not ready to sign off on more money without a lot more details."

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Re: Obama & Rubio to push For immigration bill. FUBO! FUMR!
« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2013, 10:08:31 AM »
Why have any immigration laws?  What's the point?  Protecting the border makes Mexicans feel bad about themselves.  Lets just slit our own throats culturally, politically and economically to save our enemies the trouble.  After all, our nation is made up of white Christians who are responsible for all the evil of society.  They are constantly oppressing the peace loving, morally superior, dark peoples of the world.   

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« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2013, 06:24:47 AM »
Committing National suicide makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside!

But, don't worry-- to be eligible for amnesty, you just have to be a Mexican high school graduate!

That provision will attract the kinds of highly skilled workers that will boost the US economy!  ::)


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« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2013, 08:49:34 AM »
Cesar Conda – Marco Rubio’s chief of staff worked for George Soros



Cesar Conda is Marco Rubio’s Chief of Staff. He recently made his Tweets private (protected) so the general public can’t ready them. Cesar Conda has been pushing amnesty for illegals on Twitter and else as Marco Rubio’s PR agent. Conda, who is an immigration lawyer, went to work for George Soros before becoming Rubio’s Chief of Staf. Cesar Conda worked on the editorial advisory board ofG George Soros magazine, The International Economy Magazine.
 
Cesar Conda had been spinning lies about the amnesty bill about how illegal wouldn’t get welfare, wait more than 10 years for citizenship, etc. Those lies have been completely debunked.
 
Another Rubio spokesperson, Alex Conant, recently compared illegal aliens living and working in this country to the institution of slavery.
 
So now you understand why Marco Rubio is so gung ho for amnesty. He surrounds himself with a George Soros monkey like Cesar Conda and other idiots like Alex Conant. Sad that Rubio is turning to be such a huge disappointment. At this point, he doesn’t seem much different than Charlie Christ.
 
Even the left wing media is in love with Conda. Check out this gushing review of him by leftist biased National Journal:
 

Conda has one of the toughest jobs in town right now: He has to help Rubio negotiate an immigration bill with the rest of the Gang of Eight that will be palatable to Republicans and not damage his boss’s conservative credentials in the process. “That’s a tough circle to square, but I think Cesar is the right man for the job,” said Frank Sharry, founder and executive director of the pro-immigration reform group America’s Voice. “Rubio is really lucky to have Cesar Conda as his chief of staff.” Conda, known among colleagues for his even temper, has been working on the issue since the early 1990s when he was part of a group of young, libertarian-minded, pro-immigration conservatives. His government experience runs deep: He worked for former Sen. Spencer Abraham, R-Mich., and was an aide to Vice President Dick Cheney. He also spent time in the private sector as a lobbyist and analyst for the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and founded the Washington office of a consulting firm called Navigators Global.
 
The left must think of Cesar Conda as their Hispanic Obama or something.

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Re: Obama & Rubio to push For immigration bill. FUBO! FUMR!
« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2013, 10:30:14 AM »
Rubio ended up being quite the "YES" man for everything he said he was against.   Sounds like he wants to be the McCain for this generation?

33, would you spit at a person who told you today that Rubio represents the Tea party ideals? 

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« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2013, 10:31:12 AM »
Rubio ended up being quite the "YES" man for everything he said he was against.   Sounds like he wants to be the McCain for this generation?

33, would you spit at a person who told you today that Rubio represents the Tea party ideals? 

No -im not crude like that - just want to punch them in the face. 

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Re: Obama & Rubio to push For immigration bill. FUBO! FUMR!
« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2013, 10:38:24 AM »
No -im not crude like that - just want to punch them in the face. 

it's all about branding and rebranding.  Rubio looks at the success that McCain had... almost won nomination in 00 and finally did in 2008.  He wants to be that "moderate" republican and thinks since he's Hispanic, the job is his.  And hey, that might be the case.  The GOP doesn't exactly have a solid record of choosing conservatives... Betting men probably see a Jeb or Christie or Rubio - some big biz RINO - winning in 2016 over a Cruz, Rand, santorum, or other person who is actually for closing the border and responsible spending.

But hey, getbiggers will rally around Rubio if he's the guy.  They did for mccain and romney, two of the biggest phony RINOs in recent history.  Look back... Romney wrote a fcking gun ban LMAO... and repubs carried his sign because "at least it beats obama..."

It'd be sad to see that happen again.  I like Rand/Cruz in 2016.  I hope the GOP voters are smart enough to choose that. 

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Re: Obama & Rubio to push For immigration bill. FUBO! FUMR!
« Reply #19 on: April 13, 2015, 04:34:22 PM »
http://washingtonexaminer.com/obama-campaign-plans-major-push-for-gang-of-eight-immigration-bill/article/2527783


Obama = Terrorist of the United States.

And yes.  FU. Rubio.

When is souol crusher returning?  His commentary on Rubio would be awesome to hear!