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 Oswaldo Baptista Fadda



Oswaldo Baptista Fadda (January 15, 1921 - April 1, 2005) son of an immigrant Italian family who moved to Brazil in the early 1900's was a practitioner of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, reaching the rank of "nono grau", a 9th Dan Red Belt. He is known for being one of the highest ranked non-Gracie black belts and also for teaching students from the poorer areas of Rio de Janeiro, where jiu-jitsu was regarded as a upper-class sport. Fadda's lineage, the most prominent second to Carlos Gracie lineage, still survives through his links with today's teams such as Nova União, Grappling Fight Team,as well as Deo Jiu-Jitsu (Deoclecio Paulo) and Equipe Mestre Wilson Jiu-Jitsu (Wilson Pereira Mattos).

Fadda was born in Bento Ribeiro, a suburb in the north of Rio de Janeiro. At the age of seventeen, while in the Brazilian Marines he began to study Jiu Jitsu under Luis França, a black belt under Mitsuyo Maeda. Maeda was a expert judoka with direct lineage to the founder of judo, Kano Jigoro, who had travelled around the world as a prize fighter while also teaching the locals self defence techniques. After settling in Belém in 1917, Maeda had continued to teach Jiu Jitsu to a select group of students (including França and Carlos Gracie).

By 1942, Gracie Jiu-Jitsu was becoming well known in Brazil, although the prices of tuition were too high for most residents of Rio. Fadda had received his own black belt from França and soon started teaching Jiu Jitsu free of charge in unorthodox locations such as public parks and beaches, often without the aid of crash mats, aiming to spread the art of jiu-jitsu to the poorer folk. Fadda also saw jiu-jitsu as a way to help people with physical or mental disabilities, especially the city's numerous polio victims. With no real income from his teaching he was forced to advertise within the obituary section of the local newspaper.

Despite being regarded by the Gracie family as an outcast, Fadda managed to open his own academy on the outskirts of Rio on January 27, 1950.He and his students began specialising in the use of foot-locks, an often ignored part of the jiu-jitsu curriculum. The next year,Fadda felt confident that his school was ready for the next step and issued a challenge to the Gracie’s through the media: "We wish to challenge the Gracie’s, we respect them like the formidable adversaries they are but we do not fear them. We have 20 pupils ready for the dispute".


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Who was Master Fadda?
Professor Oswaldo Baptista Fadda was born, lived and died in Rio, Brazil. A humble man and an expert of the art of Jiu-Jitsu as well as a pioneer taking the “soft art” to the common people Brazil. When he was 17 years of age he enlisted in the Marines serving in the Brazilian Navy. It was there where he was exposed to Jiu-Jitsu for the first time. Oswaldo Fadda then started to train in Jiu-Jitsu with Professor Luis França a direct student and part of a very privileged small group of pupils of Mitsuyo Maeda also known as Conde Koma, the original introducer of Jiu-Jitsu in Brazil, in 1917. Mitsuyo Maeda had moved to Brazil to spread Jigaro Kano's Judo across the world and found himself teaching Jiu-Jitsu in the city of Belém, the state of Pará along side of Carlos Gracie.

After years studying under Professor Luis França, Fadda turned to helping and teaching the under privileged in the suburbs of Rio, an act never seen or heard of back then as Jiu-Jitsu was for the privileged few and those with money. With deep idealism, he taught and demonstrated, with its pupils, the techniques of Jiu-Jitsu in slum quarters, public squares, beaches, circuses, patios of churches and clubs, aiming at to the masses and exposing for the first time the practical skills and technique to all.
Fadda's older brother Humberto Fadda, and his grandson, Helio Fadda have followed in his footsteps, the Fadda Academy did not have the same luck of the Gracie family. The Academy of Bento Ribeiro no longer belonged to the family since the early 1980's. Fadda and Cascagrossa branch closed its doors in 1990.

Keeping the Fadda name alive today are his grandsons, Renan and Marcos and other noteable students that earned the earned and had the privelage to train under Fadda. These include Deoclecio Paulo Sebastiao Ricardo Alexandre Chandu, Orivaldo Silva, Geraldo Flores, Roberto Soares, Chasco and Lando and Wilson Mattos.


Master Fadda died aged 84 on April 1st 2005 for a bacterial pneumonia aggravated from Alzheimer's. Unlike the Gracie's, Fadda did not transform his family into an army of fighters, but his legacy lives on in his students in various academies all over Brazil. These include Jacare, Vitor "Shaolin" Ribeiro, BJ Penn, Robson Moura, Leonardo Santos, Jose Aldo and the world champion Rodolfo Vieira Academy (GFT) grappling fighting team. Alexander Wendell co-founder of the Nova Uniao



Oswaldo Fadda was a great fighter and a great man who had as his mission in life to put in the service of his community, his knowledge of jiu-jitsu. His personal interest, the fame of his name was put into the background compared to the poor community in the suburbs of Rio, where he was born. Oswaldo Fadda was a good man, earnest and humble, a true silent warrior. Obrigado Mestre Fadda.

Another important activity in which is Fadda pioneered, was the therapeutic recovery, through the teaching of Jiu-Jitsu as supportive therapy to medical treatment. This included people with physical and mental abnormalities, motor paralysis of children affected by polio victims. In this area, Fadda had worked miracles among the many students of which he taught, including "Torpedo", black belt Jiu-Jitsu fighter missing both legs from the knees down.

Teaching in a poorer community, and not being able to generate a steady form of income from his teaching, he was forced to place an advert for his academy in the obituary section of the local newspaper. The object was to attract the attention of the media, as well as a ways to challenge the powerful Jiu-Jitsu stronghold of the Gracie family.

Fadda Jiu-Jitsu Wins Challenge
The Great Challenge
In 1954, Master Fadda released the advert in the "O Globo" and "Diario dà Noite" and issued the following challenge/statement:

"We wish to challenge the Gracies, we respect them like the formidable adversaries they are but we do not fear them. We have 20 pupils ready for the dispute"

Helio Gracie took on the challenge, saying he was impressed by the cavalry of Oswaldo Fadda. The challenge took place within the Gracie Academy in the city of Rio De Janeiro. Fadda's team emerged victorious making good use of their knowledge of leglock and footlocks, in which the Gracie's were lacking.

José Guimarães one of Fadda's pupils choked Gracie's star pupil "Leonidas" unconscious. Oswaldo himself became the first man to beat Hélio in competition. After the challenge, Fadda gave an interview for the "Revista

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« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2013, 08:41:07 AM »
Great story. When there were only three jui jitsu schools in America leg locks were seldom talked about and as far as I know wasn't taught.

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« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2013, 08:47:15 AM »
Great story. When there were only three jui jitsu schools in America leg locks were seldom talked about and as far as I know wasn't taught.
'Oswaldo Fadda’s team won, making better use of their footlock knowledge, something the Gracie’s lacked and frowned upon ever since, calling it “suburban technique” (Técnica de Suburbano). '

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« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2013, 08:48:59 AM »
Hardly surprising he's a good grappler, dude has three arms.

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« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2013, 08:59:56 AM »
Master Fadda is a very well respected founding father in the world of Brazilian JiuJitsu.

While the Gracie's are still the gold standard when it comes to JiuJitsu training (in my opinion), their system is not the only system worthy of mention.

There are many techniques that I believe are very effective in JiuJitsu that the Gracie's are not strong proponents of.

For instance, even though I still mainly go to Renzo's academy for my training, everyone in JiuJitsu knows that the best JiuJitsu practitioner in the East coast, if not the entire USA is Marcelo Garcia. He is part of Alliance JiuJitsu and is by far the most talented guy I've seen in the USA (his record speaks for itself). Every now and then, I go to Marcelo's gym to roll with his team, as I find that their approach to the basics is second to none. Marcelo is a bread & butter type of practitioner and his submission approaches are nothing too fancy or complicated (north/south, rear naked, arm bars, ankle locks etc.), but they are extremely effective due to the attention to detail his team has.

Another point of contention that I get shit for is that I am not a huge fan of the Gi. While traditional JiuJitsu pushes for the presence of the Gi, I could honestly do without it, since I am more of a fan of practicality when it comes to grappling (I prefer training that prepares me for a street fight versus a controlled tournament). This is also a reason why I like to often times visit Marcelo's academy, since he does a 50/50 approach to training, by doing an equal amount of no-gi and gi sessions all week.

The Gi issue is also why I like to every now and then travel to LA to roll with Tenth Planet guys. Those guys don't subscribe to the Gi principle and I find that their rubber guard is very effective against other systems of JiuJitsu.

The worst thing one can do when practicing any martial art is to assume that any one approach is the perfect approach to combat. A mixture of training principles yields the most complete fighter, both capable of engaging tournament combat, as well as street combat. That's why more and more academies now have MMA classes (incorporating everything from BJJ, Muay Thai, Boxing, Wrestling and even Sambo).

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« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2013, 09:37:07 AM »

For instance, even though I still mainly go to Renzo's academy for my training, everyone in JiuJitsu knows that the best JiuJitsu practitioner in the East coast, if not the entire USA is Marcelo Garcia. He is part of Alliance JiuJitsu and is by far the most talented guy I've seen in the USA (his record speaks for itself). Every now and then, I go to Marcelo's gym to roll with his team, as I find that their approach to the basics is second to none. Marcelo is a bread & butter type of practitioner and his submission approaches are nothing too fancy or complicated (north/south, rear naked, arm bars, ankle locks etc.), but they are extremely effective due to the attention to detail his team has.

Another point of contention that I get shit for is that I am not a huge fan of the Gi. While traditional JiuJitsu pushes for the presence of the Gi, I could honestly do without it, since I am more of a fan of practicality when it comes to grappling (I prefer training that prepares me for a street fight versus a controlled tournament). This is also a reason why I like to often times visit Marcelo's academy, since he does a 50/50 approach to training, by doing an equal amount of no-gi and gi sessions all week.


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who do you think wins between a prime Arona and Garcia in ADCC?

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« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2013, 09:41:58 AM »
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With no real income from his teaching he was forced to advertise within the obituary section of the local newspaper.

Hardcore right there.  Probably with a Getbig style heading like "Think You Are Man Enough?  So Did These Other People"

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« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2013, 09:44:29 AM »
A mixture of training principles yields the most complete fighter, both capable of engaging tournament combat, as well as street combat. That's why more and more academies now have MMA classes (incorporating everything from BJJ, Muay Thai, Boxing, Wrestling and even Sambo).


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i think that has more to do with the UFC success

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« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2013, 11:35:54 AM »
who do you think wins between a prime Arona and Garcia in ADCC?

Based on skillset, they are both amazing JiuJitsu practitioners. By way of records in BJJ tournaments, Garcia is better ranked than Arona (as Garcia has won the most ADCC tournaments in its history and has more Brazilian national championships, mundials, pan ams titles than Arona etc.)

In a MMA fight (UFC, Pride or even a street fight), Arona would win, because he is a more complete fighter by way of his striking. He is also in another weight class, so that can prove to be a nightmare for Garcia.

In a BJJ tournament (ADCC style), Garcia would defeat Arona. With equal weight/height, Garcia would beat him 9 times out of 10.

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« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2013, 11:49:42 AM »
  Great thread. Thanks. I will be at the Worlds (Mundials) in Long Beach this month.


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« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2013, 11:51:03 AM »
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« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2013, 11:59:29 AM »
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« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2013, 12:05:02 PM »
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Wasn't Rolls the best of all of them? he died young

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« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2013, 12:06:15 PM »
  Yes   Rolls was the king of the family


  when he died, Rickson became the new king

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« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2013, 04:54:28 PM »
Based on skillset, they are both amazing JiuJitsu practitioners. By way of records in BJJ tournaments, Garcia is better ranked than Arona (as Garcia has won the most ADCC tournaments in its history and has more Brazilian national championships, mundials, pan ams titles than Arona etc.)

In a MMA fight (UFC, Pride or even a street fight), Arona would win, because he is a more complete fighter by way of his striking. He is also in another weight class, so that can prove to be a nightmare for Garcia.

In a BJJ tournament (ADCC style), Garcia would defeat Arona. With equal weight/height, Garcia would beat him 9 times out of 10.

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interesting post most predictions ive read would have Arona wrestlefuck Garcia in ADCC

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« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2013, 05:27:38 PM »
  I think Arona might be too big and strong for Marcelo     he would use his Wrestling to control Garcia for points win


  I think pound for pound, Marcelo might just be the best of all time     but some one with less skill but more size can easily beat him    ala Jacare (Kimura) and Robert (Brabo)



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« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2013, 05:46:17 PM »
interesting post most predictions ive read would have Arona wrestlefuck Garcia in ADCC

Based on Arona's size and strength alone, it would be a very difficult match.

Like Arce said, pound-for-pound, I would pick Marcelo as the all-time best. I've rolled with the man and he is a fucking magician on the mat.

Like I said, in an MMA or street fight, Arona would win hands down. In a BJJ match, with size and strength being equal, Marcelo would win. Marcelo's BJJ is unlike anything I've ever seen or experienced.

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« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2013, 05:49:31 PM »
  Yeah   Marcelo has abused people that are super good     like they did not even matter


  the only time I see him losing is to bigger guys    Robert D., Jacare, Roger G.,


  rarely do guys his size beat him     I remember Cameron E. did    and I think Pablo P.    but these were by slim points     Marcelo usually finishes people    which makes the praise I give him even greater

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« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2013, 06:14:40 PM »
 Yeah   Marcelo has abused people that are super good     like they did not even matter


  the only time I see him losing is to bigger guys    Robert D., Jacare, Roger G.,


  rarely do guys his size beat him     I remember Cameron E. did    and I think Pablo P.    but these were by slim points     Marcelo usually finishes people    which makes the praise I give him even greater

I've trained with Renzo for close to a decade now and the only man in NYC that has beaten him in straight JiuJitsu matches is Marcelo. Marcelo has even beaten most of our black belts with ease.

Not to mention that aside from the Gracie Academy, here in New York, we have a few other high ranking BJJ black belts like Vitor Shaolin Ribeiro and Marcelo put Shaolin to sleep in less than 20 seconds. He took a 4x BJJ world champion black belt and put him to sleep like you would a random person first walking into a BJJ academy for his first day of training.



Like I said, I've sparred with the who's who of BJJ in the NYC and Marcelo is on a different dimension.

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« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2013, 06:15:52 PM »
 Yeah   Marcelo has abused people that are super good     like they did not even matter


  the only time I see him losing is to bigger guys    Robert D., Jacare, Roger G.,


  rarely do guys his size beat him     I remember Cameron E. did    and I think Pablo P.    but these were by slim points     Marcelo usually finishes people    which makes the praise I give him even greater
terere beat garcia

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« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2013, 06:16:47 PM »
also estima

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« Reply #21 on: May 13, 2013, 06:17:16 PM »
  He did sub Marcelo, but Marcelo was not in his prime yet     

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« Reply #22 on: May 14, 2013, 09:26:05 AM »
I've trained with Renzo for close to a decade now and the only man in NYC that has beaten him in straight JiuJitsu matches is Marcelo. Marcelo has even beaten most of our black belts with ease.

Not to mention that aside from the Gracie Academy, here in New York, we have a few other high ranking BJJ black belts like Vitor Shaolin Ribeiro and Marcelo put Shaolin to sleep in less than 20 seconds. He took a 4x BJJ world champion black belt and put him to sleep like you would a random person first walking into a BJJ academy for his first day of training.



Like I said, I've sparred with the who's who of BJJ in the NYC and Marcelo is on a different dimension.

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Does he even lift?

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« Reply #23 on: May 14, 2013, 02:21:30 PM »
  Man, he owned poor Shao Lin

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