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Officials found guilty in Obama, Clinton ballot petition fraud

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/04/26/officials-found-guilty-in-obama-clinton-ballot-petition-fraud/#ixzz2RahP8Sgp

This why I have always said, Obama is not a legit sitting president and not to be taken seriously.


A jury in South Bend, Indiana has found that fraud put President Obama and Hillary Clinton on the presidential primary ballot in Indiana in the 2008 election. Two Democratic political operatives were convicted Thursday night in the illegal scheme after only three hours of deliberations. They were found guilty on all counts.

Former longtime St. Joseph County Democratic party Chairman Butch Morgan Jr.  was found guilty of felony conspiracy counts to commit petition fraud and forgery, and former county Board of Elections worker Dustin Blythe was found guilty of felony forgery counts and falsely making a petition, after being accused of faking petitions that enabled Obama, then an Illinois Senator, to get on the presidential primary ballot for his first run for the White House.

Morgan was accused of being the mastermind behind the plot.

According to testimony from two former Board of Election officials who pled guilty, Morgan ordered Democratic officials and workers to fake the names and signatures that Obama and Clinton needed to qualify for the presidential race. Blythe, then a Board of Elections employee and Democratic Party volunteer, was accused of forging multiple pages of the Obama petitions.

"I think this helped uphold the integrity of the electoral system," the prosecutor, Stan Levco told reporters.

“Their verdict of guilt is not a verdict against Democrats, but for honest and fair elections,” he said.

The scheme was hatched in January of 2008, according to affidavits from investigators who cite former Board of Registration worker Lucas Burkett, who told them he was in on the plan at first, but then became uneasy and quit. He waited three years before telling authorities about it, but if revelations about any forgeries were raised during the election, the petitions could have been challenged during the contest. A candidate who did not qualify with enough legitimate signatures at the time, could have been bounced from the ballot.

The case raise questions about whether in 2008, then candidate Obama actually submitted enough legitimate signatures to have legally qualified for the primary ballot.

“I think had they been challenged successfully, he probably would not have been on the ballot,” Levco told Fox News.

Under state law, presidential candidates need to qualify for the primary ballots with 500 signatures from each of the state's nine congressional districts. Indiana election officials say that in St. Joseph County, which is the 2nd Congressional district, the Obama campaign qualified with 534 signatures; Clinton's camp had 704.

Prosecutors say that in President Obama's case, nine of the petition pages were apparently forged. Each petition contains up to 10 names, making a possible total of 90 names, which, if faked, could have brought the Obama total below the legal limit required to qualify. Prosecutors say 13 Clinton petitions were apparently forged, meaning up to 130 possibly fake signatures.  Even if 130 signatures had been challenged, it would have still left Mrs. Clinton with enough signatures to meet the 500 person threshold.

Levco said a total of “100 to 200” signatures had been forged on Obama’s and Clinton’s petitions.

An Indiana State Police investigator said in court papers that the agency examined the suspect Obama petitions and "selected names at random from each of the petition pages and contacted those people directly. We found at least one person (and often multiple people) from each page who confirmed that they had not signed" petitions "or given consent for their name and/or signature to appear."

Numerous voters told Fox News that they never signed the petitions.

"That's not my signature," Charity Rorie, a mother of four, told us when we showed her the Obama petition with her name and signature. She was stunned, saying that it "absolutely" was a fake.

Charity told Fox News that her husband's entry was also a forgery, and that they have never been contacted by investigators or any authorities looking into the scandal.

"It's scary, it's shocking. It definitely is illegal," she told us.

Robert Hunter, Jr. told Fox news that his name was faked, too.

"I did not sign for Barack Obama," he told us. As he examined the Obama petition in his hands, Hunter pointed out that "I always put 'Junior' after my name, every time...there's no 'Junior' there

Even a former Democratic Governor of Indiana, Joe Kernan, told Fox News that his name was forged.

“This is a bitter sweet moment for free and fair elections," observed Ryan Nees, the Indiana born Yale “University senior who first exposed the scheme in the independent political newsletter, Howey Politics Indiana and South Bend Tribune.

Nees said the multiple guilty verdicts were "bitter, because a five-person conspiracy succeeded in illegally placing two presidential candidates on the ballot, but sweet because they were exposed, tried for their crimes, and convicted."

Nees previously told Fox News that the fraud was clearly evident, "because page after page of signatures are all in the same handwriting," and that nobody raised any red flags "because election workers in charge of verifying their validity were the same people faking the signatures."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/04/26/officials-found-guilty-in-obama-clinton-ballot-petition-fraud/#ixzz2RahmYqHE


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Re: Officials found guilty in Obama, Clinton ballot petition fraud
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2013, 02:42:44 PM »
crickets

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Re: Officials found guilty in Obama, Clinton ballot petition fraud
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2013, 03:51:02 PM »
crickets
Fraud and deceit no longer matter in Obama's America.  Even in the face of overwhelming evidence.  Nobody cares.

Obama could do almost anything at this point and there wouldn't be the slightest of consequences.

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Re: Officials found guilty in Obama, Clinton ballot petition fraud
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2013, 04:10:17 PM »
if obama and hillary had to fake signatures just to get on their own party's primary ballot, lol

what am i missing?  something wrong with this picture lol

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Re: Officials found guilty in Obama, Clinton ballot petition fraud
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2013, 04:32:56 PM »
if obama and hillary had to fake signatures just to get on their own party's primary ballot, lol

what am i missing?  something wrong with this picture lol

A reply Coach?

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Re: Officials found guilty in Obama, Clinton ballot petition fraud
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2013, 05:56:11 PM »
A reply Coach?

Mmmm, did you read the article? No? didn't think so. You might want to read WHY, or is the left exempt from being questioned? That mother fuckers entire campaign was a proven fraud in the left's choice to have him run in the first place. When he leaves office, there should be an asterisk put next to his name.

And you, my little communist friend from ANOTHER COUNTRY, should stay out of US political discussions. You make yourself look like an ass....like Obama.

BTW, what country are you from?

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Re: Officials found guilty in Obama, Clinton ballot petition fraud
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2013, 06:02:14 PM »
Hey Joe, I know you hate math but see if you can get one of your students to help you with this

Obama won 365 electoral votes to McCains 173

Indiana had 11 electoral votes

How many electoral votes would Obama have if we threw out Indiana

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Re: Officials found guilty in Obama, Clinton ballot petition fraud
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2013, 06:08:59 PM »
Hey Joe, I know you hate math but see if you can get one of your students to help you with this

Obama won 365 electoral votes to McCains 173

Indiana had 11 electoral votes

How many electoral votes would Obama have if we threw out Indiana

The scumbag should not have even been on the ballot and how many other states was his operation engaged in criminal activity? 

Obama = culture of corruption and crime

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Re: Officials found guilty in Obama, Clinton ballot petition fraud
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2013, 06:41:45 PM »
The scumbag should not have even been on the ballot and how many other states was his operation engaged in criminal activity? 

Obama = culture of corruption and crime

are you trying to win a stupid contest with The Coach

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Re: Officials found guilty in Obama, Clinton ballot petition fraud
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2013, 06:43:14 PM »
are you trying to win a stupid contest with The Coach

No - what i poster is fact - obama is a criminal ghetto thug

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Re: Officials found guilty in Obama, Clinton ballot petition fraud
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2013, 06:47:23 PM »
No - what i poster is fact - obama is a criminal ghetto thug

nothing you just said is a fact

but then you've never appeared to actually know what the word fact means

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Re: Officials found guilty in Obama, Clinton ballot petition fraud
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2013, 06:51:45 PM »
Hey Joe, I know you hate math but see if you can get one of your students to help you with this

Obama won 365 electoral votes to McCains 173

Indiana had 11 electoral votes

How many electoral votes would Obama have if we threw out Indiana
it wasn't the general election. it was the primary.  Obama would have still been on indiana's ballot for the general election.

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Re: Officials found guilty in Obama, Clinton ballot petition fraud
« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2013, 06:55:22 PM »
nothing you just said is a fact

but then you've never appeared to actually know what the word fact means

You're saying that all of the precincts where Obama won by 99-100% were legit even though it was proven (and nothing was done) there was fraud and oh, voter intimidation?

Again, tell us why you voted for two times.

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« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2013, 06:56:54 PM »
it wasn't the general election. it was the primary.  Obama would have still been on indiana's ballot for the general election.

I know but I'm just trying to make a very simplistic point to Joe so that he can see that his claim that "Obama is not a legit sitting president" is totally without merit

then again, Joe still believes Obama spends 1.4 billion on a year on parties and vacations

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Re: Officials found guilty in Obama, Clinton ballot petition fraud
« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2013, 06:59:31 PM »
You're saying that all of the precincts where Obama won by 99-100% were legit even though it was proven (and nothing was done) there was fraud and oh, voter intimidation?

Again, tell us why you voted for two times.

if you're going to make new claims then provide some links as proof or I will just assume it's bullshit

"why I voted for two times" ?

Are you trying to ask me why I voted for Obama two times?


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Re: Officials found guilty in Obama, Clinton ballot petition fraud
« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2013, 07:04:51 PM »
if you're going to make new claims then provide some links as proof or I will just assume it's bullshit

"why I voted for two times" ?

Are you trying to ask me why I voted for Obama two times?



Geez, again. Look for it. I've probably posted it more than 20 times since 08' and more in the past fraudulent election. Tell us why you voted for him.

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Re: Officials found guilty in Obama, Clinton ballot petition fraud
« Reply #16 on: April 26, 2013, 07:09:07 PM »
Geez, again. Look for it. I've probably posted it more than 20 times since 08' and more in the past fraudulent election. Tell us why you voted for him.

you go look for it

I'm sure it's all total bullshit like your claim that Obama spent 1.4 billion on vacations and parties

you were given proof that is bullshit (as if your peanut sized brain couldn't have figured that out) and you still believe it

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Re: Officials found guilty in Obama, Clinton ballot petition fraud
« Reply #17 on: April 26, 2013, 07:11:48 PM »
you go look for it

I'm sure it's all total bullshit like your claim that Obama spent 1.4 billion on vacations and parties

you were given proof that is bullshit (as if your peanut sized brain couldn't have figured that out) and you still believe it

Here's one, but I'm sure you'll think bullshit.

http://www.westernjournalism.com/wikileaks-obama-team-stole-election-bribed-jesse-jackson-and-took-russian-money-in-2008/

Want more? It's old news dude.


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Re: Officials found guilty in Obama, Clinton ballot petition fraud
« Reply #19 on: April 26, 2013, 07:18:29 PM »
There were many factors that hurt Mitt Romney and favored Barack Obama in the 2012 presidential election. The Democrats portrayed Romney in the worst light possible; as a wealthy, out of touch millionaire who wanted to return women to the 1800's. The left wing media predictably did everything it could to perpetuate that false caricature. Obama's race was an advantage; voters of all persuasions, particularly minorities, still cannot get over the allure of the first black president. The 47% of Americans on welfare were predisposed to vote for the food stamp president over Romney, wanting the free goodies to keep on giving, despite the long-term unsustainability.

In spite of those odds, polls indicated that Romney was going to win the election. The economy is close to Great Depression era conditions, and unemployment is almost as high as when Obama entered office. Economic conditions became so dire after Obama took office it prompted the rise of an entire new movement, the Tea Party. Presidents rarely win reelection when the economy is in the tank.

So how did Romney lose a race that numerous reputable polls and pundits predicted would be an easy win, based on historical patterns? The most realistic explanation is voter fraud in a few swing states. According to the Columbus Dispatch, one out of every five registered voters in Ohio is ineligible to vote. In at least two counties in Ohio, the number of registered voters exceeded the number of eligible adults who are of voting age. In northwestern Ohio's Wood County, there are 109 registered voters for every 100 people eligible to vote. An additional 31 of Ohio's 88 counties have voter registration rates over 90%, which most voting experts regard as suspicious. Obama miraculously won 100% of the vote in 21 districts in Cleveland, and received over 99% of the vote where GOP inspectors were illegally removed.

The inflated numbers can't just reflect voters who have moved, because the average voting registration level nationwide is only 70%. The vast majority of voters over the 70% level are not voting because they want to, they are voting because someone is getting them to cast a vote, one way or another. Those 31 counties are most likely the largest counties in Ohio, representing a majority of Ohio voters. This means the number of votes cast above the 70% typical voter registration level easily tops 100,000, the margin Obama won Ohio by.

Videographer James O'Keefe, known for his undercover videos exposing left wing fraud, caught a Virginia Democratic Congressman's son on video in October explaining how to commit voter fraud. Patrick Moran, the son of Rep. Jim Moran, told O'Keefe's videographer that in order to make a vote for someone else, you'd need two pieces of identification, such as a utility bill, explaining, "they can fake a utility bill with ease, you know?" He went on to advise the videographer that he should also call the voter and pretend to be a polling company in order to make sure the voter isn't intending to vote. He said that Democrat attorneys would be located in the polling places to assist him if challenged casting one of these illegal votes.

In another video, O'Keefe's videographer tells a DNC staffer from Obama's Organizing for America that she intends to vote in both Texas and Florida. The staffer laughs and says, "It's cool." The staffer then prints out a voter registration form for the undercover videographer and advises her on what to do if she gets caught.

These are just the known instances of attempted voter fraud. How many instances occurred that were not discovered? Obama's Organizing for America looked up voters in swing states – many who would not have bothered voting otherwise – and got them to vote. How did they get them to vote? They may have given them rides to the polls, they may have offered to fill out and return their ballots for them, or they may have voted ballots for the ones who were not going to vote.

Many on the left believe there is nothing wrong with committing fraud in order to ensure Obama's reelection. It is a common tenet on the left that the ends justify the means. Saul Alinsky, the 1960's radical who inspired Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, taught community organizers like Obama that dishonesty is acceptable if it achieves your political goals. And when caught, Alinsky teaches radicals to deny the wrongdoing and change the topic to put their accusers on the defensive. One Obama supporter brazenly posted on Facebook that he was voting four times for Obama, asserting that the ends justify the means.

Aiding Obama's win was a devious suppression of the conservative vote. The conservative-leaning military vote has decreased drastically since 2010 due to the so-called Military Voter Protection Act that was enacted into law the year before. It has made it so difficult for overseas military personnel to obtain absentee ballots that in Virginia and Ohio there has been a 70% decrease in requests for ballots since 2008. In Virginia, almost 30,000 fewer overseas military voters requested ballots than in 2008. In Ohio, more than 20,000 fewer overseas military voters requested ballots. This is significant considering Obama won in both states by a little over 100,000 votes.

Voter fraud has been in the works for years. At least 52 employees of the left wing group ACORN have been convicted of voter registration fraud. ACORN itself was convicted of the crime of "compensation," paying its registration canvassers bonuses to exceed their quotas. In 2008, 36% of ACORN's voter registrations were invalidated. Left wing political pundit Chris Matthews admitted last year that pretending to call someone from a polling company, then voting their ballot for them, has been happening in big cities since the 1950's. He admitted he knows that kind of voter fraud takes place in Philadelphia.

Strong-arming people into voting who really have no desire to vote undermines our form of government. People do not choose to vote because they are uninformed about the issues and candidates, are lazy, cynical, or are content with the status quo. Voting someone else's ballot for them is cheating the system and essentially giving yourself two votes.

When people claim that Obama won because the economy was improving, or because Americans generally think he is doing a good job, it is not true. He won through dishonest methods and rhetoric. Many of the votes cast in the swing states were cajoled, some legally and perhaps even more illegally, into supporting him. If voter fraud becomes acceptable, then maybe Donald Trump is right: it's time for a revolution.

http://townhall.com/columnists/rachelalexander/2012/11/11/obama_likely_won_reelection_through_election_fraud/page/full/

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Re: Officials found guilty in Obama, Clinton ballot petition fraud
« Reply #20 on: April 26, 2013, 07:19:21 PM »
Problem with the left is, they wouldn't know honesty if it slapped them up side the head.

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Re: Officials found guilty in Obama, Clinton ballot petition fraud
« Reply #21 on: April 26, 2013, 07:22:07 PM »
Here's one, but I'm sure you'll think bullshit.

http://www.westernjournalism.com/wikileaks-obama-team-stole-election-bribed-jesse-jackson-and-took-russian-money-in-2008/

Want more? It's old news dude.

not only do I think it's bullshit - the source of the emails says they are bullshit and the emails contains claims and not proof

is it possible for you to understand that (I'm doubtful)

I have a feeling you will skip right over the lack of any proof part and just assume that are true

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/feb/27/wikileaks-stratfor-emails-anonymous?newsfeed=true
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"In December, thieves compromised Stratfor's data systems and stole a large number of company emails, along with other private information of Stratfor readers, subscribers and employees," the company said.

"This is a deplorable, unfortunate – and illegal – breach of privacy. Some of the emails may be forged or altered to include inaccuracies; some may be authentic. We will not validate either. Nor will we explain the thinking that went into them.

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Re: Officials found guilty in Obama, Clinton ballot petition fraud
« Reply #22 on: April 26, 2013, 07:23:24 PM »
Straw man w his typic ostrich appeoach to criminal behavior of the ghetto thug he voted for 2 x

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Re: Officials found guilty in Obama, Clinton ballot petition fraud
« Reply #23 on: April 26, 2013, 07:24:37 PM »
Straw man w his typic ostrich appeoach to criminal behavior of the ghetto thug he voted for 2 x

feel free to provide some actual proof

you do know what that is ...right?

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Re: Officials found guilty in Obama, Clinton ballot petition fraud
« Reply #24 on: April 26, 2013, 07:27:21 PM »
feel free to provide some actual proof

you do know what that is ...right?

LOL - i have a thread appeoacging 2000 posts w evidence of the criminal nature of that ghetto pimp slug obama