George HW Bush Resignation Letter from the NRA

[Straw Man]

Following is the letter of resignation sent last week by former President George Bush to the National Rifle Association: May 3, 1995

It would be f'ng AMAZING to see a Republican doing this today

http://www.nytimes.com/1995/05/11/us/letter-of-resignation-sent-by-bush-to-rifle-association.html

Dear Mr. Washington,

I was outraged when, even in the wake of the Oklahoma City tragedy, Mr. Wayne LaPierre, executive vice president of N.R.A., defended his attack on federal agents as "jack-booted thugs." To attack Secret Service agents or A.T.F. people or any government law enforcement people as "wearing Nazi bucket helmets and black storm trooper uniforms" wanting to "attack law abiding citizens" is a vicious slander on good people.

Al Whicher, who served on my [ United States Secret Service ] detail when I was Vice President and President, was killed in Oklahoma City. He was no Nazi. He was a kind man, a loving parent, a man dedicated to serving his country -- and serve it well he did.

In 1993, I attended the wake for A.T.F. agent Steve Willis, another dedicated officer who did his duty. I can assure you that this honorable man, killed by weird cultists, was no Nazi.


John Magaw, who used to head the U.S.S.S. and now heads A.T.F., is one of the most principled, decent men I have ever known. He would be the last to condone the kind of illegal behavior your ugly letter charges. The same is true for the F.B.I.'s able Director Louis Freeh. I appointed Mr. Freeh to the Federal Bench. His integrity and honor are beyond question.

Both John Magaw and Judge Freeh were in office when I was President. They both now serve in the current administration. They both have badges. Neither of them would ever give the government's "go ahead to harass, intimidate, even murder law abiding citizens." (Your words)

I am a gun owner and an avid hunter. Over the years I have agreed with most of N.R.A.'s objectives, particularly your educational and training efforts, and your fundamental stance in favor of owning guns.

However, your broadside against Federal agents deeply offends my own sense of decency and honor; and it offends my concept of service to country. It indirectly slanders a wide array of government law enforcement officials, who are out there, day and night, laying their lives on the line for all of us.

You have not repudiated Mr. LaPierre's unwarranted attack. Therefore, I resign as a Life Member of N.R.A., said resignation to be effective upon your receipt of this letter. Please remove my name from your membership list. Sincerely, [ signed ] George Bush

[Fury]

Record attendance at latest NRA conference, up 15k from last year. The NRA continues to poll more popularly than Obama.

In short, this thread = LOL!

[Straw Man]

Record attendance at latest NRA conference, up 15k from last year. The NRA continues to poll more popularly than Obama.

In short, this thread = LOL!

No current Republican would have the balls to do what Bush did in 1995

In spite of increase in attendance at the NRA gun nut circle jerk the percentage of households with guns is declining and has been for decades
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/10/us/rate-of-gun-ownership-is-down-survey-shows.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

what is likely happening is that more people are buying multiple guns and the NRA has long ago stopped being an association for hunting, gun safety, etc.. and has become a lightening rod for for wingnuts who think they need to guns for some future fight with the government

Recent poll showed that 44% of Republicans think in the next few years that "armed revolution might be necessary to protect our liberties): http://publicmind.fdu.edu/2013/guncontrol/

[Skip8282]

No current Republican would have the balls to do what Bush did in 1995

Doesn't take balls to be a quitter.  Besides, I thought you hated quitters.  That was one of your whole mantras against Palin (and rightly so).

[Straw Man]

Doesn't take balls to be a quitter.  Besides, I thought you hated quitters.  That was one of your whole mantras against Palin (and rightly so).

did you see the reason he gave for resigning

It was the vile rhetoric by LaPierre in the aftermath of the OK City bombing

Nothing has changed today except no Republican has the balls to call him out on it

[Skip8282]

did you see the reason he gave for resigning

It was the vile rhetoric by LaPierre in the aftermath of the OK City bombing

Nothing has changed today except no Republican has the balls to call him out on it

I see.  So quitting is ok as long as you agree with the reasons.

[Straw Man]

I see.  So quitting is ok as long as you agree with the reasons.

of course

where did you ever get the idea that all quitting (in this case it's merely resigning a membership in an organization that allows it's spokeperson to make vile comments) was a bad thing

It's not like, for example, Sarah Palin quitting halfway through her term as governor so that she could personally enrich herself rather than serving the public in the job she said she wanted

do you really need me to explain this shit to you?

[Skip8282]

of course

where did you ever get the idea that all quitting (in this case it's merely resigning a membership in an organization that allows it's spokeperson to make vile comments) was a bad thing

It's not like, for example, Sarah Palin quitting halfway through her term as governor so that she could personally enrich herself rather than serving the public in the job she said she wanted

do you really need me to explain this shit to you?

That's not why she quit...that's what you decided to make up.

If you had any integrity you would see the sheer hypocrisy in your argument.

[Straw Man]

That's not why she quit...that's what you decided to make up.

If you had any integrity you would see the sheer hypocrisy in your argument.

that's the reason that most people assume but then again whatever her reason really is it probably doesn't even matter to you

right

no one should ever quit anything for any reason...and let's put it in a time frame.... ever

is that the gospel according to Skippy?

[Skip8282]

that's the reason that most people assume but then again whatever her reason really is it probably doesn't even matter to you

right

no one should ever quit anything for any reason...and let's put it in a time frame.... ever

is that the gospel according to Skippy?

No...that's your dumbass gospel.


First you make shit up about why she quit, then attacked her for being a quitter.  Not to mention that you're the one always crying like a baby over misleading titles or 33 making shit up. 

Now Bush is a quitter, but you like that, so you don't make up any shit about him and his quitting is ok.


Makes total sense I guess in your world.

[240 is Back]

It would be f'ng AMAZING to see a Republican doing this today

It woudln't surprise me, actually.

Romney wrote one of the strictest anti-gun bills in american history for his state.  And the NRA backed him, as did 50 million republicans. 

Ron Paul is about as pro-gun as is humanly possible, and repubs discounted him because he didn't promise to bomb iran enough times.

[Straw Man]

No...that's your dumbass gospel.


First you make shit up about why she quit, then attacked her for being a quitter.  Not to mention that you're the one always crying like a baby over misleading titles or 33 making shit up.  

Now Bush is a quitter, but you like that, so you don't make up any shit about him and his quitting is ok.


Makes total sense I guess in your world.

not my gospel at all
Many Republicans and people in her own state felt that way (I'm sure you know this and are just playing dumb)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resignation_of_Sarah_Palin

still can't figure out why you think no one should ever quit anything

Bush's reasons for resigning are quite clear and any average 5th grader could read that letter and understand it (ignoring the fact that I spelled it out for you in deference to your pretense of ignorance)

[Skip8282]

not my gospel at all
Many Republicans and people in her own state felt that way (I'm sure you know this and are just playing dumb)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resignation_of_Sarah_Palin

still can't figure out why you think no one should ever quit anything

Bush's reasons for resigning are quite clear and any average 5th grader could read that letter and understand it (ignoring the fact that I spelled it out for you in deference to your pretense of ignorance)

Palin's reasons were quite clear...you've just decided to make shit up.


In this case, we have 2 people, each of whom quit because of something they didn't like.

They're both quitters.

But, since you like the reasons of one of the people, that 'took balls'...and the other is a useless tool.





Edit:  Though Palin is a useless tool, haha.

[Straw Man]

Palin's reasons were quite clear...you've just decided to make shit up.


In this case, we have 2 people, each of whom quit because of something they didn't like.

They're both quitters.

But, since you like the reasons of one of the people, that 'took balls'...and the other is a useless tool.





Edit:  Though Palin is a useless tool, haha.

I didn't make anything up

I'm just repeating what others have said and even given you sources

I've also explained (not that anyone who could read would need my help) why Bush resigned from the NRA and pointed out that La Piere continues to use such vile rhetoric yet no modern Republican has the balls to call him on it (other than Chris Christie but then Repubs don't like him much these days - not even sure if they still consider him a member of their club)

[Skip8282]

I didn't make anything up

I'm just repeating what others have said and even given you sources

I've also explained (not that anyone who could read would need my help) why Bush resigned from the NRA and pointed out that La Piere continues to use such vile rhetoric yet no modern Republican has the balls to call him on it (other than Chris Christie but then Repubs don't like him much these days - not even sure if they still consider him a member of their club)

Yes, you made it up.  Whether you're doing the speculating or someone else is doing the speculating, speculation is just that - making something up.


And, since it keeps going over your head, we'll try again:



In this case, we have 2 people, each of whom quit because of something they didn't like.

They're both quitters.

But, since you like the reasons of one of the people, that 'took balls'...and the other is a useless tool.

- Skip, circa 10 minutes ago.

[Straw Man]

Yes, you made it up.  Whether you're doing the speculating or someone else is doing the speculating, speculation is just that - making something up.


And, since it keeps going over your head, we'll try again:



In this case, we have 2 people, each of whom quit because of something they didn't like.

They're both quitters.

But, since you like the reasons of one of the people, that 'took balls'...and the other is a useless tool.

- Skip, circa 10 minutes ago.

how is it that I "made it up" when you I showed you example of other people (in her own party and constituents in her own state) saying the very same thing.  I guess we all could have just made it up together

I still have no idea what your point is regarding "quitting"

The NRA spokeperson made vile (and let's not forget fucking absurd) comments about government agents and Bush took offense and publicly renounced his membership

Other than Chris Christie, there is no other Republican with the balls to make this kind of statement today even though LaPierre has continued with his insane rhetoric to this very day

I am a gun owner and an avid hunter. Over the years I have agreed with most of N.R.A.'s objectives, particularly your educational and training efforts, and your fundamental stance in favor of owning guns.

However, your broadside against Federal agents deeply offends my own sense of decency and honor; and it offends my concept of service to country. It indirectly slanders a wide array of government law enforcement officials, who are out there, day and night, laying their lives on the line for all of us.

You have not repudiated Mr. LaPierre's unwarranted attack. Therefore, I resign as a Life Member of N.R.A., said resignation to be effective upon your receipt of this letter. Please remove my name from your membership list. Sincerely, [ signed ] George Bush

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Edit:  Though Palin is a useless tool, haha.

Repubs use her for ratings.  Well, they did before FOX viewers got sick of her. 

Dems use her to sap the spotlight from really good Republicans.  Every time Rand or Cruz should be on highlight reel speaking, woah, there's palin with her wig and shrill voice, delivering one-liners she read on free republican with just terrible comedic timing. 

She is the reason people still think repubs are batshit crazy/stupid.  Repubs should unite and ask all idiots among them to STFU.  1% of fools making 99% of party look bad. 

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Following is the letter of resignation sent last week by former President George Bush to the National Rifle Association: May 3, 1995

It would be f'ng AMAZING to see a Republican doing this today

http://www.nytimes.com/1995/05/11/us/letter-of-resignation-sent-by-bush-to-rifle-association.html

Republicans like Reagan and HW had balls back in the day and they weren't afraid to piss off their constituents if they didn't agree with their actions.  George did the right thing and it may have cost him the election but he stuck to his guns to put it mildly. 

[Straw Man]

Repubs use her for ratings.  Well, they did before FOX viewers got sick of her. 

Dems use her to sap the spotlight from really good Republicans.  Every time Rand or Cruz should be on highlight reel speaking, woah, there's palin with her wig and shrill voice, delivering one-liners she read on free republican with just terrible comedic timing. 

She is the reason people still think repubs are batshit crazy/stupid.  Repubs should unite and ask all idiots among them to STFU.  1% of fools making 99% of party look bad. 

she's far from the only reason why Repubs appear to be batshit crazy

keep in mind that a recent poll claims that 44% of their party think they are going to have to have armed conflict with the government in the next few years and 49% of GOP voters nationally say they think that ACORN stole the election for President Obama in 2012

there is no shortage of "fucking stupid" in that party and it's not fair to blame it all on Palin nor to forget that she has a huge receptive audience for her insane comments.  

[Straw Man]

Republicans like Reagan and HW had balls back in the day and they weren't afraid to piss off their constituents if they didn't agree with their actions.  George did the right thing and it may have cost him the election but he stuck to his guns to put it mildly. 

Bush wasn't POTUS when he publicly repudiated and resigned from the NRA

[Straw Man]

Something else to keep in mind about the NRA

They are a fringe MINORITY group in this country

They just have a lot of money and political power and their main concern in selling guns.......period

They exist to promote gun sales

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Bush wasn't POTUS when he publicly repudiated and resigned from the NRA

Whoops....    I was thinking for some odd reason 92-96.  Oh well,

[Skip8282]

I still have no idea what your point is regarding "quitting"

Yeah, I know.

[Fury]

Wow, StrawAnus got destroyed by Skip!

[Skip8282]

Repubs use her for ratings.  Well, they did before FOX viewers got sick of her. 

Dems use her to sap the spotlight from really good Republicans.  Every time Rand or Cruz should be on highlight reel speaking, woah, there's palin with her wig and shrill voice, delivering one-liners she read on free republican with just terrible comedic timing. 

She is the reason people still think repubs are batshit crazy/stupid.  Repubs should unite and ask all idiots among them to STFU.  1% of fools making 99% of party look bad. 

No she's not.  She made certain mistakes that political candidates just can't make.  And, she's clearly not the brightest bulb.

But Repubs have a lot of issues, chief among them, IMO, is their complete inability to adapt to the social changes of the country.