The lefts total lack of morality is disscusting.....

[phreak]

Quality post. I agree 100% with this here. Kids are curious, they're gonna fuck no matter what you tell em. Best let em be smart about it.

Your mother was a good person, I must say.

Probably the first "yo mama!" on GB that ends well.

[syntaxmachine]

cool, make it money.... $2000 CASH at age 12 to take a 10 year birth control shot.   I bet the parents in poor areas will line up to put their kids on that shot at age 12.  no doubt.

Even if you take college out of it... Do the math on cost of 18 years of welfare + medical VS a one-time $2000 stimulus package to a group that will spend every cent of it.

I think it'd be successful... in one generation, the number of pregnancies would plummet, having a cumulative effect on the next generation.   WOuldn't cost that much for long as a new generation of poor, dependent people aren't born.

The only problem I foresee is that we may be incentivizing poor people to have more kids by giving them a CCT benefit for each child they have ($2k x number of kids). So the program would need to be structured to avoid that incentive. Fuck, things just got complicated!

[King Shizzo]

The only problem I foresee is that we may be incentivizing poor people to have more kids by giving them a CCT benefit for each child they have ($2k x number of kids). So the program would need to be structured to avoid that incentive. Fuck, things just got complicated!

That is already happening with the dependant tax breaks. Whores are cashing in at tax time.

[dr.chimps]

DISGUSTING. How is disscusting even possible!? That is just plain sad.   

[Coach is Back!]

So children need to be brainwashed in thinking that a normal biological function is somehow evil. Let me guess: they go to hell if they have sex? That always seems to foster normal, well-adjusted people.

Not at all. They need to be taught what the responsibilities of they're actions may bring.

[Archer77]

We've been battling about this topic in the pol section.  I don't understand why they didn't make the age requirement the age of consent.  Seems ridiculous for it to be available to anyone under that age of consent, considering the possibility that a crime occurred. 

There are a lot of problems in allowing someone under the age of consent to purchase. If a fifteen year old buys the map should the authorities be informed?  Doctors and teachers are required to report possible signs of abuse as a matter of the child's safety.

[phreak]

Not at all. They need to be taught what the responsibilities of they're actions may bring.

So you want to teach them that sex is fine, as long as they use protection? I can agree with that: very responsible.

[deceiver]

Disagree, but you're right, you just can't "tell" them, it has to be instilled in them at a young are. When I hear parents say "well, they're going to do it anyway, might as well at least give them protection"...that falls on the parents.

If you have a daughter, get her on the pills if she wants to have sex with her boyfriend. If your kid trusts you he/she will tell. I did. Most of my friends did. I had best sexual education in the world because my dad is a fucking professional and I knew everything about protection, its pros and cons long before I had sex.

If you have a son it's even simplier. Make sure he tells you about his personal life as much as it's comfortable for him to say and he will know that he has to get his GF on the pills or use condoms.

It's really fucking simple. The sooner your kid starts his sexual life, the better. More practice, less frustration, more satisfaction from life. It's XXI century, you don't have to live like a monk.

Day after pills are dangerous and should be last resort. Abortion is BS. If it's gonna kill mother od child is sick and gonna live a miserable life then go for it. Other than that you have to pay the price. Why? I don't have any rational arguments. It just sickens me to the stomach.

[Coach is Back!]

DISGUSTING. How is disscusting even possible!? That is just plain sad.   

Gimme a break, out of the hundreds of thousands of words I write on here, you bag on an auto-correct mistake from my phone? Example of the left blowing things out of proportion

[dr.chimps]

Gimme a break, out of the hundreds of thousands of words I write on here, you bag on an auto-correct mistake from my phone? Example of the left blowing things out of proportion

Disscusting isn't even a word, so your phone could/would never 'auto-correct' for it, Coach. Talk about the right lying out of their asses (again).   

[King Shizzo]

Disscusting isn't even a word, so your phone could/would never 'auto-correct' for it, Coach. Talk about the right lying out of their asses (again).   

The good Dr. Owning Coach here 

[Coach is Back!]

If you have a daughter, get her on the pills if she wants to have sex with her boyfriend. If your kid trusts you he/she will tell. I did. Most of my friends did. I had best sexual education in the world because my dad is a fucking professional and I knew everything about protection, its pros and cons long before I had sex.

If you have a son it's even simplier. Make sure he tells you about his personal life as much as it's comfortable for him to say and he will know that he has to get his GF on the pills or use condoms.

It's really fucking simple. The sooner your kid starts his sexual life, the better. More practice, less frustration, more satisfaction from life. It's XXI century, you don't have to live like a monk.

Day after pills are dangerous and should be last resort. Abortion is BS. If it's gonna kill mother od child is sick and gonna live a miserable life then go for it. Other than that you have to pay the price. Why? I don't have any rational arguments. It just sickens me to the stomach.

My son is 15 and ever since he has been able to understand, the one thing me and his mother (step) have instilled that best way to stay out of trouble is to teach abstinence. Except for this year, he has always gone to a Christian school where abstinence is taught. Does this insure it won't happen? Of course not, but odds are it will not. Now that he's in a public school with 3000 students as opposed to 660, the odds of temptation are greater, of course. But as long as it was INSTILLED at a younger age, he knows what the life consequences are if he does get a girl pregnant and he also knows and agrees that abortion is NOT an option.

Unfortunately, most public schools do not teach this but rather teach the alternative which is to protect yourself. If you're going to teach one you should teach the other. Period. IMO, this is giving up on the kid by thinking that the biological outcome is inevitable and sex is automatically going to happen no matter what, nothing could be further from the truth despite what some of the psychological studies suggest.  

No one asking a kid to live like a monk, all we're asking them to be responsible and keep in their pants. Most of the kids I know, including my son, are bogged down with too much other bullshit anyway. Example, my kids schedule goes like this, School, out of school by 1:30, 1:40-5:00 is baseball practice and games twice during the week, 6-8:00pm is training and rehab, 8:30-10:30 homework. Weekends, training, hitting, catching practice, time with friends, Sundays, hang out with friends.

[dr.chimps]

My son is 15 and ever since he has been able to understand, the one thing me and his mother (step) have instilled that best way to stay out of trouble is to teach abstinence. Except for this year, he has always gone to a Christian school where abstinence is taught. Does this insure it won't happen? Of course not, but odds are it will not. Now that he's in a public school with 3000 students as opposed to 660, the odds of temptation are greater, of course. But as long as it was INSTILLED at a younger age, he knows what the life consequences are if he does get a girl pregnant and he also knows and agrees that abortion is NOT an option.

Unfortunately, most public schools do not teach this but rather teach the alternative which is to protect yourself. If you're going to teach one you should teach the other. Period. IMO, this is giving up on the kid by thinking that the biological outcome is inevitable and sex is automatically going to happen no matter what, nothing could be further from the truth despite what some of the psychological studies suggest.  

No one asking a kid to live like a monk, all we're asking them to be responsible and keep in their pants. Most of the kids I know, including my son, are bogged down with too much other bullshit anyway. Example, my kids schedule goes like this, School, out of school by 1:30, 1:40-5:00 is baseball practice and games twice during the week, 6-8:00pm is training and rehab, 8:30-10:30 homework. Weekends, training, hitting, catching practice, time with friends, Sundays, hang out with friends.

Abstinence programs are idiocy. Bristol Palin proved that. But good on you, Coach, for instilling the education and responsibility. 

[Coach is Back!]

Disscusting isn't even a word, so your phone could/would never 'auto-correct' for it, Coach. Talk about the right lying out of their asses (again).   

Bah!

[XFACTOR]

My son is 15 and ever since he has been able to understand, the one thing me and his mother (step) have instilled that best way to stay out of trouble is to teach abstinence. Except for this year, he has always gone to a Christian school where abstinence is taught. Does this insure it won't happen? Of course not, but odds are it will not. Now that he's in a public school with 3000 students as opposed to 660, the odds of temptation are greater, of course. But as long as it was INSTILLED at a younger age, he knows what the life consequences are if he does get a girl pregnant and he also knows and agrees that abortion is NOT an option.

Unfortunately, most public schools do not teach this but rather teach the alternative which is to protect yourself. If you're going to teach one you should teach the other. Period. IMO, this is giving up on the kid by thinking that the biological outcome is inevitable and sex is automatically going to happen no matter what, nothing could be further from the truth despite what some of the psychological studies suggest.  

No one asking a kid to live like a monk, all we're asking them to be responsible and keep in their pants. Most of the kids I know, including my son, are bogged down with too much other bullshit anyway. Example, my kids schedule goes like this, School, out of school by 1:30, 1:40-5:00 is baseball practice and games twice during the week, 6-8:00pm is training and rehab, 8:30-10:30 homework. Weekends, training, hitting, catching practice, time with friends, Sundays, hang out with friends.

Looks like Sunday might be a good day for him to bang a few chicks.

[freespirit]

Total lack of morality....

[dr.chimps]

Bah!

Don't worry, Coach. We'll bury your apology on the sixth page. 

/liberal media

[Jack T. Cross]

Haha..it was probably Coach trying to correct the phone.

[Van_Bilderass]

Fantastic article here. It's not just the left that wants to kill somebody. Everybody wants to kill
somebody!

What would Jesus say?

The Pro-Death Movement

by Jim Goad

I once read that all societies throughout history were consistent in that they deemed it wrong to kill another human being…but they were wildly inconsistent in how they defined the term “human being.”

Such universal contradictions are compounded by the monotheism under which much of the world’s minds have been yoked for millennia, a strange philosophy that posits a God who says “Thou shalt not kill” yet who kills every creature he creates.

We currently have a culturally dominant and largely atheistic left, who never shut the fuck up about how many people have been killed by religion, Nazis, racists, and guns. Yet they’ll try to shout you into silence if you mention how many people that atheistic communistic egalitarians have killed.

And they don’t dare mention how many people that abortionists have killed, because to them, “personhood” begins at birth rather than conception.

They never tire of trotting out 70-year-old Holocaust pics and century-old lynching pics. Yet through semantic sleight-of-brain, they’ll insist that modern abortion pics are “sensationalistic.”

And I’ve marveled for years at how they openly gloat at the death—either through demographic erosion or straight-up murder—of those with whom they disagree. Apparently Woody Guthrie felt no twinge of conscience about scrawling THIS MACHINE KILLS FASCISTS on his guitar, because to him, fascists were somehow less than human.

That’s because fascists killed people. Therefore, it’s OK to kill fascists.

Are you following that logic? If so, that makes one of us.

Rare is the individual who doesn’t condone, either actively or by inaction, the killing of others. In one way or another, almost everyone on Earth belongs to the Pro-Death Movement. Those who don’t are either masochistic or naïve. Even the misguided policies of super-pacifists will lead to overpopulation and an inevitable natural mass culling of the Earth Herd.

The same media progbots who pooped their diapers at the murder of children in Sandy Hook last November are pooh-poohing the idea that one would dare draw parallels to the case of abortionist Dr. Kermit Gosnell, currently on trial for murder as the result of alleged misdeeds performed at his grisly West Philadelphia “House of Horrors.”

The grand jury report on Gosnell’s Women’s Medical Center is some of the most gruesome “gore porn” you’ll ever read. Approach with caution. I’ll summarize it in the next paragraph, which you can skip if you have a weak stomach.

Over nearly 300 pages, the report tells of a fetid, malodorous, blood-and-feces splattered clinic stocked with rusted, stained, and broken equipment. Of fetal remains stuffed everywhere—in refrigerators, milk jugs, cat-food boxes, and even a bizarre collection of several fetal feet displayed in jars. Of medical-waste-filled boxes leaking blood onto the floor. Of unwashed and contaminated medical instruments spreading disease. Of third-term live births cut short after Gosnell or associates would “snip” them at the neck to “ensure fetal demise.” Of one baby delivered into a toilet and thrashing around so that it appeared to be “swimming,” whereupon it was lifted from the commode and had its neck slit. Of one baby whose weight was estimated at six pounds, whereupon Gosnell reportedly “joked” that it was big enough to “walk me to the bus stop.” Of him also joking as one baby writhed while he slit its neck, “that’s what you call a chicken with its head cut off.”

Dr. Gosnell is a black abortionist. Some have suggested that at first the media gave scant notice to his trial because it involved the tarnishing of two progressive sacred cows—abortion and black people. In a perverse sense, he’s very lucky he wasn’t a white doctor shooting black babies with a gun.

For one side of this tedious team sport, guns are only meant to kill. To the other side, abortion is only meant to kill.

I have news for both sides. Guns and abortions are both only meant to kill. That’s a statement of fact, not a value judgment. I may be the odd bird in the flock here in that I admit I don’t necessarily think killing other humans is always bad. Where I’m the Uber-weirdo is that I see them as all human, despite their morphological or ideological differences from me. If someone were trying to kill me, I’d do my best to squash him or her like a roach without blinking. And since I feel the world already has far too many people, I don’t see anything wrong with aborting many (if not most) fetuses before they plop all wet and slimy into the world and further degrade the ecosystem.

Not all abortionists behave like Kermit Gosnell. Then again, not all gun owners behave like Adam Lanza. And not all racists behave like Adolf Hitler. And not all egalitarians behave like Mao. Yet the infantile modern-day left/right herd mentality is ever eager to jump in a toboggan and careen down the slippery slope.

But as is the case with all binary political discourse these days, one side seized the details to attack, while the other side avoided the details and tried to deflect the sunlight. Some blamed abortion itself; others blamed a culture of poverty that sent poor women to clinics such as these. Very few mentioned that condoms or morning-after pills could have averted the whole bloody Grand Guignol banquet.

Perched as I am on another planet, I try to take the middle road. On one hand, this case doesn’t say much about an unregulated free market, because Gosnell was making loads of cash—one estimate had it at $15K a day—not only on third-trimester abortions, but on peddling pain medication. On the other, it doesn’t say much for government regulation because state officials ignored nearly two decades’ worth of complaints about the clinic. If government workers can’t be trusted to regulate a private clinic, who but a fool would trust them to clean their own house?

Far be it from me to eagerly stomp on everyone’s toes, but the private and public sectors are both filled with human beings. Therein lies the problem. With rare exceptions, humans can’t be trusted.

Despite the universal human urge to paint everything in moralistic terms, it seems obvious to me that nature is amoral. Just as all societies condemn murder unless they’re murdering people they don’t deem to be human, there’s an almost universal human definition of good and evil:

    If it enhances my survival, it’s good. If it harms it, it’s evil.

It’s the application of that definition that becomes insanely subjective. I can’t think of a war in history where the combatants didn’t think they were on the “good” side fighting the “evil” side. What are the odds?

And that’s why political discourse, at least these days, consists of little more than apes flinging feces at one another. It’s a social-status game to prove the other side is morally “evil” rather than factually wrong.

The feminists fatales who run their necks about their “bodies” and their “rights” consistently ignore the presumed rights of the little bodies growing inside them, as well as the rights of the sperm donors without whom those little bodies never could have been created. “Rights,” as well as who gets to define what’s right and wrong, are zero-sum games and always have been.

Same goes for who gets to define what constitutes murder.

[Coach is Back!]

Looks like Sunday might be a good day for him to bang a few chicks.

And thats where my trust comes in.

[dr.chimps]

And thats where my trust comes in.

Pretty sure X is good, and on his first marriage.   

[Jack T. Cross]

Fantastic article here. It's not just the left that wants to kill somebody. Everybody wants to kill
somebody!

What would Jesus say?

Prevailing media has successfully placed many people into such a mindset, no doubt about it.

I think of those who scream about the youngsters killed in Connecticut, yet give Obama a pass on killing the kid by drone, as a great example.  And sure as hell it works both ways...that's exactly how it works, in fact.  Take two forces, each that are capable of leading to fascism, place them into complete opposition, and they will ratchet themselves toward their shared conclusion.  Talk about a fucking dupe.

[dr.chimps]

Haha! Chimps riding Coach with alagrity and custo!

Nice. But I say 'pronto-pronto' like the grammas in the de Sica movies.  

/nice misspellings

[Coach is Back!]

Nice. But I say 'pronto-pronto' like the grammas in the de Sica movies.  

/nice misspellings

 

[Griffith]

Prevailing media has successfully placed many people into such a mindset, no doubt about it.

I think of those who scream about the youngsters killed in Connecticut, yet give Obama a pass on killing the kid by drone, as a great example.  And sure as hell it works both ways...that's exactly how it works, in fact.  Take two forces, each that are capable of leading to fascism, place them into complete opposition, and they will ratchet themselves toward their shared conclusion.  Talk about a fucking dupe.

The term 'Fascism' is used incorrectly today, for instance a Stalinist state would argue they are not 'Fascist' but rather totalitarian, where the state controls everything.