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Muslims behead man in the streets......of London
« on: May 22, 2013, 10:40:16 AM »
Report: British Soldier Beheaded Outside London Barracks

A U.K. lawmaker told reporters Wednesday that a serving British soldier was killed outside of an army barracks in southeast London and two suspects are in custody.

The London Times reported that one of the attackers shouted "Allahu Akhbar" ("God is Great in Arabic) as they attacked the soldier with meat cleavers.

One of the suspects is injured and in the hospital and no other people are being sought, Nick Raynsford, a lawmaker who represents the Greenwich and Woolwich areas of London, said in an interview on Sky News. The incident may have started because of a traffic accident, he said.

“Sadly one patient, a man, was dead,” London’s Ambulance Service said in a statement. “Staff treated two other patients, both men, who were taken to hospital, one of them in serious condition.”

London police said on Twitter they were responding to a “serious incident” on John Wilson Street in the Woolwich area. More than 30 police officers are still at the scene.

The Ambulance Service sent a helicopter, three vans and two officers in cars to the scene after receiving a call at 2:20 p.m., the agency said. They still have staff at the scene, it said.

Raynsford didn’t immediately return a call to his mobile phone.

The Independent Police Complaints Commission is also investigating because officers fired their weapons during the incident, a spokesman for the agency said.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/british-soldier-beheaded/2013/05/22/id/505841?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter


Woolwich: 'Soldier Dead After Terror Attack'


A man reported to be a serving soldier is dead and two people have been shot in Woolwich, south east London, after what Sky sources understand is being treated as a terrorist attack.

Downing Street has called a meeting of the Government's Cobra emergency committee after the incident in John Wilson Street, which David Cameron described as "truly shocking".

Sky sources understand that senior police officers believe the killing was likely to be a politically-motivated Islamist terrorist attack.

Dozens of weapons - including a number of knives - and pools of blood could be seen on the ground, where a man wearing a Help for Heroes T-shirt is said to have been attacked by two men.

Sky sources say that following their attack, witnesses heard the pair chanting "Allahu akbar" - and asking passers-by to take photographs of them.

Armed officers arrived at the scene and opened fire on the two alleged attackers. The men were taken to separate hospitals with gunshot wounds.

The Metropolitan Police confirmed one person had died following the incident and said the Independent Police Complaints Commission had now taken over the investigation.

Photographs taken at the scene show three people lying on the ground. Their condition was not clear. A car that appeared to have crashed could also be seen.

Commander Simon Letchford, from the Met, said officers were called to the road at 2.20pm.

"One man was being assaulted by two other men," he said.

http://news.sky.com/story/1094380/woolwich-soldier-dead-after-terror-attack



The cancer of Islamofascism strikes again. Cue the defenders to say this has nothing to do with Islam. ::)

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Re: Muslims behead man in the streets......of London
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2013, 10:42:36 AM »
Liberal Utopianism at its best.
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Re: Muslims behead man in the streets......of London
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2013, 10:49:11 AM »
sick

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Re: Muslims behead man in the streets......of London
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2013, 11:10:58 AM »
These two believers in the great peaceful religion that is Islam were forced to do these horrid acts by the cruel and violent white Christian inhabitants of England. These two Muslim men were driven by to these acts because they were disenfranchised, endured discrimination, they were subjected to alienation and little acommodation by white Christians! I just think that the U.K. needs to do more out reach out these peaceful Muslim souls, make them more comfortable and try to make them feel welcome.

If not, more peaceful followers of Mohammed will be forced to behead people in the middle of the street. Shame on the U.K., the monsters that they are.

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« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2013, 11:19:28 AM »
These two believers in the great peaceful religion that is Islam were forced to do these horrid acts by the cruel and violent white Christian inhabitants of England. These two Muslim men were driven by to these acts because they were disenfranchised, endured discrimination, they were subjected to alienation and little acommodation by white Christians! I just think that the U.K. needs to do more out reach out these peaceful Muslim souls, make them more comfortable and try to make them feel welcome.

If not, more peaceful followers of Mohammed will be forced to behead people in the middle of the street. Shame on the U.K., the monsters that they are.

translation = their religious beliefs made them crazy (or exacerbated their pre-existing crazy)

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« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2013, 11:29:18 AM »
translation = their religious beliefs made them crazy (or exacerbated their pre-existing crazy)

Do you agree or disagree with this assessment?
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Re: Muslims behead man in the streets......of London
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2013, 11:33:28 AM »
Do you agree or disagree with this assessment?

you're asking if I agree with myself?

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« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2013, 11:35:21 AM »
you're asking is I agree with myself?

The idea that religion is at the very least a contributing factor in violent behavior.
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« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2013, 11:39:31 AM »
The idea that religion is at the very least a contributing factor in violent behavior.

I definitely think religious fundamentalism leads to some people going nuts

pick any religion and you can find examples of this

when your religious belief leads you believe you need to commit acts of violence then your religion has driven you nuts (and for some people I suspect it's a very short drive)

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« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2013, 11:42:37 AM »
I definitely think religious fundamentalism leads to some people going nuts

pick any religion and you can find examples of this

when your religious belief leads you believe you need to commit acts of violence then your religion has driven you nuts (and for some people I suspect it's a very short drive)

So in your estimation it is the individual and his misinterpretation of his religion and not religion itself that is dangerous?
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Re: Muslims behead man in the streets......of London
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2013, 11:42:47 AM »
I definitely think religious fundamentalism leads to some people going nuts

pick any religion and you can find examples of this

when your religious belief leads you believe you need to commit acts of violence then your religion has driven you nuts (and for some people I suspect it's a very short drive)

You really are a sicko  

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« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2013, 11:49:54 AM »
So in your estimation it is the individual and his misinterpretation of his religion and not religion itself that is dangerous?

yes, I don't think religion is inherently dangerous

some people let their religious beliefs drive them insane (or they were already insane before)

For example, some christians believe it's perfectly acceptable to blow up abortion clinic, murder doctors. etc.. and in fact they HAVE to do it due to their religious beliefs.   I think they are nuts and possibly were even nuts before they became Christians or just coincidental to being christian

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Re: Muslims behead man in the streets......of London
« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2013, 11:51:18 AM »
You really are a sicko  

great job not being able to even have one cogent response to anything I wrote

then again, you are a profoundly stupid person who in all likelihood has some true mental and emotional challenges

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« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2013, 11:51:57 AM »
yes, I don't think religion is inherently dangerous

some people let their religious beliefs drive them insane (or they were already insane before)

For example, some christians believe it's perfectly acceptable to blow up abortion clinic, murder doctors. etc.. and in fact they HAVE to do it due to their religious beliefs.   I think they are nuts and possibly were even nuts before they became Christians or just coincidental to being christian


You are as much a threat to this nation as the butchers of alah 

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« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2013, 11:59:52 AM »
yes, I don't think religion is inherently dangerous

some people let their religious beliefs drive them insane (or they were already insane before)

For example, some christians believe it's perfectly acceptable to blow up abortion clinic, murder doctors. etc.. and in fact they HAVE to do it due to their religious beliefs.   I think they are nuts and possibly were even nuts before they became Christians or just coincidental to being christian


It is quite clear that some religious texts encourage murder under certain circumstances.  Whether that religious text also includes a passage or two about loving thy neighbor is only relevant in so far as it demonstrates a inconsistency, hypocrisy and contradiction.   In my opinion, a propensity for violence is inherent in religion itself.
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« Reply #15 on: May 22, 2013, 12:11:37 PM »
It is quite clear that some religious texts encourage murder under certain circumstances.  Whether that religious text also includes a passage or two about loving thy neighbor is only relevant in so far as it demonstrates a inconsistency, hypocrisy and contradiction.   In my opinion, a propensity for violence is inherent in religion itself.

I don't disagree with that point of view

Most people who choose to follow a certain religion find a way to navigate around the bullshit and obviously there are many who don't do that

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« Reply #16 on: May 22, 2013, 12:12:14 PM »
You are as much a threat to this nation as the butchers of alah 

yeah, that make a lot of sense

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Re: Muslims behead man in the streets......of London
« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2013, 12:38:17 PM »
This religion in particular is fucked. Its not really a religion anyway...its a political system wrapped in some mystical elements to explain away the actions of a thieving pedofile. Maybe the brits will finally realize that this multicultural shit has to go. It worked in Holland
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« Reply #18 on: May 22, 2013, 12:44:37 PM »
copied from another forum:
Study shows the more devout a Muslim the more violent he becomes, and the more devout a Christian, the more peaceful he becomes

In this study and presentation shown in the video, it was discovered that the more devout a Muslim becomes, the more violent he becomes.

The opposite, was discovered with Christians. That the more devout a Christian, the more peaceful he becomes.

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Why is this?

A devout Muslim, will more closely follow the examples of their prophet Muhammad. And a devout Christian, will more closely follow the examples of Jesus.

Muhammad vs Jesus

Said Allah hates those who don't accept Islam.
(Qur'an 30:4, 3:32, 22:38)

Said God loves everyone.
(John 3:16)

"I have been commanded to fight
against people till they testify that there
is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad
is the messenger of Allah"
(Muslim 1:33)

"He who lives by the sword
will die by the sword."
(Matthew 26:52)

Stoned women for adultery.
(Muslim 4206)

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."
(John 8:7)

Permitted stealing from unbelievers.
(Bukhari 44:668, Ibn Ishaq 764)

"Thou shalt not steal."
(Matthew 19:18)

Permitted lying.
(Sahih Muslim 6303, Bukhari 49:857)

"Thou shalt not bear false witness."
(Matthew 19:18)

Owned and traded slaves.
(Sahih Muslim 3901)

Neither owned nor traded slaves.

Beheaded 800 Jewish men and boys.
(Sahih Muslim 4390)

Beheaded no one.

Murdered those who insulted him.
(Bukhari 56:369, 4:241)

Preached forgiveness.
(Matthew 18:21-22, 5:38)

"If then anyone transgresses
the prohibition against you,
Transgress ye likewise against him"
(Qur'an 2:194)

"If someone strikes you on the right
cheek, turn to him the other also."
(Matthew 5:39)

Jihad in the way of Allah elevates one's position in Paradise by a hundred fold.
(Muslim 4645)

"Blessed are the peacemakers, for
they will be called Sons of God"
(Matthew 5:9)

Married 13 wives and kept sex slaves.
(Bukhari 5:268, Qur'an 33:50)

Was celibate.

Slept with a 9-year-old child.
(Sahih Muslim 3309, Bukhari 58:236)

Did not have sex with children.

Ordered the murder of women.
(Ibn Ishaq 819, 995)

Never harmed a woman.

"O you who believe! Fight those of the
unbelievers who are near to you
and let them find in you hardness."
(Qur'an 9:123)

"Blessed are the meek, for
they shall inherit the earth."
(Matthew 5:5)

Ordered 65 military campaigns
and raids in his last 10 years.
(Ibn Ishaq )

Ordered no military campaigns, nor
offered any approval of war or violence.

Killed captives taken in battle.
(Ibn Ishaq 451)

Never took captives.
Never killed anyone.

Encouraged his men to rape enslaved women.
(Abu Dawood 2150, Qur'an 4:24)

Never encouraged rape.
Never enslaved women.

Demanded captured slaves and
a fifth of all other loot taken in war.
(Qur'an 8:41)

"The Son of Man came not
to be served, but to serve."
(Matthew 20:28)

Was never tortured, but tortured others.
(Muslim 4131, Ibn Ishaq 436, 595, 734, 764)

Suffered torture, but never tortured anyone.

"And fight them until there is no more persecution and religion is only for Allah"
(Qur'an 8:39)

"Love your enemies and pray
for those who persecute you"
(Matthew 5:44)

Blessed the brutal murder of a half-blind man
(al-Tabari 1440)

Healed a blind man
(Mark 8:28)

Ordered a slave to build the very pulpit
from which he preached Islam.
(Bukhari 47:743)

Washed his disciples feet.
(John 13:5)

What are the Greatest Commandments?
"Belief in Allah and Jihad in His cause"
(Muslim 1:149)

What are the Greatest Commandments?
"Love God and love thy neighbor as thyself."
(Matthew 22:34-40)

Demanded the protection of armed bodyguards, even in a house of worship
(Qur'an 4:102)

Chastised anyone attempting
to defend him with force.
(John 18:10-12)

Died fat and wealthy from what was
taken from others in war or
demanded from others in tribute.

Demanded nothing for himself.
Died without possessions.

Advocated crucifying others.
(Qur'an 5:33, Muslim 16:4131)

Was crucified himself.

According to his followers:
Had others give their lives for him.
(Sahih Muslim 4413)

According to his followers:
Gave his life for others.
(John 18:11 and elsewhere)

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Re: Muslims behead man in the streets......of London
« Reply #19 on: May 22, 2013, 01:01:56 PM »


Hey Loco - a couple of quick questions

who did this so called study and do you think christians who commit acts of violence (such as bombing abortion clinics, killing doctors, etc..) would be surprised to find out they are less devout than their non-violent brethren ?


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« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2013, 01:03:02 PM »
Liberal communists always make excuses for islamic terrorists

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« Reply #21 on: May 22, 2013, 01:14:51 PM »
Hey Loco - a couple of quick questions

who did this so called study and do you think christians who commit acts of violence (such as bombing abortion clinics, killing doctors, etc..) would be surprised to find out they are less devout than their non-violent brethren ?


I can't remember who did "this so called study."  I will have to watch the video again.  Can you dispute the comparison above?

How in the world would I know if these Christians would be surprised to find out that they are less devout than their non-violent brethren?  Find one and ask him yourself, since there are so many of them, according to you.     ::)

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« Reply #22 on: May 22, 2013, 01:18:44 PM »
I can't remember who did "this so called study."  I will have to watch the video again.  Can you dispute the comparison above?

How in the world would I know if these Christians would be surprised to find out that they are less devout than their non-violent brethren?  Find one and ask him yourself, since there are so many of them, according to you.     ::)

you don't know who did the study but you're offering it up as some sort of conclusive proof that Christians become less violent as they become more devout.  That claim seem to contradict reality of the christian fundies who commit acts of violence.


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Re: Muslims behead man in the streets......of London
« Reply #23 on: May 22, 2013, 01:25:25 PM »
see..................... ...WE'RE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT CHRISTIANS. As usual you fucking lib apologists bring that up. Please let me know the last time some snake handling wack job rolled up to FT Campbell and cut off a soldiers' head. Oh yeah...never happened. There was this muslim dude at Fort Hood but that was dismissed as workplace violence.  ::)
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« Reply #24 on: May 22, 2013, 01:26:12 PM »
you don't know who did the study but you're offering it up as some sort of conclusive proof that Christians become less violent as they become more devout.  That claim seem to contradict reality of the christian fundies who commit acts of violence.

The comparison is what I'm offering.  Do you dispute the comparison?  Second time I ask you, but you avoid the question.

How does it "contradict reality of the christian fundies who commit acts of violence."?  Was Jesus Christ a violent man?  Did he teach violence?  Were his disciples violent men?  Did they teach violence?  No.

The Amish are Christians, and they are stuck in the past much like many Muslim communities around the world.  Are the Amish violent?  No.