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Benghazi reality.
« on: May 13, 2013, 07:01:41 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2013, 07:18:36 AM »
http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/david/gates-benghazi-obsessed-republicans-have-car


pretty much sums up the retardation.


You need to change the title.

The word "Reality" will turn off the rightwing nutjobs.

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« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2013, 09:37:17 AM »
Stop.  Do not take this from them.  They need something to whine about Obama for.

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« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2013, 10:29:19 AM »
Bump for the right wingers on here? Why is it that when presented with counter-information the threads are empty while a thread about Obama being a Kenyan is discussed like it is actually worthy of discussion.

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« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2013, 10:36:19 AM »
http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/david/gates-benghazi-obsessed-republicans-have-car


pretty much sums up the retardation.

Hicks who was there on the ground testified otherwise and more are coming forward.

Additionally - gates is full of shit since they did not know at the time they gave the stand down order how long the attack was going to last.

But for the 2 SEALS all 40 would have been killed and that ghetto commuinist sewer rat would have been sleeping dreaming o chooming w Jay z the next day./ 

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« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2013, 10:48:48 AM »
Hicks who was there on the ground testified otherwise and more are coming forward.

Additionally - gates is full of shit since they did not know at the time they gave the stand down order how long the attack was going to last.

But for the 2 SEALS all 40 would have been killed and that ghetto commuinist sewer rat would have been sleeping dreaming o chooming w Jay z the next day./ 

Hicks did not testify otherwise, post the quote liar.

no one gave a stand down order, jesus.

life goes on.more people die in the fake wars then that daily you are frantically making this an issue.

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« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2013, 10:52:59 AM »
Hicks did not testify otherwise, post the quote liar.

no one gave a stand down order, jesus.

life goes on.more people die in the fake wars then that daily you are frantically making this an issue.

Reality, facts and logic do not apply to whiners.

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« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2013, 12:00:10 PM »
http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/david/gates-benghazi-obsessed-republicans-have-car


pretty much sums up the retardation.

Absurd.  He is so full of crap.  We have service members, including SEALs and special ops folks all over the friggin Middle East.  They are ready to fly on notice of an hour or less.  Of course we could have gotten help to those defenseless Americans.   

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« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2013, 12:01:59 PM »
Absurd.  He is so full of crap.  We have service members, including SEALs and special ops folks all over the friggin Middle East.  They are ready to fly on notice of an hour or less.  Of course we could have gotten help to those defenseless Americans.   

They had no idea how long the attack was going to last and sent no one at all. 

They didnt even TRY and but for the two SEALs, all 40 would have been dead.

Obama deserves jail for life over this. 

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« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2013, 12:02:47 PM »
Hicks did not testify otherwise, post the quote liar.

no one gave a stand down order, jesus.

life goes on.more people die in the fake wars then that daily you are frantically making this an issue.

O Rly?  How do you spin this?



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« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2013, 12:04:49 PM »
They had no idea how long the attack was going to last and sent no one at all. 

They didnt even TRY and but for the two SEALs, all 40 would have been dead.

Obama deserves jail for life over this. 

I agree with your first point.  They should have sent help.  The military's job is to go into harm's way, especially if they going to protect defenseless Americans. 

I'm not on the impeachment or jail bandwagon yet. 

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« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2013, 12:38:12 PM »
O Rly?  How do you spin this?




he is talking about the airport, not the embassy you nitwit ,how can you not understand what is said?

No were did it indicate Obama had involvement.

What is there to spin?

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« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2013, 12:40:08 PM »
I agree with your first point.  They should have sent help.  The military's job is to go into harm's way, especially if they going to protect defenseless Americans. 

I'm not on the impeachment or jail bandwagon yet. 

what world do you live in? the military does not function like this, they had little to no intelligence, risking more lives for the lives of a few when you don't have any idea of what may occur, the severity and numerous other variables seems stupid. How many military rescues were there in the bush era, how many beach bum?

I think this man knows more about the military then you.

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« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2013, 12:47:06 PM »
Impeach.  WTF is there any other conversatoin going on?????????????

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« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2013, 12:49:02 PM »
I'm not on the impeachment or jail bandwagon yet. 

How can you not be?  I dont  get it.  7 hours notice and obama was watching on closed-circuit?  And blaming it on a video? 

Impeaching a prez over hiding a BJ, but this isn't worthy?  I dont get it? ???

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« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2013, 12:49:49 PM »
he is talking about the airport, not the embassy you nitwit ,how can you not understand what is said?

No were did it indicate Obama had involvement.

What is there to spin?

You said no stand down order was given.  He just confirmed the order was given.  

I never said Obama gave the order.  We don't know that yet.  

And they were on their way to Benghazi.  

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« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2013, 12:52:53 PM »
what world do you live in? the military does not function like this, they had little to no intelligence, risking more lives for the lives of a few when you don't have any idea of what may occur, the severity and numerous other variables seems stupid. How many military rescues were there in the bush era, how many beach bum?

I think this man knows more about the military then you.

BS.  Like I said, we have people all over the ME.  They had no idea whether the attack would last one hour or twenty-four hours.  Every operation involving hostile fire puts lives in danger, and the men and women who serve are willing to put themselves in harm's way to protect Americans. 

I have no idea how many military rescues there were in the Bush era.  What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?? 

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« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2013, 12:53:48 PM »
How can you not be?  I dont  get it.  7 hours notice and obama was watching on closed-circuit?  And blaming it on a video? 

Impeaching a prez over hiding a BJ, but this isn't worthy?  I dont get it? ???

We don't know Obama's involvement.  We also don't know all the facts. 

What does Clinton have to do with this? 

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« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2013, 01:05:15 PM »
BS.  Like I said, we have people all over the ME.  They had no idea whether the attack would last one hour or twenty-four hours.  Every operation involving hostile fire puts lives in danger, and the men and women who serve are willing to put themselves in harm's way to protect Americans. 

I have no idea how many military rescues there were in the Bush era.  What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?? 
 


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Former Secretary of Defense Robert Gates forcefully defended the Obama administration on Sunday against charges that it did not do enough to prevent the tragedy in Benghazi, telling CBS' "Face the Nation" that some critics of the administration have a "cartoonish impression of military capabilities and military forces."

Gates, a Republican who was appointed by then-President George W. Bush in 2006 and agreed to stay through more than two years of President Obama's first term, repeatedly declined to criticize the policymakers who devised a response to the September 2012 attack on a U.S. diplomatic facility in Benghazi, Libya, that left four Americans dead, including the U.S. Ambassador to Libya, Chris Stevens.

"Frankly, had I been in the job at the time, I think my decisions would have been just as theirs were," said Gates, now the chancellor of the College of William and Mary.

"We don't have a ready force standing by in the Middle East, and so getting somebody there in a timely way would have been very difficult, if not impossible." he explained.

Suggestions that we could have flown a fighter jet over the attackers to "scare them with the noise or something," Gates said, ignored the "number of surface to air missiles that have disappeared from [former Libyan leader] Qaddafi's arsenals."

"I would not have approved sending an aircraft, a single aircraft, over Benghazi under those circumstances," he said.

Another suggestion posed by some critics of the administration, to, as Gates said, "send some small number of special forces or other troops in without knowing what the environment is, without knowing what the threat is, without having any intelligence in terms of what is actually going on on the ground, would have been very dangerous."

"It's sort of a cartoonish impression of military capabilities and military forces," he said. "The one thing that our forces are noted for is planning and preparation before we send people in harm's way, and there just wasn't time to do that."

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« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2013, 01:11:42 PM »
We don't know Obama's involvement.  We also don't know all the facts. 

What does Clinton have to do with this? 

I think obama should be impeached for allowing this to happen, and leading the cheap cover-up of the death of brave americans.

Clinton, we'll find out her role once we get obama on the stand.

I dislike repubs like mccain and graham that don't think obama should be impeached.  Their kneepadding knows no bounds.

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« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2013, 01:13:24 PM »
I think obama should be impeached for allowing this to happen, and leading the cheap cover-up of the death of brave americans.

Clinton, we'll find out her role once we get obama on the stand.

I dislike repubs like mccain and graham that don't think obama should be impeached.  Their kneepadding knows no bounds.


Impeach before the facts come in.  Shocking. 

You're talking about kneepadding?  LOL! 

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« Reply #21 on: May 13, 2013, 01:15:31 PM »
Impeach before the facts come in.  Shocking. 

You're talking about kneepadding?  LOL! 

I'm talking about impeachment.  Obama knew.  The coverup with right from the white house.

I'm a little shocked, too lol, that I'm accusing repubs of kneepadding and calling for impeachment while they're all "well, we dont know, let's not be rash, let's all have some cookies and let this issue fall to the wayside..."

The fact mcaain scoffed at impeachment - sickens me.  I just hope some 2016 hopefuls step up and use the "i" word soon.

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« Reply #22 on: May 13, 2013, 02:35:05 PM »
You said no stand down order was given.  He just confirmed the order was given.  

I never said Obama gave the order.  We don't know that yet.  

And they were on their way to Benghazi.  

not for an extraction as per the topic, you are circumventing the central argument. No one was ready to go in to help them, fight with them, remove them, thus no stand down was given. There would be no point in securing the airport as they didn't have enough info to follow the best course of action.

There is nothing in this testimony, nothing, so they didn't secure the airport, it wouldn't have made a single good fuck, it's a side show topic that is trying to pin the tail on the donkey, throwin darts hoping they stick, they don't.

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« Reply #23 on: May 13, 2013, 02:58:03 PM »
not for an extraction as per the topic, you are circumventing the central argument. No one was ready to go in to help them, fight with them, remove them, thus no stand down was given. There would be no point in securing the airport as they didn't have enough info to follow the best course of action.

There is nothing in this testimony, nothing, so they didn't secure the airport, it wouldn't have made a single good fuck, it's a side show topic that is trying to pin the tail on the donkey, throwin darts hoping they stick, they don't.

Hicks specifically said troops were ready to board a plane for Benghazi and were told not to board.  So yes, service members were ready to go and remove them. 

We don't know whether they would have arrived in time or whether they would have saved any lives.  We'll never know.  But we should have tried.  We should have not left them unprotected in the first place, and we should not have left them to endure a seven-hour attack.  They were civilians.  What we did to those people is unconscionable.  And this cuts directly against Obama's claim before the election that he gave an order to do everything possible to protect our people.  He did not. 

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« Reply #24 on: May 13, 2013, 03:14:31 PM »
Hicks specifically said troops were ready to board a plane for Benghazi and were told not to board.  So yes, service members were ready to go and remove them. 

We don't know whether they would have arrived in time or whether they would have saved any lives.  We'll never know.  But we should have tried.  We should have not left them unprotected in the first place, and we should not have left them to endure a seven-hour attack.  They were civilians.  What we did to those people is unconscionable.  And this cuts directly against Obama's claim before the election that he gave an order to do everything possible to protect our people.  He did not. 

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http://thinkprogress.org/security/2013/05/08/1982151/witnesses-debunk-benghazi/

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One of the most shocking reveals in the lead-up to today’s hearing was that a team of Special Forces in Tripoli were told not to deploy to Benghazi during the attack. That decision has led to an uproar on the right, including claims of dereliction of duty towards Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman Gen. Martin Dempsey for not taking actions that could have saved lives.
During questioning, Hicks confirmed that the team was ready to be deployed — not to join the fighting at the CIA annex — but “to secure the airport for the withdrawal of our personnel from Benghazi after the mortar attack.” Hicks also confirmed that it was the second such team to be readied for deployment, with the first having proceeded to Benghazi earlier. Despite the second team not deploying, the staff was all evacuated first to Tripoli, then to Germany, within 18 hours of the attack taking place
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