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« Reply #125 on: November 25, 2013, 08:22:58 PM »

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« Reply #126 on: November 25, 2013, 08:24:51 PM »

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« Reply #127 on: November 29, 2013, 03:36:01 PM »

Lack of integrity here?

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« Reply #128 on: December 02, 2013, 03:33:53 PM »

I'd say the president wins this one hands down.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2013/dec/02/2013-lie-year-finalists-vote-readers-poll/
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« Reply #129 on: December 06, 2013, 10:14:09 AM »

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This is such an inconsequential thing, why lie?

Seriously this president and admin are fucking pathlogical liars, it seems they lie just for the sake of lying...


http://news.yahoo.com/white-house-reverses-course--says-obama-lived-with-kenyan-uncle-202020835.html

The White House acknowledged Thursday that President Barack Obama lived briefly years ago with a Kenyan uncle previously targeted for deportation — after initially insisting there was no evidence they had ever met.

Why the stark turnaround? “Nobody spoke to the president” when the question first arose in 2011, press secretary Jay Carney told reporters at his daily briefing.

Instead, staff appear to have relied on one of the president’s autobiographical books.

“Back when this arose, folks looked at the record, including the president's book, and there was no evidence that they had met, there was — and that was what was conveyed,” Carney explained.


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« Reply #130 on: December 13, 2013, 10:07:39 AM »

Obama's 'If You Like Your Plan You Can Keep It' Promise Named 'Lie of the Year'
By Noel Sheppard | December 12, 2013

Conservatives across the fruited plain are likely going to be shocked by this - and liberals extremely angered! - but the fact-checking website PolitiFact on Thursday named President Obama's "If you like your health care plan, you can keep it" promise the Lie of the Year.

Such was announced on CNN's The Lead (video follows with transcribed highlights and commentary):

With a drum roll going, host Jake Tapper said, “So here it is, by popular demand, the number one Lie of the Year, based on something the President first said in 2009, and then updated in 2013.”

A video clip of President Obama was then played with him saying, “If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan.”

Another clip was aired with Obama saying more recently, “What we said was you could keep it if it hasn’t changed since the law's passed.”

“So this was a runaway favorite with readers,” Tapper said. “59 percent voted for this as Lie of the Year.”

“Yeah, the editors of PolitiFact selected this because it had the most impact on the national debate,” replied PolitiFact editor Angie Drobnic Holan. “It’s something we first flagged back in 2009. We said this is partly right. The health care law does leave in place the existing health care system.”

“But it’s partly wrong,” she continued, “because we knew back then not everybody would be able to keep their health care plan, and this was the year that it was proved false as these cancellation letters went out at the end of the year.”

“So that upgrades it from theoretically possibly true/possibly false to Pants on Fire, a lie, the fact that it was implemented, and if you like your health plan, you can’t necessarily keep your health plan?” asked Tapper.

“Well, what happened was the President came out later and said, ‘Oh, we never said that. We said that if your plan hadn’t changed since the law was passed,’” Drobnic Holan replied. “We found 37 separate instances where he said clearly, with no caveats, that you can keep your plan. And that got the Pants on Fire rating, that excuse.”

Now, there's been some debate about which of Obama's statements - the initial one from 2009 or the absurd explanation recently - were really in contention for Lie of the Year.

The folks at PolitiFact Bias think PF is misrepresenting things a bit.

However, Drobnic Holan appeared to answer the concerns saying, "The original statement is partly accurate. The Lie of the Year is not the most wrong statement. It's the most significant impact. And then the excuse got the Pants on Fire overall."

"So, the lie about what he originally said is Lie of the Year?" asked Tapper.

"They're both Lie of the Year, because this is something that unfolded over a bunch of years," Drobnic Holan answered.

"So, this is wrapped up like a delicious chocolate peanut butter swirl," quipped Tapper.

"Yeah," Drobnic Halen responded, "it's something that we've been watching for many years."

I'm not sure that will satisfy the doubters, but it works for me as they were both whoppers that have indeed had a huge impact on the country.

Kudos for PF having the guts to call the President out in such a high profile way.

Let's see whether Obama's fans in the media report this dishonor.

Stay tuned.

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« Reply #131 on: December 16, 2013, 10:27:37 AM »

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« Reply #132 on: December 16, 2013, 10:34:05 AM »


"President Obama ended up with three of the most misleading claims of the year."  Only three??  They didn't include his collection of lies about what would happen if the sequester cuts took place.   
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« Reply #133 on: January 20, 2014, 11:56:16 AM »

Texas's Wendy Davis Admits Inconsistencies in Biography
Monday, 20 Jan 2014
By Melanie Batley

Wendy Davis, the Democratic candidate for governor of Texas, has admitted that a number of key details in her public personal narrative do not match up with the reality of the facts.

The Texas state senator who rose to national fame for her successful 13-hour filibuster against new abortion restrictions, acknowledged to The Dallas Morning News that there are some chronological errors and incomplete details in what she and her advisers have said about her life.

"My language should be tighter," she told the paper. "I'm learning about using broader, looser language. I need to be more focused on the detail."

Davis, who is running against Republican Attorney General Greg Abbott for the governorship, has repeatedly touted a personal story of having been a divorced teenage mother who lived in a trailer but ultimately fought her way to Harvard Law School.

She has pointed to her narrative as a testament to hard work and the American Dream, and her campaign has heavily relied on it to build support and boost fundraising.

It has now emerged that she was divorced at the age of 21, despite her claims during a recent hearing under oath that she was 19. Also, she lived only briefly in the family mobile home after she separated from her first husband before moving into an apartment with her daughter.

Meanwhile, her website says, "With the help of academic scholarships and student loans, Wendy not only became the first person in her family to earn a bachelor's degree but graduated first in her class and was accepted to Harvard Law School."

The paper points out that she has neglected to disclose that her second husband paid for the second two years of her undergraduate degree from Texas Christian University, as well as the full tuition for law school, and that she divorced him the day after the last payment was made.

It has also emerged that her ex-husband accused her in initial court filings of adultery and was awarded custody of their two daughters, and also that she first ran for city council in Fort Worth as a Republican.

Davis nonetheless defended the accuracy of her overall account as a young single mother who escaped poverty, earned an education and built a successful legal and political career through hard work and determination, according to The Morning News.

"Most people would identify with the fact that we tend to be defined by the struggles we came through than by the successes. And certainly for me that's true," she told the paper. "When I think about who I am and how it's reflected in the things I worked on, it comes from that place."

A former colleague and political supporter of Davis who declined to be named told The  Morning News, "Wendy is tremendously ambitious. She's going to find a way, and she's going to figure out a way to spin herself in a way that grabs at the heart strings. A lot of it isn't true about her, but that's just us who knew her. But she'd be a good governor."

Her ex-husband, Jeff Davis, said, "She got a break. Good things happen, opportunities open up. You take them; you get lucky. That's a better narrative than what they're trying to paint."

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/Davis-biography-inaccuracies-Texas/2014/01/20/id/547956#ixzz2qxyqX0PL
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« Reply #134 on: January 27, 2014, 01:14:16 PM »

Did he lie?

Secret abortion fees hidden in ObamaCare premiums, lawmakers say
Published January 27, 2014
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Insurance companies working under the Obamacare umbrella have secretly added a surcharge to cover the cost of abortions, an apparent violation of federal law that forbids the practice, congressional leaders charge.

Consumers signing up for insurance in an Obamacare exchange won't find a single sentence telling them that they will pay at least $1 a month to fund abortions.

"The president promised when the health care bill passed that it would not cover abortion. We knew that was an empty promise as the bill stipulated a $1 a month surcharge for plans that covered abortions," said Rep. Joe Pitts, R-Pa., who chairs the House's Energy and Commerce subcommittee on Health. "On top of that ... it's near impossible to decipher which plans include abortion and at what cost!"

To fix this, a House bill will be introduced this week to demand full disclosure and a separate itemized premium. It also will prohibit federal subsidies for Obamacare insurance plans that cover abortion. That bill, HR-7, or the "No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion Act," will be introduced by House Majority Leader Eric Cantor.

On Oct. 9, Rep. Chris Smith, R-NJ, introduced a bill on the disclosure issue, which now has been folded into the broader HR-7. Smith is co-chairman of the Bipartisan Congressional Pro-Life Caucus.

Aides with both Pitts and Smith have researched numerous Obamacare policies and have yet to find any mention of abortion.

"We can't find any insurance plans where this is disclosed," said Andrew Wimer, communications director for Pitts.

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« Reply #135 on: February 10, 2014, 01:20:17 PM »

Didn't he promise during his first campaign that donors and lobbyists would not be part his administration?

Obama taps top fundraisers, bundlers for ambassadorships
Published July 20, 2013
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Just six months into his second term, President Obama has nominated a slew of campaign donors and fundraisers for ambassadorships.

These nominations include major bundlers Denise Bauer and a Los Angeles entertainment attorney Crystal Nix Hines.

As of last month, Obama had given 32.2 percent of ambassadorships to political appointees -- almost identical to his first term rate and slightly higher than those of recent predecessors in the long-held tradition of presidents rewarding big-time financial supporters.

The number compares to 30.02 percent under George W. Bush, 27.82 percent under Bill Clinton and 31.30 percent under George H.W. Bush, according to the American Foreign Service Association.

The president has nominated 19 people for ambassadorships in the second term including at least eight bundlers, according to The Hill newspaper.

The 2011-2012 amounts range from $2.36 million by Bauer, chairwoman of the Women for Obama Finance, who would go to Belgium, to $477,000 from Hines, who would represent the United States at the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization, or UNESCO.

Other bundlers have been named to serve in Austria, Germany, Singapore, Spain, the Dominican Republic and the United Kingdom.

But much of the attention remains focused on who will get two of the remaining top posts -- France and Japan.

According to The Hill, Democratic National Committee National Finance Chairwoman Jane Stetson, who raised $2.43 million for Obama, is in line for the coveted Paris post, which would knock out Vogue editor-in-chief Anne Wintour, who raised $2.68 million and purportedly wanted either the London or Paris diplomatic positions.

Beyond Wintour, the most talked about potential ambassadorship is Caroline Kennedy to Japan.

Kennedy, daughter of President Kennedy, certainly has the political pedigree and ranks among the president’s biggest fundraisers and political supporters. However, critics argue that her lack of experience in elected office makes her a risky choice as Japan remains a crucial ally in trying to maintain stability in the Korean Peninsula.

Still, Dartmouth government professor Jennifer Lind argues Kennedy’s stature give her extraordinary access to the president and that her father’s “unconventional ” decision in the 1960s to appoint Harvard professor Edwin O. Reischauer to the Tokyo post “helped knit … two countries once dismissed as impossible allies.”

The Foreign Service union, while not directly criticizing Kennedy or Obama, told FoxNews.com this spring that it does not support such appointments and that the rate of political appointees to ambassadorships for Japan and major European countries is as high as 85 percent.

“The sale of ambassadorships and rewards for political support basically suggests we really don’t value diplomacy,” said then-union President Susan Johnson.

Other major Obama bundlers being considered by the president in his second term include retired JP Morgan executive Azita Raji, who reportedly raised $3.15 million and is Obama’s top pick for ambassador to Switzerland.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/07/20/obama-taps-top-fundraisers-bundlers-for-ambassadorships/#ixzz2bDltaLNF

Obama far outpaces predecessors in appointing donors to foreign posts
Published February 10, 2014
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President Obama has taken the art of naming donors and other politically connected chums as ambassadors to a new level, despite pledging in 2008 to shake up Washington's back-scratching ways.

A string of gaffes by some of his recent nominees has thrust the Washington practice of appointing donors to foreign posts back into the spotlight. The administration faced difficult questions from the press last week, for instance, after Obama's nominee to Argentina admitted he'd never been there.

But a look back at how Obama's appointments stack up to those of his predecessors shows it's not just business as usual -- if anything, the current president is using diplomatic gigs to reward bundlers and contributors seemingly more than ever.

The American Foreign Service Association, which tracks ambassadorial appointments, has found that in Obama's second term, more than 53 percent of these appointments were political. Less than half have come from the career Foreign Service pool.

"Obama is pushing the envelope," Christian Whiton, former State Department adviser in the George W. Bush administration, told Fox News.

The United States is just about the only major democracy that still uses diplomatic posts to routinely reward political friends. Historically, less than a third of these appointments have been political in nature. Under former President Bill Clinton, 28 percent were political; under former President George W. Bush, that number was 30 percent.

Under Obama, the number has climbed to 37 percent overall. By the time he leaves office, it could well be higher.

Though this is a bipartisan practice, the performance during confirmation hearings of some of Obama's latest picks has raised concerns that the United States may be sending the wrong message abroad.

"Sending donors to be ambassadors -- not that uncommon," Whiton said. "Sending them that have no idea what they're doing or about the regions they're going to, that is new."

The administration stresses that it's too early to say, especially based on scattered confirmation hearing performances, how these nominees would do in their jobs.

"I would encourage people to give those who have had tougher hearings a chance to go to their countries and see what their tenure will entail," State Department spokeswoman Jen Psaki said Friday. "And the judgment can't be made about how effective they'll be or how appreciated they'll be by the government until we have that happen."

She noted that many esteemed U.S. ambassadors have come from outside the Foreign Service career path, including former Vice President Walter Mondale in Japan, and Sargent Shriver in France.

But the question now is whether Obama's picks are coming into their jobs with little connection at all to the country they would represent.

Obama's nominee to Norway, George Tsunis, had a few cringe-worthy moments during his hearing last month. During the hearing, he at one point referred to Norway's president, though the country is a constitutional monarchy. He also downplayed the importance of the country's Progress Party but was sternly reminded by Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., that the party is part of the center-right coalition government there.

"I stand corrected," Tsunis responded.

Colleen Bradley Bell, a soap opera producer nominated for ambassador to Hungary, also recently struggled to answer what America's strategic interests are in that country.

The exchanges have riled foreign policy experts.

"The Obama administration's appointments suggest that the president isn't being honest when he says that diplomacy is important to him," Henri J. Barkey, Lehigh University professor and former State Department policy staffer, wrote in The Washington Post. "... it's illogical, and insulting, to presume that Norwegians are such wonderful and civilized people -- and hence unlikely to cause any problems with Washington -- that we can afford to send someone on a taxpayer-funded three-year junket to enjoy the fjords."

Some of the prime candidates for appointments, historically, have been bundlers -- people who gather sometimes hundreds of thousands of dollars in donations for the president.

A FoxNews.com review shows that Obama has appointed at least 44 of these so-called bundlers since taking office. That's almost as many as Bush appointed in his full two terms.

The positions awarded to these individuals have remained roughly consistent. Plush posts in western European countries, the Caribbean, and places like Singapore and Canada, often go to the politically connected. France, Great Britain, Germany and Italy are just a handful of the most sought-after jobs. The Japan post, too, is occasionally used to reward political supporters, including most recently Caroline Kennedy.

Tracking by The American Foreign Service Association shows that in some less-popular locations, the ambassador posts for decades have always gone to career diplomats. Armenia, Bangladesh and Mongolia, among others, since 1960 have never had a political donor appointed to serve there.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/02/10/obama-far-outpaces-predecessors-in-appointing-donors-to-foreign-posts/
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« Reply #136 on: February 10, 2014, 03:58:27 PM »

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/obama-thats-good-thing-president-i-can-do-whatever-i-want_778944.html


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« Reply #137 on: February 18, 2014, 03:35:28 PM »

So Joe Wilson was right after all.  Undecided

OBAMACARE RECRUITING ILLEGALS IN CALIFORNIA
by JOEL B. POLLAK 
14 Feb 2014

In 2009, Rep. Joe Wilson (R-SC) apologized profusely to the White House for shouting, "You lie!" as President Barack Obama told Congress that Obamacare would not cover illegal immigrants. Now it would appear that the White House owes Wilson an apology, as Covered California--the flagship of state Obamacare exchanges--is recruiting illegal ("undocumented") immigrants to sign up for the program, regardless of their eligibility.
The Covered California website includes a special page entitled: "No temas si eres indocumentado/a y quieres inscribir a tu familia en un seguro médico" ("Fear not if you are undocumented and want to enroll your family in health insurance"). The website goes on to explain that information shared with Obamacare cannot be shared with Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). It does not explicitly warn that illegal aliens are ineligible.

"According to the laws and implementing regulations," the website says, "the information provided by individuals for coverage can not be used for purposes other than ensuring the efficient functioning of the insurance market ( Covered California) or administration of the program, or to verify certain eligibility determinations including verification of the immigration status of these people."

As Bloomberg News notes, Latinos have been slow to sign up for Obamacare, partly because of problems with the Spanish-language version of the Obamacare website, and partly because some immigrant families are afraid of providing information to the government or using public assistance, among other factors. Covered California is devoting additional resources to recruiting more Latino enrollees before the deadline at the end of March.

Obamacare has been under greater pressure to produce impressive enrollment numbers as the program comes under more intense scrutiny from politicians and the public, providing a possible motive for recruiting illegal aliens to enroll. Earlier this week, the federal government announced that 3.3 million people had signed up nationwide, but that included people who had not yet paid, and actually represented a slowing rate of enrollment, with too few young people joining the program.

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« Reply #138 on: February 18, 2014, 03:40:16 PM »

No surprise - ghettothugbama is trying to collapse this country
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« Reply #139 on: February 18, 2014, 04:25:18 PM »

breitbart  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy the onion of the right  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

The headline declaring that “ObamaCare [is] Recruiting Illegal Immigrants” is absolutely, provably false. As is the content of the article that says in the opening paragraph that “Covered California–the flagship of state Obamacare exchanges–is recruiting illegal (“undocumented”) immigrants to sign up for the program, regardless of their eligibility.”

There is no truth whatsoever to that claim. But adhering to factual reporting has never been the mission of Fox News. It’s especially humorous that Joel Pollak, the BreitBrat author of the article, attempts to align his bogus assertions to Republican congressman Joe Wilson who, you may recall, shouted out “You lie,” during President Obama’s 2009 State of the Union speech when the President stated that the Affordable Care Act would not cover undocumented immigrants. Pollak believes that Wilson is due an apology based on his deeply misconstrued interpretation of a page on the Covered California website.

The shoddy news sleuthing by BreitBrat Pollak turned up a page that informed readers that they did not need to worry if they were “undocumented and want your family to enroll in health insurance. That was the spark that set fire to Pollak’s active imagination. Without wasting any effort on reading further or trying to understand the context, Pollak concluded that this was an attempt to enroll undocumented immigrants in ObamaCare, which the law explicitly prohibits. This is what the very first paragraph on the page actually said:


“According to the laws and implementing regulations, the information provided by individuals for coverage can not be used for purposes other than ensuring the efficient functioning of the insurance market (Covered California) or administration of the program, or to verify certain eligibility determinations including verification of the immigration status of these people.”

If Pollak had the comprehension skills to grasp this, he would have noticed two things: 1) The page is assuring applicants that the information they provide will not be shared with immigration agencies. And 2) That verification of immigration status will be a determinant condition of their eligibility.

The importance of the first item is to reassure people that an application will not result in an investigation or potential deportation. Many Latino families have mixed immigration statuses and they are sensitive to the possibility that their families could be separated. Consequently, they refrain from enrolling in benefits programs like ObamaCare. That means that many people who are actually citizens (i.e. children who were born here, or naturalized adults) would be deprived of services to which they are entitled because of their concern for other family members who may not be documented. This assurance allows them to apply without having to fear unrelated consequences.

The second item should be an assurance to bigots like Pollak that no undocumented immigrants would receive health care benefits under ObamaCare. It is an explicit declaration that citizenship is required for eligibility. And it is what makes Pollak’s assertion that illegal immigrants are being recruited regardless of their eligibility such a blatant lie.

It’s interesting to note that the Fox News Latino website does not have a story on this matter. Fox News Latino often takes positions that sharply contrast with those of the Fox News mothership. It is their way of trying to lure in the fastest growing demographic in the country without alienating them the way Fox News does. Although, there is a story that addresses the administration’s efforts to reach out to Latinos. And in that story they correctly point out the dilemma of mixed immigration status families who worry about separation, saying that “One big issue is that the law requires that those seeking coverage provide the immigration status of members of their household to determine eligibility.” That is what the page on Covered California is there for – to alleviate that concern.

It is remarkably dishonest and unethical to portray the information provided on Covered California as attempting to recruit undocumented immigrants to enroll in ObamaCare. Yet that is precisely what Breitbart and the Fox Nationalists did. And they did this despite the fact that the correct information was plainly in front of them on the same page. Therefore, it can only be assumed that they knew the truth and deliberately chose to ignore and/or distort it. But that’s the one thing that is not surprising about this. That is, in fact, standard operating procedure at Fox News.
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« Reply #140 on: February 18, 2014, 04:40:47 PM »

breitbart  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy the onion of the right  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

The headline declaring that “ObamaCare [is] Recruiting Illegal Immigrants” is absolutely, provably false. As is the content of the article that says in the opening paragraph that “Covered California–the flagship of state Obamacare exchanges–is recruiting illegal (“undocumented”) immigrants to sign up for the program, regardless of their eligibility.”

There is no truth whatsoever to that claim. But adhering to factual reporting has never been the mission of Fox News. It’s especially humorous that Joel Pollak, the BreitBrat author of the article, attempts to align his bogus assertions to Republican congressman Joe Wilson who, you may recall, shouted out “You lie,” during President Obama’s 2009 State of the Union speech when the President stated that the Affordable Care Act would not cover undocumented immigrants. Pollak believes that Wilson is due an apology based on his deeply misconstrued interpretation of a page on the Covered California website.

The shoddy news sleuthing by BreitBrat Pollak turned up a page that informed readers that they did not need to worry if they were “undocumented and want your family to enroll in health insurance. That was the spark that set fire to Pollak’s active imagination. Without wasting any effort on reading further or trying to understand the context, Pollak concluded that this was an attempt to enroll undocumented immigrants in ObamaCare, which the law explicitly prohibits. This is what the very first paragraph on the page actually said:


“According to the laws and implementing regulations, the information provided by individuals for coverage can not be used for purposes other than ensuring the efficient functioning of the insurance market (Covered California) or administration of the program, or to verify certain eligibility determinations including verification of the immigration status of these people.”

If Pollak had the comprehension skills to grasp this, he would have noticed two things: 1) The page is assuring applicants that the information they provide will not be shared with immigration agencies. And 2) That verification of immigration status will be a determinant condition of their eligibility.

The importance of the first item is to reassure people that an application will not result in an investigation or potential deportation. Many Latino families have mixed immigration statuses and they are sensitive to the possibility that their families could be separated. Consequently, they refrain from enrolling in benefits programs like ObamaCare. That means that many people who are actually citizens (i.e. children who were born here, or naturalized adults) would be deprived of services to which they are entitled because of their concern for other family members who may not be documented. This assurance allows them to apply without having to fear unrelated consequences.

The second item should be an assurance to bigots like Pollak that no undocumented immigrants would receive health care benefits under ObamaCare. It is an explicit declaration that citizenship is required for eligibility. And it is what makes Pollak’s assertion that illegal immigrants are being recruited regardless of their eligibility such a blatant lie.

It’s interesting to note that the Fox News Latino website does not have a story on this matter. Fox News Latino often takes positions that sharply contrast with those of the Fox News mothership. It is their way of trying to lure in the fastest growing demographic in the country without alienating them the way Fox News does. Although, there is a story that addresses the administration’s efforts to reach out to Latinos. And in that story they correctly point out the dilemma of mixed immigration status families who worry about separation, saying that “One big issue is that the law requires that those seeking coverage provide the immigration status of members of their household to determine eligibility.” That is what the page on Covered California is there for – to alleviate that concern.

It is remarkably dishonest and unethical to portray the information provided on Covered California as attempting to recruit undocumented immigrants to enroll in ObamaCare. Yet that is precisely what Breitbart and the Fox Nationalists did. And they did this despite the fact that the correct information was plainly in front of them on the same page. Therefore, it can only be assumed that they knew the truth and deliberately chose to ignore and/or distort it. But that’s the one thing that is not surprising about this. That is, in fact, standard operating procedure at Fox News.


http://www.newscorpse.com/ncWP/?p=11518

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« Reply #141 on: February 18, 2014, 05:20:01 PM »

so what you posted was bullshit,right?  like I said breitbart  the onion of the right  Grin
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« Reply #142 on: February 18, 2014, 05:29:08 PM »

so what you posted was bullshit,right?  like I said breitbart  the onion of the right  Grin

I don't know.  Didn't read your story. 
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« Reply #143 on: February 18, 2014, 05:33:40 PM »

I don't know.  Didn't read your story. 

that's what I thought just post shit ,don't bother to find the truth  Roll Eyes  oh it was bullshit  Grin
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« Reply #144 on: February 18, 2014, 05:39:40 PM »

that's what I thought just post shit ,don't bother to find the truth  Roll Eyes  oh it was bullshit  Grin

Not really.  You didn't post a link and I assumed you pulled it from some liberal hack website.  I was right.   Smiley
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« Reply #145 on: February 18, 2014, 05:48:07 PM »

link usually automatically comes up.    right  from  Covered California site but breitbart "Onion" gears it's news for idiots  Cheesy
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« Reply #146 on: February 18, 2014, 05:51:49 PM »

link usually automatically comes up.    right  from  Covered California site but breitbart "Onion" gears it's news for idiots  Cheesy

O Rly?  And what about The Daily Caller and the Examiner? 

http://dailycaller.com/2014/02/18/california-bill-seeks-extend-subsidized-health-care-to-illegal-immigrants/

http://www.examiner.com/article/report-says-obamacare-recruiting-illegal-immigrants-california
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« Reply #147 on: February 18, 2014, 05:57:11 PM »

really doesn't matter were it came from,what you posted was wrong,right? Cheesy           that's right ,both wrong,in such a hurry to shit on the health care they just copy each other
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« Reply #148 on: February 18, 2014, 06:05:25 PM »

really doesn't matter were it came from,what you posted was wrong,right? Cheesy           that's right ,both wrong,in such a hurry to shit on the health care they just copy each other

So now the source doesn't matter?  lol  You claimed it was wrong (likely without reading it), because of the source.

Regarding the substance of the article, doesn't matter which source reports on the information, so long as the information is correct.  Are you saying the website doesn't actually say this?

The Covered California website includes a special page entitled: "No temas si eres indocumentado/a y quieres inscribir a tu familia en un seguro médico" ("Fear not if you are undocumented and want to enroll your family in health insurance"). The website goes on to explain that information shared with Obamacare cannot be shared with Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). It does not explicitly warn that illegal aliens are ineligible.

"According to the laws and implementing regulations," the website says, "the information provided by individuals for coverage can not be used for purposes other than ensuring the efficient functioning of the insurance market ( Covered California) or administration of the program, or to verify certain eligibility determinations including verification of the immigration status of these people."
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« Reply #149 on: February 18, 2014, 06:14:05 PM »

unlike you I did read it

The importance of the first item is to reassure people that an application will not result in an investigation or potential deportation. Many Latino families have mixed immigration statuses and they are sensitive to the possibility that their families could be separated. Consequently, they refrain from enrolling in benefits programs like ObamaCare. That means that many people who are actually citizens (i.e. children who were born here, or naturalized adults) would be deprived of services to which they are entitled because of their concern for other family members who may not be documented. This assurance allows them to apply without having to fear unrelated consequences.

The second item should be an assurance to bigots like Pollak that no undocumented immigrants would receive health care benefits under ObamaCare. It is an explicit declaration that citizenship is required for eligibility. And it is what makes Pollak’s assertion that illegal immigrants are being recruited regardless of their eligibility such a blatant lie.
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