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Re: Great Atheist Moment- Wolf Blitzer and Tornado
« Reply #50 on: May 22, 2013, 01:05:38 PM »
  Guess God did not like all of the kids that these twisters killed

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Re: Great Atheist Moment- Wolf Blitzer and Tornado
« Reply #52 on: May 22, 2013, 08:48:13 PM »
Wolf Blitzer is a piece of human feces garbage
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Re: Great Atheist Moment- Wolf Blitzer and Tornado
« Reply #53 on: May 22, 2013, 09:02:07 PM »
You're arguing against a chimp with the IQ of a fried potato. I recommend cutting your losses (in time), lest you give it more fuel for the hateful and hilariously ill-founded brew of ignorance spewing forth from its anus and/or lest you allow some of the stupidity to infect your mind/brain -- a very real danger when interacting with dunces for extended periods.
 


Coach appears all around to be a good guy, but boy, is he blind when it comes to religion.

I cannot believe he actually made child abuse into a liberal agenda (more indirectly). He makes everything into a liberal agenda. I am not a die hard liberal by any means, but what does liberalism have to do with child abuse? People of all sorts of backgrounds abuse children. This just goes to show that Coach is 100% fixated on the liberal-conservative debate. Its really sad.
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Re: Great Atheist Moment- Wolf Blitzer and Tornado
« Reply #54 on: May 22, 2013, 09:11:02 PM »
http://web.med.harvard.edu/sites/RELEASES/html/3_31STEP.html




There is a difference. Did prayer make them feel better and aid them in recovery? Sure, I can agree that prayer makes people feel better and aids in recovery. But so do a lot of other things such as meditation, mindfulness, deep breathing, etc. The fact that prayer makes people feel better and helps them with recovery is no surprise. Knowing that someone is praying for you is a form of social support. Research has also shown that women with breast cancer,  who attend support groups, on average, live 2 years longer compared to those women who do not attend support groups. Thus, the fact that you know someone is praying for you is a form of social support, and social support is needed when medically ill.

The real question is can prayer cure incurable diseases, which has been a claimed many times. Studies have shown that when people pray for people who have incurable diseases, there are no effects in terms of the illness magically disappearing. Plain and simple, prayer does not work when you take chance out of the equation. The fact of the matter is that when people choose prayer over medicine, especially when it comes to diseases, guess what? They die! Prayer does not work when it comes to curing people. It may aid in recovery, but that is much different than curing something with only prayer.
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Re: Great Atheist Moment- Wolf Blitzer and Tornado
« Reply #55 on: May 22, 2013, 09:28:00 PM »
Athiests make no sense. The whole universe and everything It happens by chance?

If I throw a empty bottle into the air+ a cap+ some water, your saying by chance the bottle will be filled and the cap screwed on tight? If its impossible for that to happen, how can you claim everything came into exsistance by chance?

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Re: Great Atheist Moment- Wolf Blitzer and Tornado
« Reply #56 on: May 22, 2013, 09:32:23 PM »
Athiests make no sense. The whole universe and everything It happens by chance?

If I throw a empty bottle into the air+ a cap+ some water, your saying by chance the bottle will be filled and the cap screwed on tight? If its impossible for that to happen, how can you claim everything came into exsistance by chance?


Yes, bc it makes more sense that some benevolent being who created the universe, watches over your every move, cares if you masturbate or eat shellfish,  and will send you to the pits of hell if you do not worship him.

Yes, this makes so much more sense. ::) ::)
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Re: Great Atheist Moment- Wolf Blitzer and Tornado
« Reply #57 on: May 22, 2013, 09:33:31 PM »
If i recall, Hitchens died young, a slow painful death i believe.
Bro as a fellow Christian you should not think this way. Him dying like that has nothing to do with it.

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Re: Great Atheist Moment- Wolf Blitzer and Tornado
« Reply #58 on: May 22, 2013, 09:36:42 PM »
Bro as a fellow Christian you should not think this way. Him dying like that has nothing to do with it.


Its Coach. Just read it and laugh :)

Sorry Coach!  ;D
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Re: Great Atheist Moment- Wolf Blitzer and Tornado
« Reply #59 on: May 22, 2013, 10:00:04 PM »


Yes, bc it makes more sense that some benevolent being who created the universe, watches over your every move, cares if you masturbate or eat shellfish,  and will send you to the pits of hell if you do not worship him.

Yes, this makes so much more sense. ::) ::)
Who says he watches over your every move? Will you conceded that there could be a creator that created you, your parents, the water you drink and everything that exists without being personally involved in your day to day activities? I think a powerful being that created randomness in the Universe would want life to be random itself. A scripted life where everything is according to a rigid plan is not really life is it? It's kind of similar to trying to create artificial intelligence in computers. Current computer still follow a scripted path. Life would be like computers if everything followed a scripted path from God.

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Re: Great Atheist Moment- Wolf Blitzer and Tornado
« Reply #60 on: May 22, 2013, 10:03:05 PM »
Who says he watches over your every move? Will you conceded that there could be a creator that created you, your parents, the water you drink and everything that exists without being personally involved in your day to day activities? I think a powerful being that created randomness in the Universe would want life to be random itself. A scripted life where everything is according to a rigid plan is not really life is it? It's kind of similar to trying to create artificial intelligence in computers. Current computer still follow a scripted path. Life would be like computers if everything followed a scripted path from God.
 

Well, you're talking about Deism (as I am sure you know)

I would need evidence that a creator created everything. The bible does not count as evidence, and just saying, "how can something come from nothing" or "something had to create the universe" is not evidence.
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Re: Great Atheist Moment- Wolf Blitzer and Tornado
« Reply #61 on: May 22, 2013, 10:48:02 PM »
 

Well, you're talking about Deism (as I am sure you know)

I would need evidence that a creator created everything. The bible does not count as evidence, and just g, "how can something comefrom nothing" or "something had to create the universe" is not evidence.

Too many things that cannot be explained that shows there had to be a Creator.

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Re: Great Atheist Moment- Wolf Blitzer and Tornado
« Reply #62 on: May 22, 2013, 10:56:35 PM »
Too many things that cannot be explained that show there wasn't.a Creator
 

Horrible argument. It is called "God of the Gaps" When there is a gap in scientific literature, you just replace it with a "Creator." Just because something cannot be explained, you cannot jump to the conclusion that it was due to a creator. Worst argument EVER!!

The term God-of-the-gaps fallacy can refer to a position that assumes an act of God as the explanation for an unknown phenomenon, which is a variant of an argument from ignorance fallacy.[9][10] Such an argument is sometimes reduced to the following form:

        There is a gap in understanding of some aspect of the natural world.
        Therefore the cause must be supernatural.

One example of such an argument, which uses God as an explanation of one of the current gaps in biological science, is as follows: "Because current science can't figure out exactly how life started, it must be God who caused life to start." Critics of intelligent design creationism, for example, have accused proponents of using this basic type of argument.[11]

God-of-the-gaps arguments have been discouraged by some theologians who assert that such arguments tend to relegate God to the leftovers of science: as scientific knowledge increases, the dominion of God decreases.


haha, even some theologians dislike this argument, and you go and use it! lol
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Re: Great Atheist Moment- Wolf Blitzer and Tornado
« Reply #63 on: May 22, 2013, 11:00:54 PM »
Yawn. Open your eyes college boy and use some commonsense. Look around at some of the unexplainable things. Lol.

BTW, don't cut and paste without a source.

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Re: Great Atheist Moment- Wolf Blitzer and Tornado
« Reply #64 on: May 22, 2013, 11:02:33 PM »
You atheists try so hard. loop

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Re: Great Atheist Moment- Wolf Blitzer and Tornado
« Reply #65 on: May 22, 2013, 11:03:29 PM »
Yawn. Open your eyes college boy and use some commonsense. Look around at some of the unexplainable things. Lol.

BTW, don't cut and paste without a source.

 

It is a logical fallacy to assume because something cant be explained that God did it.

Hundreds of years ago we did not know many things and came to understand them.

It is 100% pure ignorance to just say, "God did it" because it cannot be explained. This sort of thinking is dumb and irrational, and no one should ever think like this. It is a horrible way of viewing the world just to assume something was created by something because it cannot be explained. Use your brain instead of just saying, "we dont know how it got here, therefore a creator did it." Yes, great way to engage in critical thinking. Great way to use your brain. College or not, this is just plain stupid!

You theists try to so hard but always fail short because you have no evidence. Your evidence is, "we cant explain it, so a creator did it."

Wonderful! Great way to critically think about a topic. So stupid.
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Re: Great Atheist Moment- Wolf Blitzer and Tornado
« Reply #66 on: May 22, 2013, 11:05:23 PM »
Damn liberals purposely brainwashed Coach to a 4th grade reading level....  :-*

Liberalism is what fucked up this country. BTW, good to see you switched gimmicks.

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Re: Great Atheist Moment- Wolf Blitzer and Tornado
« Reply #67 on: May 22, 2013, 11:07:57 PM »
In a better place than where Hitchens is.
Is Hitchens' body stashed in your gym?

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Re: Great Atheist Moment- Wolf Blitzer and Tornado
« Reply #68 on: May 22, 2013, 11:08:11 PM »
 

It is a logical fallacy to assume because something cant be explained that God did it.

Hundreds of years ago we did not know many things and came to understand them.

It is 100% pure ignorance to just say, "God did it" because it cannot be explained. This sort of thinking is dumb and irrational, and no one should ever think like this. It is a horrible way of viewing the world just to assume something was created by something because it cannot be explained. Use your brain instead of just saying, "we dont know how it got here, therefore a creator did it." Yes, great way to engage in critical thinking. Great way to use your brain. College or not, this is just plain stupid!

You theists try to so hard but always fail short because you have no evidence. Your evidence is, "we cant explain it, so a creator did it."

Wonderful! Great way to critically think about a topic. So stupid.

Whatever you say. You believe what you want and I will believe what I want. If you don't like it, tough shit.

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Re: Great Atheist Moment- Wolf Blitzer and Tornado
« Reply #69 on: May 22, 2013, 11:09:06 PM »
Is Hitchens' body stashed in your gym?

I'll never tell.

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Re: Great Atheist Moment- Wolf Blitzer and Tornado
« Reply #70 on: May 22, 2013, 11:09:35 PM »
You atheists try so hard. loop

Everyone is an atheist deep down. Religious people know deep down in their heart of hearts there is no god. If they truly believed they would kill themselves and their families to be with god in heaven.

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Re: Great Atheist Moment- Wolf Blitzer and Tornado
« Reply #71 on: May 22, 2013, 11:10:31 PM »
Whatever you say. You believe what you want and I will believe what I want. If you don't like it, tough shit.


Same goes for you. I mean, its a lot easier to say, "A creator did it" then to actually pick up a lot of books and read them and explore. Just much easier to replace it with a "Creator"

Exactly, tough shit. Same goes for you being stupid, tough shit.  :D :D
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Re: Great Atheist Moment- Wolf Blitzer and Tornado
« Reply #72 on: May 22, 2013, 11:19:51 PM »


Same goes for you. I mean, its a lot easier to say, "A creator did it" then to actually pick up a lot of books and read them and explore. Just much easier to replace it with a "Creator"

Exactly, tough shit. Same goes for you being stupid, tough shit.  :D :D

Are you really that fucking stupid to think there isn't as much science on my side side as there is on yours? Seriously, are youthat fucking pompous ass atheists are amazing in you thinking.  Just because you don't agree with someone else's views means you automatically think you know it all? Really?

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« Reply #73 on: May 22, 2013, 11:22:10 PM »
Are you really that fucking stupid to think there isn't as much science on my side side as there is on yours? Seriously, are youthat fucking pompous ass atheists are amazing in you thinking.  Just because you don't agree with someone else's views means you automatically think you know it all? Really?
 

Okay, go ahead. Show me the evidence.

By the way, where are your studies on prayer working? You said you were going to post them. I await both studies.

lol @ you believing there is as much scientific evidence on your side as there is on my side lol.

By the way, Coach, is this the love, acceptance and tolerance that Jesus was talking about?  :o :o
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Re: Great Atheist Moment- Wolf Blitzer and Tornado
« Reply #74 on: May 22, 2013, 11:29:43 PM »
 

Okay, go ahead. Show me the evidence.

By the way, where are your studies on prayer working? You said you were going to post them. I await both studies.

lol @ you believing there is as much scientific evidence on your side as there is on my side lol.

By the way, Coach, is this the love, acceptance and tolerance that Jesus was talking about?  :o :o

Not against persecution.