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« on: April 29, 2013, 10:23:55 AM »

Abortion Doctor: I Would Leave Babies to Die Born Alive After Abortion
 Life News ^ | Steven Ertelt

Posted on Monday, April 29, 2013 1:22:01 PM by Morgana

In a second undercover video Live Action has released in two days, another abortion clinic staffer acknowledges leaving babies to die following failed abortions. The videos show there are other abortion clinics, abortion practitioners and staff who, like Kermit Gosnell, would leave babies to die after failed abortions.

First, the pro-life group released a video showing an abortion facility staff member saying an unborn child born alive after a botched abortion should just be flushed down the toilet. In this second video, leading D.C. late-term abortion doctor Cesare Santengelo admits he would leave a baby struggling for life after a failed abortion to die.

The video is the second in a series of undercover videos, found at www.liveaction.org/inhuman, involving a number of late-term abortion clinics engaging in illegal and inhuman practices, as well as explaining in graphic terms what happens to the victims of late-term abortion.

“Hopefully we’ll get this pregnancy out intact, but it doesn’t always happen that way,” Washington, D.C. abortion doctor Cesare Santangelo tells an undercover Live Action investigator who is 24 weeks pregnant. “I try and sever the umbilical cord first, and we wait for that to stop pulsing, and this way the fetus is expired first.”

When asked by the undercover investigator what would happen if the baby were to survive the abortion, Doctor Santangelo responds:

“Technically – you know, legally we would be obligated to help it, you know, to survive. But, you know, it probably wouldn’t. It’s all in how vigorously you do things to help a fetus survive at this point. Let’s say you went into labor, the membranes ruptured, and you delivered before we got to the termination part of the procedure here, you know? Then we would do things – we would – we would not help it. We wouldn’t intubate. It would be, you know, uh, a person, a terminal person in the hospital, let’s say, that had cancer, you know? You wouldn’t do any extra procedures to help that person survive. Like ‘do not resuscitate’ orders. We would do the same things here.”

Live Action President Lila Rose called the practices “illegal and inhuman” and charged that they are a violation federal law – namely, the Born-Alive Infants Protection Act.

Rose told LifeNews: “It is clear from our investigation that Kermit Gosnell is just the tip of the iceberg. Our videos expose the truly gruesome, illegal, and inhuman practices going on inside many of America’s abortion clinics. Our investigation reveals that these inhuman practices make for just another day at the office to the doctors, nurses, counselors, and staff who engage in this abuse on a regular basis.”

In the video of the Bronx, New York abortion “counselor,” the staff member described how a born-alive baby would be placed in a jar of toxic “solution” to ensure death.

The videos are part of Live Action’s six-month undercover investigation shedding light on the illegal, inhuman, and gruesome practices of numerous clinics throughout the country.

“These clinics should be shut down,” Rose said, “and the doctors and clinic staff engaging in these inhuman and illegal practices should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. It is time to stop infanticide in its tracks, and the only way to do that is to bring justice for these babies born alive but left to die.”

Rose is calling for Attorney General Eric Holder and the U.S. Attorney’s office to investigate and prosecute Dr. Santangelo, who is in violation of federal law. Rose also called on local health and law enforcement officials to similarly investigate Dr. Santangelo and put an end to his illegal and inhuman practices.

From the letter Live Action wrote to Attorney General Holder: “I do not exaggerate when I write that lives are at stake. Babies born alive from failed abortions have the same natural right to life, confirmed by the Declaration of Independence and protected by the United States Constitution, as any other human person. They must not be left to die, yet as Dr. Santangelo is caught on tape saying, “we will not help” them.”
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« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2013, 11:21:55 AM »

The Media and liberals are more concerned with the rights of fags and gun control then they are about innocent babies. Fucked up priorities.
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« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2013, 12:05:08 PM »

God bless Planned Parenthood.   Roll Eyes
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« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2013, 12:10:39 PM »

Trees are more important than children.

Let's save trees, but at the same time let's abort 50 million babies and flush down the toilet those that survive the procedure.

Give a big shout out to the civilized society of the United States.
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« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2013, 12:22:06 PM »

Trees are more important than children.

Let's save trees, but at the same time let's abort 50 million babies and flush down the toilet those that survive the procedure.

Give a big shout out to the civilized society of the United States.
Yes, and let's save 20 people from mass shooters by banning guns. But go ahead and kill over 1 million babies a year. Fucked up rationale.
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« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2013, 12:31:08 PM »

When abortion was legalized and even prior to Roe vs Wade, opponents warned that in time its application would extend beyond rape or health of the mother.

The liberals, who believe themselves to be intellectuals, scoffed at the idea.

Here we are now, over 50 million babies aborted since 1973 and most of them aborted because the child is an inconvenience. Now, we have "doctors" at abortion clinics breaking the law by intentionally killing children that survive outside the womb of the mother.

Liberalism is worse than cancer.
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« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2013, 12:33:07 PM »

Straight talk.

Obama Addresses Planned Parenthood Without Saying “Abortion”
by Keith Koffler on April 26, 2013

I turned on The Five on Fox News this afternoon for a few minutes and noticed that they were talking about President Obama’s appearance this morning at Planned Parenthood and that they were discussing euphemisms people use for abortion.

So I took a look at Obama’s remarks and realized he hadn’t once used the word “abortion” while speaking at a meeting of the nation’s premiere abortion mill.

Here’s what he called abortion instead:

decisions best made between a woman and her doctor

a woman’s constitutional right to privacy

a woman’s right to choose

woman’s health

a woman’s right to make her own choices about her own health

Now, this begs the question, if abortion really isn’t something so terrible, if it’s benign enough to be considered little more than a medical procedure, THEN WHY NOT USE THE WORD??

Instead, Obama avoided it like the plague and went on and on about all the other wonderful services Planned Parenthood provides.

Let’s be real here. Planned Parenthood should obviously have been named Avoiding Parenthood.

“Planned Parenthood” in 2008-2009 earned about 40 percent of its income from providing abortions. In 2009, in performed 332,278 abortions, about one in every four abortions in the United States.

Planned Parenthood is an abortion factory. If you support that, fine, it’s your right. But just, say it.

http://www.whitehousedossier.com/2013/04/26/obama-addresses-planned-parenthood-abortion/
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« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2013, 12:45:51 PM »

what's the point of having "abortion control" laws when people will just have abortions anyway

isn't the the argument against any kind of gun legislation
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« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2013, 01:05:43 PM »

what's the point of having "abortion control" laws when people will just have abortions anyway

isn't the the argument against any kind of gun legislation

See folks.

This is example#1 of liberal idiocy.


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« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2013, 01:21:18 PM »

See folks.

This is example#1 of liberal idiocy.

and this is an example of a fucking moron who doesn't understand sarcasm (even though I made it about as obvious as possible)
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« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2013, 03:33:53 PM »

and this is an example of a fucking moron who doesn't understand sarcasm (even though I made it about as obvious as possible)

easy on him, he's one of those who believes the world is 6000 years old  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2013, 03:38:30 PM »

and this is an example of a fucking moron who doesn't understand sarcasm (even though I made it about as obvious as possible)

Yeah for a man who claims to read the good book like Dario does its weird he doesnt know sarcasm. Seriously the bible is full of it.
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« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2013, 03:54:08 PM »

this is flat out murder on shit like this.
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« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2013, 04:03:31 PM »

this is flat out murder on shit like this.

Better to kill them now than have them turn into freeloaders.
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« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2013, 04:11:13 PM »

Better to kill them now than have them turn into freeloaders.
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« Reply #15 on: April 29, 2013, 07:03:40 PM »

Better to kill them now than have them turn into freeloaders.
why do you even have an opinion about a subject in a another country that doesnt effect you?

is your life that dull?
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« Reply #16 on: April 29, 2013, 07:06:33 PM »

Better to kill them now than have them turn into freeloaders.

Hitler felt the same way 
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« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2013, 08:56:44 PM »

This is what I don't get... Whether a doctor is pro life/pro choice/liberal/conservative, whatever...

I don't understand why a doctor would have any desire to get involved in abortions?

They go to medical school, work hard, etc....  Why even mess with something like abortions, regardless?

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« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2013, 09:16:04 PM »

This is what I don't get... Whether a doctor is pro life/pro choice/liberal/conservative, whatever...

I don't understand why a doctor would have any desire to get involved in abortions?

They go to medical school, work hard, etc....  Why even mess with something like abortions, regardless?

Huh

There are real legit reasons for abortions.  I spent time in a room watching a child be born that everyone knew would die when born.  The mother and family had to go through that because nobody wanted to have anything to do with a late term abortion.  I forget what they call the condition but they didn't discover it until late that the baby hardly had any brain due to fluid build up in the skull.  I saw the scan of the baby and the brain was just a sliver on the side, hardly anything there.  She tried to get an abortion around 9 months but had to go ahead with the extra pain of carrying a kid she knew would die on birth.

And I feel bad for both victims, but I understand if a mother doesn't want to give birth to a child through rape or incest.

I'm sure there are other issues.
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« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2013, 09:48:18 PM »

There are real legit reasons for abortions.  I spent time in a room watching a child be born that everyone knew would die when born.  The mother and family had to go through that because nobody wanted to have anything to do with a late term abortion.  I forget what they call the condition but they didn't discover it until late that the baby hardly had any brain due to fluid build up in the skull.  I saw the scan of the baby and the brain was just a sliver on the side, hardly anything there.  She tried to get an abortion around 9 months but had to go ahead with the extra pain of carrying a kid she knew would die on birth.

And I feel bad for both victims, but I understand if a mother doesn't want to give birth to a child through rape or incest.

I'm sure there are other issues.

Oh yeah, I see what you're saying.  Undecided

Maybe I'm immature, but it just seems like with so many area of medicine one could pursue, abortion would be like a distant, distant, distant choice.
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« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2013, 09:59:15 PM »

Oh yeah, I see what you're saying.  Undecided

Maybe I'm immature, but it just seems like with so many area of medicine one could pursue, abortion would be like a distant, distant, distant choice.
immature?  I doubt that 100%  And I totally agree, I would think "abortion doctor" shouldn't be a career choice.  At the same time I think the procedure should be taught and available in hospitals for when the crazy shit happens like I'm talking about.  It's sad that a mother would have to go through extra pain for nothing over politics.
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« Reply #21 on: May 03, 2013, 09:19:52 AM »

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/05/02/Michigan-Abortionist-Was-Still-Licensed-After-Leaving-Baby-s-Head-Inside-Mother


WTF!!!! 

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« Reply #22 on: May 03, 2013, 09:44:33 AM »

When abortion was legalized and even prior to Roe vs Wade, opponents warned that in time its application would extend beyond rape or health of the mother.

The liberals, who believe themselves to be intellectuals, scoffed at the idea.

Here we are now, over 50 million babies aborted since 1973 and most of them aborted because the child is an inconvenience. Now, we have "doctors" at abortion clinics breaking the law by intentionally killing children that survive outside the womb of the mother.

Liberalism is worse than cancer.

what liberals nowadays fail to understand is that the 1970's liberals who fought for Roe v Wade would be absolutely disgusted at what the current liberal movement has turned abortion into. they have made them all into liars and have proven that the conservatives with whom they were fighting against were right all along. 
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