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Re: The Benghazi Testamonies
« Reply #125 on: May 20, 2013, 05:36:49 AM »
you just keep on living in fantasy land with the rest of the stupid party    the far right nut jobs at their best

How is it fantasy land?  Hicks said he told Hillary instantly it was a terrorist attack and after that Hillary never called him back and that he could only get in touch w a the lybians who had later informed him of Stevens' death.

Additionally - remember the lie Obama told about the lybians trying to help Stevens?  LIE!!!  They took him to an alqueada run hospital where he was raped and sodomized.

There is all while that ghetto welfare crack head son of a whore went to bed resting up for a party w Jay Z on the Ann of 9/11

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Re: The Benghazi Testamonies
« Reply #126 on: May 20, 2013, 08:13:11 AM »
Bombshell in the Benghazi e-mails: The CIA warned of impending jihadist attack

Special to WorldTribune.com
 
By Grace Vuoto

 
The White House recently released more than 100 pages of e-mails between the CIA, State Department and the White House regarding the now infamous talking points.
 
President Barack Obama insists “there is no there, there,” as he stated during a May 13 press conference. Yet, the opposite is true. There is a bombshell there.
 

Thousands of Egyptian protesters demonstrate outside U.S. embassy in Cairo on Sept. 11, 2012. /AP
 
The CIA had warned on Sept. 10, 2012, one day before the attack on the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, of the possibility of a jihadist attack on an American embassy.
 
We now know that on Sept. 15, 2012, when then-CIA Director David Petraeus read the final version of the talking points, he wrote in an e-mail: “No mention of the cable to Cairo, either? I’d just as soon not use this, then…NSS’s (National Security Staff) call to be sure…”
 
At that point, all references to the perpetrators of the Benghazi attack, Ansar al-Sharia, a Libyan Al Qaida affiliate, had been redacted. The cable to Cairo contained a warning that Al Qaida-linked jihadists might strike the American embassy there, according to The Weekly Standard.
 
As an earlier version of the talking points put it: “On September 10 we warned of social media reports calling for a demonstration in front of the Embassy Cairo and that jihadists were threatening to break into the Embassy.”
 
In other words, America’s intelligence community feared there was danger in Cairo even before the rally occurred the following day. On September 11, there was no “spontaneous demonstration” protesting an anti-Muslim video in Egypt (or in Benghazi for that matter), as the administration would later claim, especially by U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice who misled the public Sept.16 on five Sunday talk shows.
 
Instead, there was a rally in Cairo organized by five well-known Al Qaida-linked jihadists who had previously been jailed for terrorist activity, according to an Oct. 26 report by Thomas Joscelyn in The Long War Journal. This rally was an Al Qaida love-fest. Flags floated in the crowd honoring Al Qaida and the crowd chanted: “Obama, Obama! We are all Osama!” The five senior jihadist organizers were simply using the anti-Muslim video to gin up even more outrage and anti-American sentiment. The video was merely an appendage in their greater quest to proclaim, loudly and boldly that “Al Qaida’s ideology lives,” according to the detailed report.
 
Thus, Mr. Petraeus expressed his dismay on Sept.15 that a key piece of information — the essential context — was omitted. Without this, the talking points were one giant mess.
 
Yet, if this key piece of information were indeed revealed, the Obama administration would be exposed as having lied about the receding Al Qaida threat around the world. They would also appear to be incompetent in preventing another attack on sovereign American soil, right after having been warned that it might occur.
 
It was precisely this that Mr. Obama and then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton were determined to conceal amidst the heated and closely contested 2012 presidential campaign. If they could convince the American people that both the Cairo and Benghazi events were spontaneous, then they could not be accused of failing to prevent the violent outbreaks that occurred.
 
The truth is now simple, stark and a scathing indictment of the Obama administration: On Sept. 10, the CIA knew that Al Qaida-linked jihadists posed a threat; they were stirring animosity, possibly endangering the American embassy in Cairo.
 
The Obama administration did not heed the warning of the intelligence community, nor have the good sense to fortify defenses in a “high-risk” outpost such as the consulate in Benghazi. Hence, when jihadists struck in Libya and four Americans died, Mr. Obama and his entourage grasped immediately that if the public understood the correct sequence of events, the Obama team would be lampooned out of office.
 
Every part of this story reveals the glaring failures of Mr. Obama’s foreign policy: The pro-jihadist rally in Cairo exposed the president as having badly miscalculated from the start of his term. There, in the very place where on June 4, 2009, he had proclaimed “a new beginning” for America and the Muslim world, terrorists now spewed hatred on the United States and celebrated Osama bin Laden as their champion and hero. And they also continued to threaten imminent violence.
 
In addition, the emails and cables the intelligence community had sent, warning of danger to a U.S. embassy on Sept. 11, 2012 (even if it was that in Cairo) should have put every security team in every American outpost on high alert for a possible strike, with contingency plans in place to counterattack and rescue Americans who might be in harm’s way. By contrast, Mr. Obama’s staff was caught completely flat-footed when jihadists struck in Benghazi.
 
When terrorists attacked in Libya, U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens called his second-in-command, Deputy Chief of Mission Gregory Hicks and said, “Greg, we are under attack.” Mr. Hicks, as he testified in a May 8 congressional hearing, then called Mrs. Clinton and relayed that the U.S. diplomatic mission was besieged. And somewhere, somehow, as the horror unfolded, in the middle of that fateful night, an evil order to “stand down” was issued. A military rescue would not even be attempted. For the dark secret had to be preserved at all costs. If Americans had to die, so be it. In other words, the plot to conceal Mr. Obama’s glaring failures was concocted.
 
Thus, Ambassador Stevens, Sean Smith, Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty became four casualties in the glorious cause of the re-election of the very man whose entire foreign policy had just gone up in smoke.
 
Dr. Grace Vuoto is the Executive Director of the Edmund Burke Institute for American Renewal.

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Re: The Benghazi Testamonies
« Reply #127 on: May 20, 2013, 08:32:03 AM »
The only good part about this story (and the same can be said about the IRS and AP stories) will be 333's tears just like on the day of the election

hey 333 - when exactly is the collapse of the nation going to happen.   Remember the hundreds if not thousands of hours of your life you devoted to warning us about that nonsense?

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Re: The Benghazi Testamonies
« Reply #128 on: May 20, 2013, 08:41:09 AM »
We are supposed to be all communist by now.

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Re: The Benghazi Testamonies
« Reply #129 on: May 20, 2013, 08:42:05 AM »
We are supposed to be all communist by now.

Well we are a fascist state already by oba'as war on the press - which even liberals today are admitting to.


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Re: The Benghazi Testamonies
« Reply #130 on: May 20, 2013, 08:46:09 AM »
Well we are a fascist state already by oba'as war on the press - which even liberals today are admitting to.


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You must be so miserable being impacted and influenced by SPIN daily, hourly and every minute.



Fascist State

fas·cism  [fash-iz-uhm]  Show IPA
noun
1.
( sometimes initial capital letter  ) a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.
2.
( sometimes initial capital letter  ) the philosophy, principles, or methods of fascism.
3.
( initial capital letter  ) a political movement that employs the principles and methods of fascism, especially the one established by Mussolini in Italy 1922–43.

The Fascist State

Fascism has found adherents in all countries. Its essentially vague and emotional nature facilitates the development of unique national varieties, whose leaders often deny indignantly that they are fascists at all. In its dictatorial methods and in its use of brutal intimidation of the opposition by the militia and the secret police, fascism does not greatly distinguish itself from other despotic and totalitarian regimes. There are particular similarities with the Communist regime in the Soviet Union under Joseph Stalin. However, unlike Communism, fascism abhors the idea of a classless society and sees desirable order only in a state in which each class has its distinct place and function. Representation by classes (i.e., capital, labor, farmers, and professionals) is substituted for representation by parties, and the corporative state is a part of fascist dogma.

Although Mussolini's and Hitler's governments tended to interfere considerably in economic life and to regulate its process, there can be no doubt that despite all restrictions imposed on them, the capitalist and landowning classes were protected by the fascist system, and many favored it as an obstacle to socialization. On the other hand, the state adopted a paternalistic attitude toward labor, improving its conditions in some respects, reducing unemployment through large-scale public works and armament programs, and controlling its leisure time through organized activities.

Many of these features were adopted by the Franco regime in Spain and by quasi-fascist dictators in Latin America (e.g., Juan Perón ) and elsewhere. A variation of fascism was the so-called clerico-fascist system set up in Austria under Engelbert Dollfuss . This purported to be based on the social and economic doctrines enunciated by Pope Leo XIII and Pope Pius XI, which, however, were never put into operation.

Fascism (pron.: /ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism[1][2] that came to prominence in mid-20th century Europe. Fascists seek to unify their nation through a totalitarian state that promotes the mass mobilization of the national community,[3][4] relying on a vanguard party to initiate a revolution to organize the nation on fascist principles.[5] Hostile to liberal democracy, socialism, and communism, fascist movements share certain common features, including the veneration of the state, a devotion to a strong leader, and an emphasis on ultranationalism, ethnocentrism, and militarism. Fascism views political violence, war, and imperialism as a means to achieve national rejuvenation[3][6][7][8] and asserts that nations and races deemed superior should attain living space by displacing ones deemed weak or inferior.[9]

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Re: The Benghazi Testamonies
« Reply #131 on: May 20, 2013, 08:50:32 AM »
a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.



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Re: The Benghazi Testamonies
« Reply #132 on: May 20, 2013, 08:59:13 AM »
a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.



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can you give some examples of Obama acting like a dictator with "complete power" (before you answer try to keep in mind images of real dictators like Pol Pot, Stalin, Saddam, the various nutbags in North Korea etc..) and also please cite some examples of Obama "forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism"


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« Reply #133 on: May 20, 2013, 09:04:50 AM »
can you give some examples of Obama acting like a dictator with "complete power" (before you answer try to keep in mind images of real dictators like Pol Pot, Stalin, Saddam, the various nutbags in North Korea etc..) and also please cite some examples of Obama "forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism"



NLRB appointments, violating the judges rules in issuing the permits for drilling, attacking the press who report on his criminal admn, the drone strikes, starting a war in lybia w no approval, running guns to mexican cartels, attacking Boeing and Gibson Guitar, abusing the IRS, abusing the DOJ, the seizing of ap records based on no evidence at all, etc etc   


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Re: The Benghazi Testamonies
« Reply #134 on: May 20, 2013, 09:05:04 AM »
can you give some examples of Obama acting like a dictator with "complete power" (before you answer try to keep in mind images of real dictators like Pol Pot, Stalin, Saddam, the various nutbags in North Korea etc..) and also please cite some examples of Obama "forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism"

Pol Pot's reign of terror pretty much matches obama's first two months in office.

There are many accounts of what happened during the time Pol Pot was in power. It is said that all the cities were evacuated and its residents were either killed or sent to work camps. Anyone who was suspected of being educated i.e. doctors, lawyers, teachers, etc... Were killed because they were enemies of the state. Citizens of the cities were denied basic human rights even including food. Families were outlawed and children were forced to leave their parents and pledge their support to Pol Pot. Their was never any attempt to form any type of government, and all communications to outside countries
ceased to exist (except for conflict with Vietnamese troops). Many died of disease because there were no longer any medicine or doctors. Refugees who make it to Thailand report atrocities of the worst kind:
executions of children, only because they were not born of peasant families or of Vietnamese or Chinese origin. Whosoever was suspected of being educated, or to be a member of a merchant family, was murdered: clubbed to death, not shot, in order to save ammunition



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Re: The Benghazi Testamonies
« Reply #135 on: May 20, 2013, 09:07:02 AM »
NLRB appointments, violating the judges rules in issuing the permits for drilling, attacking the press who report on his criminal admn, the drone strikes, starting a war in lybia w no approval, running guns to mexican cartels, attacking Boeing and Gibson Guitar, abusing the IRS, abusing the DOJ, the seizing of ap records based on no evidence at all, etc etc   

so you're saying you have no clue what the words "complete power" and "forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism" actually mean

you should spend a few days in North Korea

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« Reply #136 on: May 20, 2013, 09:12:13 AM »
so you're saying you have no clue what the words "complete power" and "forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism" actually mean

you should spend a few days in North Korea

he lives in NYC.  it's nothing more than a taller, balder version of Pyongyang.

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« Reply #137 on: May 20, 2013, 09:22:06 AM »
he lives in NYC.  it's nothing more than a taller, balder version of Pyongyang.

How many hours do you think 333 would be alive after his first post on the North Korean version of GB.com*
































*of course this is a trick question nothing like GB.com would ever even be allowed

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Re: The Benghazi Testamonies
« Reply #138 on: May 20, 2013, 09:24:06 AM »
How many hours do you think 333 would be alive after his first post on the North Korean version of GB.com*

*of course this is a trick question nothing like GB.com would ever even be allowed


I bet the message boards were no fun under Stalin.   

All Gulags and 1.0k dialup speeds.

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Re: The Benghazi Testamonies
« Reply #139 on: May 20, 2013, 09:57:58 AM »
so you're saying you have no clue what the words "complete power" and "forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism" actually mean

you should spend a few days in North Korea

He can't.  this guy is a birther.  nuff said.

He has a complete  inability to discern.

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Re: The Benghazi Testamonies
« Reply #140 on: May 20, 2013, 09:59:49 AM »
a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.



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No.

This demonstrates your complete inability to comprehend and or discern anything.

YOU ARE SIMPLY A PRODUCT OF THE SPIN MACHINE

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« Reply #141 on: May 20, 2013, 09:59:55 AM »
He can't.  this guy is a birther.  nuff said.

He has a complete  inability to discern.

The IRS forcibly suprressed the voices of the Tea Party and now the DOJ is taking tyrannical steps to stop journalists from reporting on the obama admn.  

What do you call that?

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« Reply #142 on: May 20, 2013, 10:26:07 AM »
The IRS forcibly suprressed the voices of the Tea Party and now the DOJ is taking tyrannical steps to stop journalists from reporting on the obama admn.  

What do you call that?

no they didn't dipshit

no application was denied 501c4 status and certainly no ones voice for suppressed and most definitely no one was forcibly suppressed as it would in any other example of what we know as a dictatorship

you need to face the fact that you are mentally ill

no joke

get some help

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Re: The Benghazi Testamonies
« Reply #143 on: May 20, 2013, 10:26:48 AM »
He can't.  this guy is a birther.  nuff said.

He has a complete  inability to discern.

not just a "birther"

he clearly believes things that are demonstrably false

the guy has mental health issues

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Re: The Benghazi Testamonies
« Reply #144 on: May 20, 2013, 10:27:36 AM »
no they didn't dipshit

no application was denied 501c4 status and certainly no ones voice for suppressed and most definitely no one was forcibly suppressed as it would in any other example of what we know as a dictatorship

you need to face the fact that you are mentally ill

no joke

get some help

Hey dipshit - they supressed them long enough so that they could not organize for the election.  Being a liberal panti waist always crying about voter surpression - you should be upset over the obama crime wave.  

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« Reply #145 on: May 20, 2013, 10:28:11 AM »
not just a "birther"

he clearly believes things that are demonstrably false

the guy has mental health issues

LOL - coming from the guy who thought GW was a lib   ::)  ::)

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« Reply #146 on: May 20, 2013, 10:32:47 AM »
Hey dipshit - they supressed them long enough so that they could not organize for the election.  Being a liberal panti waist always crying about voter surpression - you should be upset over the obama crime wave.  

again - completely FALSE

no group was stopped from speaking or in any way communicating their message

no Teabag vote was suppressed, no Teabag message was suppressed and certainly no one was violently or lethally suppressed as is common in dictatorships

btw - no dictorships voluntarily investigate and publicy apologize for nonsense like this IRS thing (and certainly not while fully in power)

again, the best thing you can do for yourself is take a step or two back and realize that you have a serious mental health problem


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Re: The Benghazi Testamonies
« Reply #147 on: May 20, 2013, 10:33:27 AM »
The IRS forcibly suprressed the voices of the Tea Party and now the DOJ is taking tyrannical steps to stop journalists from reporting on the obama admn.  

What do you call that?

I don't call it fascism.  Nor do i claim we are a Fascist state or commy or what ever loony bull shit blabber that commonly runs out of your mouth.

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Re: The Benghazi Testamonies
« Reply #148 on: May 20, 2013, 10:34:04 AM »


again, the best thing you can do for yourself is take a step or two back and realize that you have a serious mental health problem



Seriously, please do 333333

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Re: The Benghazi Testamonies
« Reply #149 on: May 20, 2013, 10:36:24 AM »
I don't call it fascism.  Nor do i claim we are a Fascist state or commy or what ever loony bull shit blabber that commonly runs out of your mouth.

Then what the fuck do you call it?