Should go off after 12 weeks or 16 weeks??

[anabolichalo]

in 12th week now

last week i had the most pressing strength i have ever had in my life

like the roids are really kicking in


but then i realize i have to quit now according to the plan


then i play with the idea to stay on for 16 weeks


now i feel like a junkie somehow addicted to the needle


but the gains are so good


maybe i should do 16 weeks on 8 weeks of forever

[Big Chiro Flex]

Don't come off. Drop down to 200mg for 12 weeks, then "blast" again. Also, keep your abs tight throughout the whole process.

[Borracho]

keep going

[anabolichalo]

also i want to become sterile because of roids, how do i do this?

i thought it would be easy but coleman has at least 8 children and never came off realistically speaking

[SquatsRule]

If you want to recover your natural test, 12 weeks is better than 16. If you want to bodybuild, stay on.

[Borracho]

also i want to become sterile because of roids, how do i do this?

Me too...harder than they make it seem.

Maybe punch your nuts 3 x a day  

[anabolichalo]

If you want to recover your natural test, 12 weeks is better than 16. If you want to bodybuild, stay on.

does this mean 12 weeks is better for cycle principle

and 16 weeks better for blastncruize principle


?

[Borracho]

Don't see the point in restoring hormone levels one wasn't satisfied with....

[anabolichalo]

Don't see the point in restoring hormone levels one wasn't satisfied with....

unless the alternative is even worse levels obviously 


 

[Marine]

Don't see the point in restoring hormone levels one wasn't satisfied with....

rofl

[SquatsRule]

does this mean 12 weeks is better for cycle principle

and 16 weeks better for blastncruize principle


?

I mean it's easier to restore your natural hormone levels after a twelve week cycle.

[anabolichalo]

I mean it's easier to restore your natural hormone levels after a twelve week cycle.

yes but i mean would that help to keep your gains

or do your levels take so much time to restore that by that time gains are gone and time for new cycle?

in that case it's pointleess

[anabolichalo]

i'm leaning towards 12 weeks now

because i'm still not sure if the roids are affecting my hairloss

so i'm gonna quit for a while just to be sure

[Earl1972]

only your military press improved?  no other lifts?

E

[anabolichalo]

only your military press improved?  no other lifts?

E

bench and curl and skull crusher

[OTHstrong]

also i want to become sterile because of roids, how do i do this?

i thought it would be easy but coleman has at least 8 children and never came off realistically speaking

When I wanted to have my second child I was on 2000mg per week and brought some hcg into the mix and had my child, that's it, didn't even come off the juice.

[OTHstrong]

I mean it's easier to restore your natural hormone levels after a twelve week cycle.

No, it would not make an inch of a difference at all, anything under 8 months is all the same, maybe after this it may be harder, but 12 to 16 weeks, same shit.

[anabolichalo]

No, it would not make an inch of a difference at all, anything under 8 months is all the same, maybe after this it may be harder, but 12 to 16 weeks, same shit.

on what do you base this claim?

is there any research on it anyway


thanks


still probably going off after this week just to make sure for the hairloss

[OTHstrong]

yes but i mean would that help to keep your gains

or do your levels take so much time to restore that by that time gains are gone and time for new cycle?

in that case it's pointleess

without any pct it can take 4-6 weeks, with pct a week or 2, with hcg a few days, in fact start some hcg before you are off and continue a couple weeks after and you will go straight from hormonized to natural production without interuptions at all.

[anabolichalo]

without any pct it can take 4-6 weeks, with pct a week or 2, with hcg a few days, in fact start some hcg before you are off and continue a couple weeks after and you will go straight from hormonized to natural production without interuptions at all.

pct = hcg?

fuck

i just received nolvadex in the mail


did i order the wrong drug?

[OTHstrong]

on what do you base this claim?

is there any research on it anyway


thanks


still probably going off after this week just to make sure for the hairloss

bro, the body does not know or care how long it has been on for, it just knows that it is getting outside help so it stops production and when it realizes there is no outside help it starts back again.

Even though I said 8 months, that is not even normal but things may have gone wrong at this point, I have known people who have been on for 5 years and get their natural production in a few weeks with no pct, trust me I do contest prep, this is based on experience and reality not some BS studies. I always that you were messing about bro but if you want answers I am here to help.

[OTHstrong]

pct = hcg?

fuck

i just received nolvadex in the mail


did i order the wrong drug?

no you are good with nolvadex but nothing does it faster then hcg, it is simply the best but don't sweat it nolvadex is good, it will fast forward the process.

[anabolichalo]

bro, the body does know or care how long it has been on for, it just knows that it is getting outside help so it stops production and when it realizes there is no outside help it starts back again.

Even though I said 8 months, that is not even normal but things may have gone wrong at this point, I have known people who have been on for 5 years and get their natural production in a few weeks with no pct, trust me I do contest prep, this is based on experience and reality not some BS studies. I always that you were messing about bro but if you want answers I am here to help.

oh thanks friend for the advice

no, not messing around, bb is basically the only thing that keeps me going lol (well one of the main things anyway)


but the reason i dont have the ballz to stay on too long is because even tho i take 2.5mg of finasteride per day with this 300mg test/week, and it should theoretically not cause more hairloss

i'm still terrified of fucking up my hair more than it already is  



hair is something strange, samir banout was a full full thick head of hair througout his career, now bald as a bowling ball

[OTHstrong]

oh thanks friend for the advice

no, not messing around, bb is basically the only thing that keeps me going lol (well one of the main things anyway)


but the reason i dont have the ballz to stay on too long is because even tho i take 2.5mg of finasteride per day with this 300mg test/week, and it should theoretically not cause more hairloss

i'm still terrified of fucking up my hair more than it already is  



hair is something strange, samir banout was a full full thick head of hair througout his career, now bald as a bowling ball

check my post again, I edit it, I meant to put ''the body does NOT know'', I forgot the 'not.

[anabolichalo]

no you are good with nolvadex but nothing does it faster then hcg, it is simply the best but don't sweat it nolvadex is good, it will fast forward the process.

so i should already get on it now then if i plan on stopping after this week

any dosage you can recommend and frequency of taking it


THANKS

MUCH APPRECIATED