in dj's defense i judged him on and saw his new pics compared to some pix 6 wks before he improved a lot from that point to thses pics here,,,i think for him a bbing look we would see as the norm or what we judge on in terms of us regular getbigger's pics that have been posted here is not his goal.and a negative to his credit i wouldn't post pics while boasting 'zane'assumptions,,,but he likes talk a good game so i can't fault him for having self confidence.