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A Texas group run by a self-described anarchist has posted what appears to be the first video of the live firing of a handgun created with a 3-D printer.

The 53-second video shows a single shot being fired from The Liberator, a plastic handgun that, with the exception of its metal firing pin, was assembled from parts made with a 3-D printer, according to Defense Distributed. The gun appears unscathed after the test firing, although the brief clip does not reveal anything about its range or accuracy.

The nonprofit group, founded by 25-year-old law student Cody Wilson, has posted instructions for the gun online so other people can duplicate it.

Wilson fired the gun Saturday and the video was posted to YouTube on Sunday. The group's self-described "Wiki Weapon Project" is about a year old. Until now, the group had only reported being able to make plastic, interchangeable parts for firearms, but not entire weapons.
The Liberator is comprised of 16 interchangeable pieces, with a nail for a firing pin. According to the group, the barrel can be changed out to fire different kinds of ammo.

Not surprisingly, reports of the test-firing have reignited calls to ban 3-D-printed guns, which critics fear could easily fall into the wrong hands and create safety concerns because they'd be invisible to metal detectors.

New York Sen. Charles Schumer is one of several politicians pushing for stricter legislation that would ban firearms created with 3-D printers.

"Passing this law would not only prevent people from making these parts, it would raise awareness on the issue," Schumer said Sunday during a news conference. "We're facing a situation where anyone -- a felon, a terrorist -- can open a gun factory in their garage."

It's an argument unlikely to sway Wilson, who has made no secret of his disdain for the U.S. government in particular and all governments in general. (Defense Distributed makes and sells components with names like "The Cuomo" and "The Pelosi," to tweak politicians who support gun control).

"This is about enabling individuals to create their own sovereign space," Wilson said last week to Forbes. "The government will increasingly be on the sidelines, saying, 'Hey, wait.' "

"It's about creating the new order in the crumbling shell of the old order."

Despite that worldview, Defense Distributed applied for, and in March received, a federal firearm license which makes it a legal gun manufacturer.

Wilson acknowledged in the interview with Forbes that his creation could be used by criminals, but suggested that demonstrating the freedom to create them is more important than trying to stop that from happening.

"I recognize that this tool might be used to harm people. That's what it is: It's a gun," Wilson said. "But I don't think that's a reason to not put it out there. I think that liberty in the end is a better interest."

Defense Distributed is based near Austin, Texas. Wilson has emerged as the face of the group, although many of its members, including the owners of the $8,000 3-D printer the group uses, have chosen to remain anonymous.

The group's future plans include expanding the range of ammunition a 3-D printed gun can fire and making the guns printable with less expensive printers, such as the $2,800 Replicator 2 by Makerbot






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This is cool, governments around the world will no longer be able to have people at their mercy!

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3D printing is an interesting topic all together.  I'm thinking about starting a little division of our company with focus on this technology. Mainly manufacturing sector.

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Guns made by traditional means can be and are used by criminals as well...
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I dont know whats the big deal about 3d printed plastic guns. you still can get the real thing much easier anyways. its not like making your own home made gun is even remotely worth it.

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I dont know whats the big deal about 3d printed plastic guns. you still can get the real thing much easier anyways. its not like making your own home made gun is even remotely worth it.

The feds can't stop them from proliferating. 3d printers will become widespread soon enough. Just like torrents, bitcoin, and any other decentralized crypto technology, CAD files can never be entirely stopped from making their way into the homes of citizens. Liberty will always be upheld, at the end of a 3D printed barrel :)

For now, yes, it's all fun and games. Just an experiment. But there may come a day when guns are not so easy to come by.

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those printers cost like $1500.   One can get an H&K or two sigs for that much.

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Reminds me of that movie "In the line of fire" with John Malkovich and Clint Eastwood, where I think Malkovich's character sneaked in a plastic gun for an assassination attempt.



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3D printing is an interesting topic all together.  I'm thinking about starting a little division of our company with focus on this technology. Mainly manufacturing sector.
yep, they have 3D printed race cars...It has been said that 3D printing will kill the need for companies to seek manufacturing products in China, India, and other Asian companies.

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A Texas group run by a self-described anarchist has posted what appears to be the first video of the live firing of a handgun created with a 3-D printer.

The 53-second video shows a single shot being fired from The Liberator, a plastic handgun that, with the exception of its metal firing pin, was assembled from parts made with a 3-D printer, according to Defense Distributed. The gun appears unscathed after the test firing, although the brief clip does not reveal anything about its range or accuracy.

The nonprofit group, founded by 25-year-old law student Cody Wilson, has posted instructions for the gun online so other people can duplicate it.

Wilson fired the gun Saturday and the video was posted to YouTube on Sunday. The group's self-described "Wiki Weapon Project" is about a year old. Until now, the group had only reported being able to make plastic, interchangeable parts for firearms, but not entire weapons.
The Liberator is comprised of 16 interchangeable pieces, with a nail for a firing pin. According to the group, the barrel can be changed out to fire different kinds of ammo.

Not surprisingly, reports of the test-firing have reignited calls to ban 3-D-printed guns, which critics fear could easily fall into the wrong hands and create safety concerns because they'd be invisible to metal detectors.

New York Sen. Charles Schumer is one of several politicians pushing for stricter legislation that would ban firearms created with 3-D printers.

"Passing this law would not only prevent people from making these parts, it would raise awareness on the issue," Schumer said Sunday during a news conference. "We're facing a situation where anyone -- a felon, a terrorist -- can open a gun factory in their garage."

It's an argument unlikely to sway Wilson, who has made no secret of his disdain for the U.S. government in particular and all governments in general. (Defense Distributed makes and sells components with names like "The Cuomo" and "The Pelosi," to tweak politicians who support gun control).

"This is about enabling individuals to create their own sovereign space," Wilson said last week to Forbes. "The government will increasingly be on the sidelines, saying, 'Hey, wait.' "

"It's about creating the new order in the crumbling shell of the old order."

Despite that worldview, Defense Distributed applied for, and in March received, a federal firearm license which makes it a legal gun manufacturer.

Wilson acknowledged in the interview with Forbes that his creation could be used by criminals, but suggested that demonstrating the freedom to create them is more important than trying to stop that from happening.

"I recognize that this tool might be used to harm people. That's what it is: It's a gun," Wilson said. "But I don't think that's a reason to not put it out there. I think that liberty in the end is a better interest."

Defense Distributed is based near Austin, Texas. Wilson has emerged as the face of the group, although many of its members, including the owners of the $8,000 3-D printer the group uses, have chosen to remain anonymous.

The group's future plans include expanding the range of ammunition a 3-D printed gun can fire and making the guns printable with less expensive printers, such as the $2,800 Replicator 2 by Makerbot








 Just in case you didn't know... you can download and print an AR15 with no serial number.
 A ghost gun.

 And you worry about a pistol?
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 Just in case you didn't know... you can download and print an AR15 with no serial number.
 A ghost gun.

 And you worry about a pistol?

Who cares about printing when you can make a AK47 out of a shovel, like this dude did: http://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/build-yourself/179192-diy-shovel-ak-photo-tsunami-warning.html

I've shot with Boris before. Good dude.

Edit: pics are busted. Pics are here: http://thechive.com/2012/12/06/apparently-you-can-make-an-ak-47-out-of-just-about-anything-25-photos/

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yep, they have 3D printed race cars...It has been said that 3D printing will kill the need for companies to seek manufacturing products in China, India, and other Asian companies.

I will be taking a course on it to educate myself a little deeper starting next month, maybe see if we can integrate some existing applications we offer. It's a game changer for sure.

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I will be taking a course on it to educate myself a little deeper starting next month, maybe see if we can integrate some existing applications we offer. It's a game changer for sure.
http://jalopnik.com/5938012/first-3d+printed-racecar-is-real-and-real-fast
http://jalopnik.com/tag/3-d-printing

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Reminds me of that movie "In the line of fire" with John Malkovich and Clint Eastwood, where I think Malkovich's character sneaked in a plastic gun for an assassination attempt.



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Seems like a good way to get your hands blown off.

Plastic pistol, one shot - OK - I can see that.

Plastic Assault Rifle? Fuuuuck being near one of those after a couple of shots.

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yep, the future is here, maybe I ll buy a 3d printer so I can print a flying car for me

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The feds can't stop them from proliferating. 3d printers will become widespread soon enough. Just like torrents, bitcoin, and any other decentralized crypto technology, CAD files can never be entirely stopped from making their way into the homes of citizens. Liberty will always be upheld, at the end of a 3D printed barrel :)

For now, yes, it's all fun and games. Just an experiment. But there may come a day when guns are not so easy to come by.

It seem to be easy when they show you only the outcome about the matter, but if I give you a 3D printer and drawings, there is nothing you can do with them. First of all, you need a software to open drawings and print them, you need to know how and what to do to get best possible print, there is lots of this and that before you have printed anything, and what is the point of all this? You get the single shot bb-gun, which doesn't shoot straight. Furthermore, it uses single shot barrels, so how usefull the gun really is? If you need to shot yourself in space which has metall detectors all over it, this could be right tool for that.

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It seem to be easy when they show you only the outcome about the matter, but if I give you a 3D printer and drawings, there is nothing you can do with them. First of all, you need a software to open drawings and print them, you need to know how and what to do to get best possible print, there is lots of this and that before you have printed anything, and what is the point of all this? You get the single shot bb-gun, which doesn't shoot straight. Furthermore, it uses single shot barrels, so how usefull the gun really is? If you need to shot yourself in space which has metall detectors all over it, this could be right tool for that.

This is only the beginning.  You sound like Paul Krugman when he said "Internet will have no Greater Econ Impact than Fax Machines by 2005".

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Guns made by traditional means can be and are used by criminals as well...

yes but these can bypass metal detectors. All you need is a single shot to take out someone important.  This is just the beginning.  People learn how to make these designs better.

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yes but these can bypass metal detectors. All you need is a single shot to take out someone important.  This is just the beginning.  People learn how to make these designs better.

So they make plastic bullets now, too?  ::)


The gun also has a metal firing pin.

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yep, they have 3D printed race cars...It has been said that 3D printing will kill the need for companies to seek manufacturing products in China, India, and other Asian companies.
Wow, this guy also knows everything about economics in addition to Brazilian girls. Only question is, how come he's broke and can't get laid?

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So they make plastic bullets now, too?  ::)


The gun also has a metal firing pin.

You can integrate the firing pin into a bracelet or watch.  You will see carbon fiber or Kevlar bullets soon.  It's only time.

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This is an example of a fearful government trying to legislate away innovation. The American spirit won't allow it.