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Re: Mayweather is Sooo Boring
« Reply #50 on: May 05, 2013, 12:37:30 AM »
Hagler was a middleweight

you are right sir, i still remember Hagler vs Hearns

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« Reply #51 on: May 05, 2013, 12:58:30 AM »
you are right sir, i still remember Hagler vs Hearns
Fun fight but Hearns was around at the wrong time lol...imagine him around at 147-154 now,  no one fuckin with him....he'd beat Floyd just with that jab.

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« Reply #52 on: May 05, 2013, 01:28:35 AM »
love him or hate him but if you know boxing you have to give him his dues,hes a defensive master and probably the best boxer most of us have ever seen. His style isnt the  most exciting but dont let that take anything away from him , from a sweet science point of view, hes the best.

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« Reply #53 on: May 05, 2013, 02:44:31 AM »
I dont like to agree with "The Hammer" but he is right.

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« Reply #54 on: May 05, 2013, 03:23:15 AM »
I miss the Mike Tyson days! Robert guerrero botches about how floyd mayweather is a shitty role model hell I grew up when tyson was a role model-LOL and he smoked crack and raped women and bit peoples ears off-lol. talk about being dirty. A little holding and a elboe here and there is nothing like the old school head butts and ear biting we used to see. evander vs. Tyson was classic shit. more entertaining then today. Hell pay per view was worth it watching Tyson back then because he was unpredictable. I will not order fights anymore because it just does not match up with the old fights! I know I won't miss someone biting a ear off.

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« Reply #55 on: May 05, 2013, 03:28:47 AM »
Fun fight but Hearns was around at the wrong time lol...imagine him around at 147-154 now,  no one fuckin with him....he'd beat Floyd just with that jab.

yep

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« Reply #56 on: May 05, 2013, 04:03:17 AM »
I miss the Mike Tyson days! Robert guerrero botches about how floyd mayweather is a shitty role model hell I grew up when tyson was a role model-LOL and he smoked crack and raped women and bit peoples ears off-lol. talk about being dirty. A little holding and a elboe here and there is nothing like the old school head butts and ear biting we used to see. evander vs. Tyson was classic shit. more entertaining then today. Hell pay per view was worth it watching Tyson back then because he was unpredictable. I will not order fights anymore because it just does not match up with the old fights! I know I won't miss someone biting a ear off.

i can't believe you paid for the fight.  but fmw has nothing to worry about, because the mexican nation will buy ppv to see Saúl Álvarez get clowned like the last three mexican fighters. you need the speed of martinez in the ring with fmw, not slow, slugging mexican slugs.  fmw is on his 30 mth get paid mexican tour.   

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« Reply #57 on: May 05, 2013, 05:02:46 AM »
Hagler was the greatest ever IMHO. Never went down and was a piece of steel.

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« Reply #58 on: May 05, 2013, 05:13:36 AM »
Hagler was the greatest ever IMHO. Never went down and was a piece of steel.

you're not saying this because hagler is living it up with italian women?



btw, i think fmw would out point hagler, a slow brawler, at a catch weight vs sergio martinez.  speed and a good combination of size are fmw's enemy.  zab judah gave him issues for 3 rounds before the brawl broke out with his father, and of course, zab lost it, mentally, after that.

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« Reply #59 on: May 05, 2013, 07:01:10 AM »
Hagler was the greatest ever IMHO. Never went down and was a piece of steel.

best ever in my opinion too.
Pryor was fun to watch too.

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« Reply #60 on: May 05, 2013, 07:14:11 AM »
Floyd Mayweather is a dangerous motherfucker!

He made Robert Guerrero look like a fucking child. Guerrero looked as if he was sparring with a master trainer for the first time in his life. It literally appeared to me like a workshop where a skilled veteran boxer was showing how to deliver the most effective strikes, all the while not getting touched by a simple amateur.

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« Reply #61 on: May 05, 2013, 07:22:36 AM »
love him or hate him but if you know boxing you have to give him his dues,hes a defensive master and probably the best boxer most of us have ever seen. His style isnt the  most exciting but dont let that take anything away from him , from a sweet science point of view, hes the best.

This ^^^

The shame is that he's got no real competition to test him and make exciting fights.  He'll become another of those boxers that will get endless "what if" comparisons.

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« Reply #62 on: May 05, 2013, 07:52:49 AM »
Floyd Mayweather is a dangerous motherfucker!

He made Robert Guerrero look like a fucking child. Guerrero looked as if he was sparring with a master trainer for the first time in his life. It literally appeared to me like a workshop where a skilled veteran boxer was showing how to deliver the most effective strikes, all the while not getting touched by a simple amateur.

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Mexican brawlers or undersized fighters are made for FMW.  Do you really believe he'd put on a boxing clinic against Sergio Martinez at 152-154.  He had issues with Zab's speed, before the mental breakdown. 

If Berto had beaten Guerrero and Ortiz, FMW wouldn't have taken that  fight because of Berto's speed and desire to load up.   He won't even touch Berto after the two loses.  Ask yourself why? PPV?  Nope, he'll get his sales because people watch to see him get defeated.  The list of Mexican fighters is a PPV buy bonus.

FMW at the end is like Phil Heath now, except there is a fighter or two, who could clean FMW's clock.  Phil just showed up in a generation too late, but the right generation for his bank account.

As far as Manny goes, that was always FMW vs Arum, since he won't split ANY purse with the thieving Jew, eventhough he keeps 90%.  He won't even fight the DOG version of Manny.  You know there is bad blood with Arum about robbing him when he was with Top Rank.       
 

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« Reply #63 on: May 05, 2013, 07:58:23 AM »
 BD is correct     FMJ is like PW   great defense    
Chris Byrd was the same type of "Fighter" great defense and knew how to score points 8)

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« Reply #64 on: May 05, 2013, 08:02:14 AM »
In my opinion Sugar Ray Leonard was the best boxer I have ever seen he had it all! He fought other greats, Duran, Hagler, Hearns, etc! Floyd is great but look who he has fought! Same with Roy Jones Jr.

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« Reply #65 on: May 05, 2013, 08:08:10 AM »
Mexican brawlers or undersized fighters are made for FMW.  Do you really believe he'd put on a boxing clinic against Sergio Martinez at 152-154.  He had issues with Zab's speed, before the mental breakdown. 

If Berto had beaten Guerrero and Ortiz, FMW wouldn't have taken that  fight because of Berto's speed and desire to load up.   He won't even touch Berto after the two loses.  Ask yourself why? PPV?  Nope, he'll get his sales because people watch to see him get defeated.  The list of Mexican fighters is a PPV buy bonus.

FMW at the end is like Phil Heath now, except there is a fighter or two, who could clean FMW's clock.  Phil just showed up in a generation too late, but the right generation for his bank account.

As far as Manny goes, that was always FMW vs Arum, since he won't split ANY purse with the thieving Jew, eventhough he keeps 90%.  He won't even fight the DOG version of Manny.  You know there is bad blood with Arum about robbing him when he was with Top Rank.

For the right price, I think FMW would fight anyone.

The hypothetical between Sergio Martinez and FMW is just that, a hypothetical. I think both are amazing strikers and if they were to meet at a good weight, it would be a great fight.

Problem with boxing is that you don't have a "Dana White"-type figure that can just dictate when a fight will happen. You have boxers with managers and promoters that have as much say as the boxer (if not more) as to who they will fight based on their paydays. 

I say, cut the middle man and allow for the fans to dictate who fights who and when (based on appropriate weight class of course).

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« Reply #66 on: May 05, 2013, 09:02:10 AM »
In my opinion Sugar Ray Leonard was the best boxer I have ever seen he had it all! He fought other greats, Duran, Hagler, Hearns, etc! Floyd is great but look who he has fought! Same with Roy Jones Jr.
x2. Sugar man was the best I've seen with Duran.

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« Reply #67 on: May 05, 2013, 09:09:04 AM »
For the right price, I think FMW would fight anyone.

The hypothetical between Sergio Martinez and FMW is just that, a hypothetical. I think both are amazing strikers and if they were to meet at a good weight, it would be a great fight.

Problem with boxing is that you don't have a "Dana White"-type figure that can just dictate when a fight will happen. You have boxers with managers and promoters that have as much say as the boxer (if not more) as to who they will fight based on their paydays.  

I say, cut the middle man and allow for the fans to dictate who fights who and when (based on appropriate weight class of course).

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What middleman?  FMW dictates everything.  Yeah, the problem with Manny was the ARUM/FMW feud, but that was never a REAL fight anyway, just ARUM grabbing his 30% before Manny was used up.  Dude is undersized, has a short reach and charges in like Greg Haugen.  FMW beats him 10-2 rounds easy.  

FMW is on his 30 month retirement tour, which is loaded with slug Mexican fighters.   Not one has the skill sets to give him a challenge, they just have the audience to make the PPV buys.

Yeah, good business as usual by FMW.  

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« Reply #68 on: May 05, 2013, 09:10:33 AM »
What middleman?  FMW dictates everything.  Yeah, that the problem with Manny was the ARUM/FMW feud, but that was never a REAL fight anyway, just ARUM grabbing his 30% before Manny was used up.  Dude is undersized, has a short reach and charges in like Greg Haugen.  FMW beats him 10-2 rounds easy. 

FMW is on his 30 month retirement tour, which is loaded with slug Mexican fighters.   Not one has the skill sets to give him a challenge, they just have the audience to make the PPV buys.

Yeah, good business as usual by FMW. 

Isn't that what boxing has come down to, good business and lousy judging?

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« Reply #69 on: May 05, 2013, 09:20:28 AM »


Problem with boxing is that you don't have a "Dana White"-type figure that can just dictate when a fight will happen. You have boxers with managers and promoters that have as much say as the boxer (if not more) as to who they will fight based on their paydays.  


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dana couldnt even dictate GSP/Silva when is was  plausible now I doubt he can dictate Jones/Silva

the ufc doesnt  rely on ranking when it comes to match making

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« Reply #70 on: May 05, 2013, 09:21:41 AM »
Isn't that what boxing has come down to, good business and lousy judging?

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thats the model the UFC is striving for

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« Reply #71 on: May 05, 2013, 09:25:33 AM »

The hypothetical between Sergio Martinez and FMW is just that, a hypothetical. I think both are amazing strikers and if they were to meet at a good weight, it would be a great fight.


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sergio has enough wear and tear and is showing his age worse than floyd, its possible that floyd beat sergio at this time

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« Reply #72 on: May 05, 2013, 09:34:21 AM »
Floyd Mayweather is a dangerous motherfucker!

He made Robert Guerrero look like a fucking child. Guerrero looked as if he was sparring with a master trainer for the first time in his life. It literally appeared to me like a workshop where a skilled veteran boxer was showing how to deliver the most effective strikes, all the while not getting touched by a simple amateur.

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agreed .... floyd is anything but boring, to a boxing purist, mayweather is a pleasure to watch.  He schooled Robert, kept punishing him with that straight right.... kept out of range, then when he was in range , blocked and counter punched.... also his head movement was superb
best boxer in the world.. easy
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« Reply #73 on: May 05, 2013, 09:42:45 AM »
I could take him!
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« Reply #74 on: May 05, 2013, 09:45:39 AM »
Isn't that what boxing has come down to, good business and lousy judging?

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I disagree my friend ,  corruption (lousy  refs , bad judging , padded records, robberies ........etc ), has always been a  huge part of boxing .

Boxing= the most corrupt sport on earth