Soldier decapitated on london street

[bigmc]

It's Darren's birthday on the 17th January, I might send him some Cell Block H posters, and a Diana Ross CD?

careful dazza is in a high powered job where he tells the police what to do

i believe him because he said it on the internetz

[falco]

Sick Mutha Fuckaz

[Radical Plato]

No, your anarchist doesn't believe in any type of government, you said so earlier.So I ask again if thats your stance why do you keep phoning the police all the time?
In your world they wouldn't exist, so try and get used to not having them around.
Oh and these "deeply enlightened beings" are the type of people who would say "you create your own reality"  

You are simply making things up!  What do you mean ring the police all the time.   I told you, I don't bother with the Police, I rang them recently to prevent a man being killed during an assault that occurred while I was parked down at the local shops around the corner from my place.  Outside of that, I have had nothing to do with the Police for years.  

And currently we don't operate on an anarchistic system, so like anybody I utilise the current system as best I can.  You seem to have taken an exception to the term anarchist.  Far from being some war like environment were everybody is boarding themselves up in fortresses and it is every man for himself.  Anarchism is actually based on creating a fairer and more just system, one where there is an absence of a master, or a sovereign.  In other words, anarchism is a political theory which aims to create a society within which individuals freely co-operate together as equals without the need for hierarchies and power structures. Anarchists see government and other hierarchical social relationships are both harmful and unnecessary: and although impossible to eliminate these things, a well functioning anarchist system offers a better alternative to the current paradigm.

And LOL at suggesting enlightened beings would say things like "You create your own reality".  That type of thinking is the most deluded naive thinking I have encountered for quite some time,  It is based on wishful thinking, not on reality.  The sad truth is, there are far greater forces outside of us that can impact our ability to live happy and healthy lives.  Try as you might to magically manifest your ideal life, there are far greater forces at play that determine how you live your life.  People who believe in such new age nonsense generally live sheltered lives, patting themselves on the back for nothing more than their simple good fortune.  When such nonsense beliefs are applied to the real world, like why would a 7 year old child manifest a crazy gunman coming to their school to shoot them dead, it really does make you question the mindset of someone who would support such obviously false beliefs.  Could it be, like a lot of other overt deluded beliefs, that this belief brings you some comfort, even though it is patently false.

And I got used to not relying on the police after I got a criminal record (a long time ago)  In my case, the Police are more likely to look for reasons to lock me up than to help me out.

[f450]

the rules should be simple and simply enforced.

if you choose to emigrate to another country, you leave all of your culture behind and fully integrate. If you cant do that, you should be kicked out. simple. Stay in your own damn country and enjoy your "special" culture and beliefs or whatever.

why this isn't done, baffles me.

[Radical Plato]

haha, "anarchist".


well, to bad for the anarchists out there that there are plenty of people who want some law and order, theres also many quietly fascist people out there, oh and the religious nutcases, they all dont particularly like anarchists.

everybody wants to be some anarchist in a nation where others have built up and paid for the infrastructure etc.

if you wannna be anarchist, go seek your own island

How is the current system of ensuring law and order working for you?  You assume that an anarchist system doesn't provide order.  The very reason people suggest an anarchist system is for the very reason that it provides greater stability, less harm for the masses and more order.  The problem is, the average person has a primitive idea of what anarchism actually is.  This process of misrepresentation is not without historical parallel. For example, in countries which have considered government by one person (monarchy) necessary, the words "republic" or "democracy" have been used precisely in the same way you are using the word "anarchy," to imply disorder and confusion. Those with a vested interest in preserving the status quo will obviously wish to imply that opposition to the current system cannot work in practice, and that a new form of society will only lead to chaos.

"Change opinion, convince the public that government is not only unnecessary, but extremely harmful, and then the word anarchy, just because it means absence of government, will come to mean for everybody: natural order, unity of human needs and the interests of all, complete freedom within complete solidarity"

While the popular understanding of anarchism is of a violent, anti-State movement, anarchism is a much more subtle and nuanced tradition then a simple opposition to government power. Anarchists oppose the idea that power and domination are necessary for society, and instead advocate more co-operative, anti-hierarchical forms of social, political and economic organisation.  In other words, anarchism is a political theory which aims to create a society within which individuals freely co-operate together as equals. As such anarchism opposes all forms of hierarchical control - be that control by the state or capitalist - as harmful to the individual and their individuality as well as unnecessary.


The current system you support sure does produce a lot of war, chaos and misery.  But like you said, some people prefer that.

[BigCyp]

Galeniko dissecting bad breath dazza's life in 3 posts in this thread haha

[bigmc]

Galeniko dissecting bad breath dazza's life in 3 posts in this thread haha

yes gal has finished jihad boy dazza off for good

[Radical Plato]

man, that woman would have rather died instead of not having her say.

she did something very brave, she basicaly aproached the terrorist and told him come and do me too, fully knowing she would get killed if he wanted to.

she wouldnt have none of this anymore, she didnt care about what you said above.

under pressure and shock, ppl do crazy things.

she has more balls than badboydaza whole family tree

She actually did nothing of the sort.  She had no idea what had just happened, she thought there was an accident and tried to help. It was only in the middle of all this she realised what she had gotten herself into.  She then tried the best she could to deal with the situation.  What appears an act of bravery was nothing more than an a lack of awareness mixed with a desire to help a hurt individual.  

[Tito24]

im not on that photo

so modest

[bigmc]

so modest

sorry bro i forgot 

[Purge_WTF]

"We're the infidels of the EDL and we're coming down the rooooooad."

[Radical Plato]

galeniko, do you want to do me a favour and shut the fuck up for five minutes?

Aren't you the same guy who melted and went back and deleted all his posts, manually ? For fuck's sake you had thousands of posts and you went back, loaded them one by one and deleted them? Knowing how slow getbig is sometimes my guess is you spent at least half a day glued in front of your shitty 100 franc laptop doing this.

And you think you can just come back and be an arrogant, unmitigated cock, just like that?

Why did he delete his posts? Galenicko reminds me of the character from the book/movie American psycho.   

[ukjeff]

While the popular understanding of anarchism is of a violent, anti-State movement, anarchism is a much more subtle and nuanced tradition then a simple opposition to government power. Anarchists oppose the idea that power and domination are necessary for society, and instead advocate more co-operative, anti-hierarchical forms of social, political and economic organisation.  In other words, anarchism is a political theory which aims to create a society within which individuals freely co-operate together as equals. As such anarchism opposes all forms of hierarchical control - be that control by the state or capitalist - as harmful to the individual and their individuality as well as unnecessary.

So what does your Anarchist society (oxymoron granted) do when someone says, "fuck you lot and your rules I'm doing what I want?"
Do you let him do what he likes or do likeminded people band together and stop him, you know, like a government of sorts?  

[Griffith]

Are you saying its impossible to walk through a squatter camp at 2am without being attacked of killed?

What does your common sense tell you?

[ukjeff]

My common sense tells me it's not impossible at all, I suppose they don't all go to bed at 1.55 do they,I also presume that the squatters them selves are walking around without all getting mugged or murdered.

You make it seem as though the probability of being killed/mugged is higher than it not happening, I don't believe that to be the case.

[Radical Plato]

So what does your Anarchist society (oxymoron granted) do when someone says, "fuck you lot and your rules I'm doing what I want?"
Do you let him do what he likes or do likeminded people band together and stop him, you know, like a government of sorts?  

They would be free to do what they want (as long as it didn't cause harm to others).  Under a well functioning anarchist system though, it would be self defeating to go against the grain (so to speak).  Those who co-operated would more than likely be the most successful.  The goal is to eliminate the motivation to harm or hinder others in the first place.  If people are benefiting from a system, they are unlikely to bite the hand that feeds them.

And anarchism doesn't imply utopia.  There would still be problems, but our current system has lots of problems.  The goal of the system is to minimise them or make them less than we have under the current system.  The idea is, if we are going to have to tolerate shit in our lives, the way we do under the current system, well better to endure that shit in a system of near absolute freedom.  Make the shittiness worthwhile.  I am not suggesting anarchy will solve everything, just that it could possibly be a better system than we currently have.

[Griffith]

My common sense tells me it's not impossible at all, I suppose they don't all go to bed at 1.55 do they,I also presume that the squatters them selves are walking around without all getting mugged or murdered.

You make it seem as though the probability of being killed/mugged is higher than it not happening, I don't believe that to be the case.

Not even worth my time.

Next.

[Radical Plato]

My common sense tells me it's not impossible at all, I suppose they don't all go to bed at 1.55 do they,I also presume that the squatters them selves are walking around without all getting mugged or murdered.

You make it seem as though the probability of being killed/mugged is higher than it not happening, I don't believe that to be the case.

I think what he is saying, is that certain situations present greater potential danger and one would be a fool to discount such danger and proceed without caution.  The Darwin Awards are a great testament to such people.

[ukjeff]

They would be free to do what they want (as long as it didn't cause harm to others).

So you want to force your rules on others?

Under a well functioning anarchist system though, it would be self defeating to go against the grain (so to speak).  Those who co-operated would more than likely be the most successful.  The goal is to eliminate the motivation to harm or hinder others in the first place.  If people are benefiting from a system, they are unlikely to bite the hand that feeds them.

Thats pretty much what we have already.

And anarchism doesn't imply utopia.  There would still be problems, but our current system has lots of problems.  The goal of the system is to minimise them or make them less than we have under the current system.  The idea is, if we are going to have to tolerate shit in our lives, the way we do under the current system, well better to endure that shit in a system of near absolute freedom.  Make the shittiness worthwhile.  I am not suggesting anarchy will solve everything, just that it could possibly be a better system than we currently have.

Minimise the problems by reducing the restrictions on what people can and cant do?
News at 11, some people are twats (take the two guys in the OP), in your world we would couldn't do anything until they harmed someone.
Its why there is preventative legislation, its to try and prevent crime, in your world no one can be stopped from doing something until they have harmed someone.

[Tito24]

sorry bro i forgot 

hahaha

[Raymondo]

hey fatherraymondo, i deleted them for good.
there was good entertainment but there was some rahter unfair stuff influencing other ppls lifes, it had to go.

hope this helps

Yeah, I'm sure that was it

[anabolichalo]

post that automatically vanish after some hours would be advisable on g&o

[Radical Plato]

So you want to force your rules on others?Thats pretty much what we have already.Minimise the problems by reducing the restrictions on what people can and cant do?
News at 11, some people are twats (take the two guys in the OP), in your world we would couldn't do anything until they harmed someone.
Its why there is preventative legislation, its to try and prevent crime, in your world no one can be stopped from doing something until they have harmed someone.

You have a very narrow insulated view of the world that makes it near impossible to comprehend.  First, I say that people would be free to do what they like, and you respond with, you want to enforce your rules on others.  I seriously have to question someone who sees offering one freedom as forcing a rule upon them.  This is some of the most bizarre logic you have offered up so far.

And to suggest we already have a co-operative system and people not rebelling against this is absurd.  The current system we have is based on heirachy and competition.  The majority of the people don't benefit from the system (it is elitist, benefiting a tiny minority at the expense of the majority), billions of people barely scrape a living, and because of these overt displays of injustice, inequality and fairness, so called criminal behaviour is manifested, all the way up the scale to full blown war.  I am unsure what world you are living in, but it is hardly co-operative, and it certainly doesn't minimise terrorism or war.  You obviously view the world through your rose colored glasses and your first world prison of comfort and ease.

And what are you talking about minimising what people can and can't do. the very opposite is true.  What an anarchist system does is reduce the motivation to do dumb shit, so people can still do all the dumb shit they have ever done, but under such a system they will not be rewarded for it, and therefore less likely to indulge in such behaviour.

And legislature isn't preventative.  You simply can't prevent people doing dumb shit.  Legislature is a deterrent and a punitive mechanism.  That's it, if it could prevent crime there would already be no such thing.  The goal is to reduce the reasons why people do dumb shit in the first place.  Remove any incentive to act anti social, by changing the system to a fairer less punitive model, based on community and co-operation, this alone will minimise the desire for those to go against it.

[Raymondo]

post that automatically vanish after some hours would be advisable on g&o

Yours would be ideal candidates for such a policy

[Psychopath]

Someone put this E-kul spaz on a leach. He keeps pyramid shitting all over threads.

SON OF A BITCH.