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« on: May 01, 2013, 12:51:04 PM »

Italy race problems seen with black gov't minister
 
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May 1, 12:42 PM (ET)

By NICOLE WINFIELD
 
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ROME (AP) - It was hailed as a giant step forward for racial integration in a country that has long been ill at ease with its growing immigrant classes. But Cecile Kyenge's appointment as Italy's first black Cabinet minister has instead exposed the nation's ugly race problem, a blight that flares regularly on the soccer pitch with racist taunts and in the diatribes of xenophobic politicians - but has now raised its head at the center of political life.

One politician from a party that not long ago ruled in a coalition derided what he called Italy's new "bonga bonga government." On Wednesday, amid increasing revulsion over the reaction, the government authorized an investigation into neo-fascist websites whose members called Kyenge "Congolese monkey" and other epithets.

Kyenge, 48, was born in Congo and moved to Italy three decades ago to study medicine. An eye surgeon, she lives in Modena with her Italian husband and two children. She was active in local center-left politics before winning a seat in the lower Chamber of Deputies in February elections.

Premier Enrico Letta tapped Kyenge to be minister of integration in his hybrid center-left and center-right government that won its second vote of confidence Tuesday. In his introductory speech to Parliament, Letta touted Kyenge's appointment as a "new concept about the confines of barriers giving way to hope, of unsurpassable limits giving way to a bridge between diverse communities."

His praise and that of others has been almost drowned out by the racist slurs directed at Kyenge by politicians of the anti-immigrant Northern League party, an on-again, off-again ally of long-serving ex-premier Silvio Berlusconi, and members of neo-fascist Internet groups.

In addition to his "bonga bonga" slur, Mario Borghezio, a European parliamentarian for the League, warned in an interview with Radio 24 that Kyenge would try to "impose tribal traditions" from her native Congo on Italy.

Kyenge on Tuesday responded to the insults, thanking those who had come to her defense and taking a veiled jab at the vulgarity of her critics. "I believe even criticism can inform if it's done with respect," she tweeted.

Unlike France, Germany or Britain, where second and third generations of immigrants have settled albeit uneasily, Italy is a relative newcomer to the phenomenon. France has several high-ranking government ministers with immigrant roots, and few French had a problem with the appointments: Former President Nicolas Sarkozy named a justice minister and urban policy minister, both born in France to North African parents, to his cabinet, while his minister for human rights was born in Senegal. Francois Hollande's government spokeswoman was born in Morocco and raised in France, and his interior minister was born in Spain. He also has two black ministers from French overseas territories - one from Guyana and one from Guadeloupe.

Italy is another story. Once a country of emigration to North and South America at the turn of the last century, Italy saw the first waves of migrants from Eastern Europe and Africa coming to its shores only in the 1980s. In the last decade or two, their numbers have increased exponentially, and with them anti-immigrant sentiment: Surveys show Italians blame immigrants for crime and overtaxing the already burdened public health system. Foreigners made up about 2 percent of Italy's population in 1990; currently the figure stands at 7.5 percent, according to official statistics bureau Istat.

Some of the most blatant manifestations of racism occur in the realm of Italy's favorite sport, soccer - which for Italians and others has shown itself to be a perfect venue for displays of pent-up emotions. In the case of a handful of Italian teams, soccer is a way for right-wing fan clubs to vent.

Mario Balotelli, the AC Milan striker born in Palermo to Ghanaian immigrants and raised by an Italian adoptive family, knows all about it. Perhaps Italy's best player today, he has long been the subject of racist taunts on and off the field: Rival fans once hung a banner during a match saying "Black Italians don't exist" while the vice-president of his own club once called him the household's "little black boy."

Balotelli called Kyenge's nomination "another great step forward for an Italian society that is more civil, responsible and understanding of the need for better, definitive integration."

The race situation is almost schizophrenic in Italy. In the same week Kyenge was made a government minister and Balotelli was named one of Time magazine's 100 most influential people in the world, AC Milan's rival Juventus was fined 30,000 euro for fans' racist taunts during a game against Milan in which Balotelli wasn't even playing.

"There was no racism 40 years ago because there were no non-white Italians," said James Walston, a political science professor at American University of Rome. "You need the other in order to hate the other."

"It will take a long time - probably there will never be a completely racism-free society - but it will take a long time for Italy to reach the sort of acceptance, multi-cultural acceptance that the rest of Europe has and North America has," he said in an interview.

Kyenge got off to a rocky start with the Northern League when, on the day she was named minister, she said one of her top priorities would be to make it easier for children of immigrants born in Italy to obtain Italian citizenship. Currently, such children can only apply once they turn 18.

The issue has vexed Italy for years and previous center-left governments have failed to change the law even though most Italians - 72 percent according to a 2012 Istat-aided study - favor it. It's not just a matter of a passport but has real impact on the ability of an immigrant family to integrate into Italian society: Children of non-EU immigrants born in Italy, for example, can't take advantage of the EU citizen discounts at the Colosseum and other cultural treasures, having to pay full admission prices to get in to learn the heritage of the nation where they were born. If they were Italian citizens, they'd get in free until they were 18.

But raising an issue that so riles the Northern League - during an already tense political transition - was enough to set off Roberto Maroni, the interior minister in Berlusconi's last center-right government and a top League official. Maroni immediately demanded that his successor as interior minister make clear his position on the law.

Other members of Maroni's party were more blunt: Italian newspapers quoted the head of the League in Italy's northern Lombardy region Matteo Salvini as saying that Kyenge was a "symbol of a hypocritical and do-gooding left that wants to cancel out the crime of illegal immigration and thinks only about immigrants' rights and not their duties."

La Repubblica newspaper on Tuesday, meanwhile, cited the vile insults directed at her on fascist Internet groups such as . Repubblica said the antagonism was born from the League's basic opposition to a minister who tends to favor immigrant rights. "But the racist origins had to explode. And here they are. True, they're consigned to the stupid transience of the Web, but they're a sign of the widespread climate of hatred" in the country, the paper wrote.www.ilduce.net

Coming to Kyenge's defense was Laura Boldrini, the president of parliament's lower chamber, who for years was the chief spokeswoman in Italy for the U.N. refugee agency. In that role she frequently defended the rights of immigrants - and squared off with Northern League leaders after they pushed through a controversial 2009 policy to send back would-be Libyan migrants without screening them first for asylum.

"It is indecent that in a civil society there can be a series of insults - on websites but not only there - that are being hurled against the neo-minister Cecile Kyenge," Boldrini said. "Like many people, watching her take her oath of office I felt that Italy was taking an important step forward, and not just for 'new Italians.'"

Also defending Kyenge was the other foreign-born minister in Letta's government, Josefa Idem, a German-born Italian who won five Olympic kayaking medals before retiring after the London Games. Idem is Italy's new equal opportunities minister - one of seven women in Letta's government - and in that role authorized an investigation by Italy's national anti-discrimination office into the racist online slurs directed against Kyenge.

Italian news reports quoted Idem as saying she was doing so in her capacity as minister "but also as a woman."

Sociologist Michele Sorice at Rome's Luiss University said Italians have long harbored racist attitudes, stemming from the nation's colonial past in north Africa, but that they stayed hidden until the Northern League "legitimized" xenophobic political rhetoric after entering the government in the 1990s. The League denies it's xenophobic and says it is merely protecting the interests of Italians.

Italy has since become more sensitized to the issue, Sorice said, but it still lags behind its European and North American partners. Changing the law on citizenship, as Kyenge wants, "wouldn't do anything more than to bring Italy into line with the great European traditions," he said.

But he was doubtful that this particular government, made up of longtime political rivals, could pull it off when even previous center-left governments had failed to do so.

"It remains to be seen how this can be done on a practical level with a coalition government," he said.

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Tricia Thomas in Rome and Lori Hinnant in Paris contributed.

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« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2013, 03:05:41 PM »

Diversity for the sake of appearing diverse.   Roll Eyes

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« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2013, 08:46:03 PM »

No eggplant jokes?!

What's the matter with you people? Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2013, 09:11:04 PM »

Italians were fucked brown by North African Arabs. Their pedo of a fucking pope paid tribute to Muslims for over 100yrs.

They should STFU.
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« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2013, 11:08:16 AM »

What the fuck -- I thought Europe was a bastion of enlightened liberalism that puts the US and its defunct ways to shame?
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« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2013, 04:04:17 PM »

No eggplant jokes?!

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« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2013, 04:08:16 PM »

This is nothing new. You should have seen the outrage when a Black woman won Miss Italy.  Grin

They immediately started passing laws about who could enter the contest and who could not. lol
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« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2013, 04:25:06 PM »

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« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2013, 10:02:45 PM »

This is nothing new. You should have seen the outrage when a Black woman won Miss Italy.  Grin

They immediately started passing laws about who could enter the contest and who could not. lol
They are all mostly part eggplant anyway. They are probably cursing their ancestors everyday for polluting their genes with the non whites.
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« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2013, 07:07:01 AM »

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« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2013, 08:15:59 AM »

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/27/bananas-thrown-at-black-i_n_3662860.html


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No eggplant jokes?!

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« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2013, 09:20:16 AM »

It's their country they don't have to like anybody else.
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« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2013, 10:20:27 AM »

so is this black dude nailing hot white italian ass Huh

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« Reply #14 on: July 27, 2013, 12:11:28 PM »


The war on Whites....

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Viva Italia! These people instinctively know the dangers of black immigration and the crime and sloth that comes out of Africa. It is strange that other races have their ‘pride’ and their ‘strongholds’ yet when whites want to preserve ours we are called racist. This woman is a racist and also wants to fill Italy with Africans which means the death of the country. Get rid of her, Italia.
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« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2013, 12:26:26 PM »

so is this black dude nailing hot white italian ass Huh


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« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2013, 05:46:56 PM »

What the fuck -- I thought Europe was a bastion of enlightened liberalism that puts the US and its defunct ways to shame?

Uh... that would be Canada, ...the english speaking part.  Wink
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Uh... that would be Canada, ...the english speaking part.  Wink

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« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2013, 06:03:55 PM »

I don't understand...how come more Italians aren't going into The Congo?  Huh
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« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2013, 06:07:03 PM »

I don't understand...how come more Italians aren't going into The Congo?  Huh

Cause most of them are lazy zips who don't like the idea of hunting for dinner and going to bed w something out of National Geographic
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« Reply #20 on: July 28, 2013, 07:51:22 PM »

http://midnightwatcher.wordpress.com/2013/07/28/italy-muslim-immigrants-break-into-christian-church-steal-offerings-defecate-on-altar

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« Reply #21 on: July 29, 2013, 10:15:33 AM »

Mob Of Teens Brutally Attack Man In Heart Of Little Italy
http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2013/07/26/mob-of-teens-brutally-attack-man-in-heart-of-little-italy/

Posted on Monday, July 29, 2013 11:48:45 AM by MNDude

BALTIMORE (WJZ) — A man is brutally attacked by a group of teens in Little Italy. Police say four of the attackers are in custody. Three of them are juveniles. ...

The suspects range in age from 16 to 19, but police say because of the brutality of the crime, the minors aren’t being charged lightly.

“The fact that they broke this gentleman’s jaw, the decision was made and they are going to be charged as adults,” said Sgt. Eric Kowalczyk, Baltimore City Police.


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« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2013, 11:57:37 AM »

Mob Of Teens Brutally Attack Man In Heart Of Little Italy
http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2013/07/26/mob-of-teens-brutally-attack-man-in-heart-of-little-italy/

Posted on Monday, July 29, 2013 11:48:45 AM by MNDude

BALTIMORE (WJZ) — A man is brutally attacked by a group of teens in Little Italy. Police say four of the attackers are in custody. Three of them are juveniles. ...

The suspects range in age from 16 to 19, but police say because of the brutality of the crime, the minors aren’t being charged lightly.

“The fact that they broke this gentleman’s jaw, the decision was made and they are going to be charged as adults,” said Sgt. Eric Kowalczyk, Baltimore City Police.


(Excerpt) Read more at baltimore.cbslocal.com ...


I thought they kept these mulignans in check?
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« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2013, 12:01:00 PM »

Mob Of Teens Brutally Attack Man In Heart Of Little Italy
http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2013/07/26/mob-of-teens-brutally-attack-man-in-heart-of-little-italy/

Posted on Monday, July 29, 2013 11:48:45 AM by MNDude

BALTIMORE (WJZ) — A man is brutally attacked by a group of teens in Little Italy. Police say four of the attackers are in custody. Three of them are juveniles. ...

The suspects range in age from 16 to 19, but police say because of the brutality of the crime, the minors aren’t being charged lightly.

“The fact that they broke this gentleman’s jaw, the decision was made and they are going to be charged as adults,” said Sgt. Eric Kowalczyk, Baltimore City Police.


(Excerpt) Read more at baltimore.cbslocal.com ...



You won't hear a peep from racism inc until an upstanding citizen like these boys is shot trying to committ a crime
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« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2013, 02:58:33 PM »

ITALY: Young Muslims, steal from rectory, break into church, defecate and urinate by altar
WDTPRS ^  | July 30, 2013 | Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

Posted on Tuesday, July 30, 2013 3:32:42 PM by NYer

In Mantua, Italy, there was another event to inspire more dialogue.

From the Gazzetta di Mantova:


SERRAVALLE: First the broke in to the rectory at Libiola and stole money of the fund for the children of Grest; then, not satisfied, they went to the nearby church which, after last year’s earthquake, is a simple temporary structure of plastic and, next to the altar defecated and urinated. It was a contemptuous, vandalic, and sacrilegious act. Those responsible would also be identified, because a woman saw them leaving the tent. Those concerned are four young men of Moroccan origin, one a resident of Serravalle, the others from Ostiglia and nearby towns.

The article goes into more details. It ends with the priest:

In the meantime, a disappointed Fr. Eugenio [Ferrari] vented:


“If they had come to steal money because they were hungry, I wouldn’t have even gone to make the official complaint; I would have forgiven them. But what they did in the church is a gesture you just can’t overlook, it is inexcusable. … I’m sorry also because, as it seems, the deed was done by four young Moroccans. They showed disdain for our religion. But if I had done the same thing in one of their mosques, they’d cut my head off, no?”

Sts. Nunilo and Alodia, pray for us.
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