ANY one who believes that these clows are LIFE TIME NATURALS is in TOTAL DENIAL.
Come on seriously??!! Jeff natural?? He competes in mens physique and has won! We know pretty much none I those guys are natural My boy Kevin Perod turned pro in that division last year and has 10X the physique Jeff does and isn't natural Jeff's full of shit! His bio saids he ran the 40 in 4.5 secs http://www.jeffseid.com/#!bio/c66t
They all look more muscular than Perod. Do the math. ALL are on PED.
You said it yourself, your friend has 10 times the physique (I don`t think he looks as good as Jeff Seid though aesthetics wise at all) and is on drugs whereas Jeff is not.Jeff has done football combines and I think that is the time they gave him. He is lifetime Natural. You and Arce are just going to have to deal with it.
Trusting these clowns would make a person a moron
Really? Let's see those results.